Thread: Re: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired?
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From: Uwe K. <u....@we...> - 2005-03-16 10:07:18
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Hans F. Nordhaug schrieb am 16.03.05 10:48:37: > > > after hitting the `submit' link on the hidden page > > http://www.miktex.org/packaging.html, > > I end up with a message > > `This tracker has been closed. Please do not submit new items.' > > As I respect the maintainer's wishes, I stop at that point. > > > > Doesn't MiKTeX like package update submissions anymore? > > Nope. The maintainer, Christian Schenck, argues that he can do it > better/faster with scripts and I haven't been able to convince him > otherwise. Thanks for the quick answer. Does this mean that I don't have to carry out any MiKTeX-related action anymore after submitting a package to CTAN? Uwe ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 |
From: Paulo N. de S. <desouza@Math.Berkeley.EDU> - 2005-03-16 17:29:04
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>From mik...@li... Wed Mar 16 01:48:40 2005 >From: "Hans F. Nordhaug" <Han...@hi...> >To: mik...@li... >Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired? > >On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:32:28AM +0100, Uwe Kern wrote: > >Nope. The maintainer, Christian Schenck, argues that he can do it >better/faster with scripts and I haven't been able to convince him >otherwise. > >Hans Can one convince him to update the "tex4ht" package ? It is completely broken in the MikTeX distribution right now! Paulo Ney |
From: Henning H. <los...@mi...> - 2005-03-16 17:59:15
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Paulo Ney de Souza wrotes on march 16, 18:29 > > Can one convince him to update the "tex4ht" package ? It is > completely broken in the MikTeX distribution right now! > That's why I have trouble with tex4ht? When I say tex4ht myfile.tex and myfile.tex is quit a normal document -- with perfect dvi, ps, pdf, than myfile.htm is produced, but there is absolutely no linebreak or paragraph inside the htm-document. No one can read such a document :-( Regards Henning |
From: Paul T. <pa...@wu...> - 2005-03-16 18:11:22
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At 11:28 AM 3/16/2005, you wrote: > >From mik...@li... Wed Mar 16 01:48:40 2005 > >From: "Hans F. Nordhaug" <Han...@hi...> > >To: mik...@li... > >Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired? > > > >On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:32:28AM +0100, Uwe Kern wrote: > > > >Nope. The maintainer, Christian Schenck, argues that he can do it > >better/faster with scripts and I haven't been able to convince him > >otherwise. > > > >Hans > >Can one convince him to update the "tex4ht" package ? It is completely >broken in the MikTeX distribution right now! > >Paulo Ney It is of course easy to update a single package yourself, as I am sure you know. Here is what I would do: 1) Set up a local tree, and inform MikTeX about this during setup or using the MikTeX Update tool. 2) Go to CTAN and download the package. 3) Add the updated version to the local tree. 4) Run the Update Wizard You should then have a package consistent with the most recent version at CTAN, and do not need to depend on the maintainer. >------------------------------------------------------- >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >_______________________________________________ >MiKTeX-Users mailing list >MiK...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users Paul A. Thompson, Ph.D. Division of Biostatistics Washington University School of Medicine 660 S. Euclid, St. Louis, MO 63110 314-747-3793 pa...@wu... |
From: Hans F. N. <Han...@hi...> - 2005-03-16 21:55:15
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 09:28:59AM -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > > >From mik...@li... Wed Mar 16 01:48:40 2005 > >From: "Hans F. Nordhaug" <Han...@hi...> > >To: mik...@li... > >Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired? > > > >On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:32:28AM +0100, Uwe Kern wrote: > > > >Nope. The maintainer, Christian Schenck, argues that he can do it > >better/faster with scripts and I haven't been able to convince him > >otherwise. > > > >Hans > > Can one convince him to update the "tex4ht" package ? It is completely > broken in the MikTeX distribution right now! You can still file a bug report of course - <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=10783&atid=110783> Hans |
From: Paulo N. de S. <desouza@Math.Berkeley.EDU> - 2005-03-16 18:52:37
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Not only that, if you try to use any of the more advanced scripts like "mzlatex" or "xhmlatex" the progarm will crashes and is not even able to find the most simple files in the TeX structure. I have been working with the author for the lastr week or so and yesterday after some 30 changes in the files, executable, etc ... I was able to run a file and get some meaningful results. Paulo Ney de Souza >From mik...@li... Wed Mar 16 10:00:10 2005 >From: "Henning Haida" <los...@mi...> >To: <mik...@li...> >Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired? > >That's why I have trouble with tex4ht? When I say > >tex4ht myfile.tex > >and myfile.tex is quit a normal document -- with perfect dvi, ps, pdf, than >myfile.htm is produced, but there is absolutely no linebreak or paragraph >inside the htm-document. No one can read such a document :-( > >Regards >Henning |
From: Paulo N. de S. <desouza@Math.Berkeley.EDU> - 2005-03-16 19:07:30
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I think you are definitly underestimating the complexity of the installation of "tex4ht". The package is one of the hardest to install in the TeX realm. The documentation is almost non-existing, full of errors, it does not even have release numbers or a Makefile to compile executables. Almost everything has to be done by hand and have to be translated from Unix to Windows by hand, things as simple as "using KPATHSEA" are not default, and have instructions that work on some compilers and not in others, and from there it goes ... By the way, your recipe below fails miserably on item 4, I just tried on a fresh inatallation of MikTeX and it does NOT work. Paulo Ney >From mik...@li... Wed Mar 16 10:16:09 2005 >To: mik...@li... >From: Paul Thompson <pa...@wu...> >Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired? > >It is of course easy to update a single package yourself, >as I am sure you know. > >Here is what I would do: >1) Set up a local tree, and inform MikTeX about this during setup or using >the MikTeX Update tool. >2) Go to CTAN and download the package. >3) Add the updated version to the local tree. >4) Run the Update Wizard > >You should then have a package consistent with the most recent version at >CTAN, and do not need to depend on the maintainer. > >Paul A. Thompson, Ph.D. >Division of Biostatistics >Washington University School of Medicine >660 S. Euclid, St. Louis, MO 63110 >314-747-3793 > >pa...@wu... |
From: Henning H. <los...@mi...> - 2005-03-16 21:28:18
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Paulo Ney de Souza wrotes on wednesday, march 16 > > I think you are definitly underestimating the complexity of > the installation of "tex4ht". The package is one of the > hardest to install in the TeX realm. It's a bit off topic, but perhaps someone has one or two hints: It's quite difficult to install and use 'tex4ht' and 'latex2html' too. For example I was doing the install steps from the latex2html manual step by step -- finally I'm not really able to convert any document. 'tex4ht' makes problems too. I think one thing is, that one needs to give a lot of options to got good results. Does somebody know some good webpages and/or manuals/documentations regarding conversion of LaTeX to html? Best wishes and thanks in advance, Henning PS: I searched google web and groups -- I'm still not satisfied :-( |
From: Philip G. R. <phi...@ti...> - 2005-03-16 22:33:44
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There will probably be a second copy of this as I sent it through an unsubscribed address and it's being held until the moderator gives it the ok. Sorry. > I think you are definitly underestimating the complexity of the > installation > of "tex4ht". The package is one of the hardest to install in the > TeX realm. > The documentation is almost non-existing, full of errors, it does not e= ven > have release numbers or a Makefile to compile executables. Almost > everything > has to be done by hand and have to be translated from Unix to Windows b= y > hand, things as simple as "using KPATHSEA" are not default, and have > instructions that work on some compilers and not in others, and > from there > it goes ... > > By the way, your recipe below fails miserably on item 4, I just > tried on a > fresh inatallation of MikTeX and it does NOT work. There are some very clear and complete instructions here: http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html Cordialmente, Philip G. Ratcliffe _________________________________________ Professor of Nuclear & Subnuclear Physics Dipartimento di Fisica e Matematica Universit=E0 degli Studi dell'Insubria via Valleggio 11 22100 Como (CO) Italy Tel. +39 (031) 238.6231 Fax +39 (031) 238.6119 Cell +39 (340) 2346580 Web http://www.unico.it/~pgr |
From: Philip R. <phi...@em...> - 2005-03-16 20:17:25
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> I think you are definitly underestimating the complexity of the > installation > of "tex4ht". The package is one of the hardest to install in the > TeX realm. > The documentation is almost non-existing, full of errors, it does not e= ven > have release numbers or a Makefile to compile executables. Almost > everything > has to be done by hand and have to be translated from Unix to Windows b= y > hand, things as simple as "using KPATHSEA" are not default, and have > instructions that work on some compilers and not in others, and > from there > it goes ... > > By the way, your recipe below fails miserably on item 4, I just > tried on a > fresh inatallation of MikTeX and it does NOT work. There are some very clear and complete instructions here: http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html Cordialmente, Philip G. Ratcliffe _________________________________________ Professor of Nuclear & Subnuclear Physics Dipartimento di Fisica e Matematica Universit=E0 degli Studi dell'Insubria via Valleggio 11 22100 Como (CO) Italy Tel. +39 (031) 238.6231 Fax +39 (031) 238.6119 Cell +39 (340) 2346580 Web http://www.unico.it/~pgr =0D =0D --=0D Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f=0D =0D Sponsor:=0D Stanco del tappetino mouse che hai??=0D * Stampaci l'immagine che vuoi tu!=0D * =0D Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=3D2117&d=3D16-3 |
From: Paulo N. de S. <desouza@Math.Berkeley.EDU> - 2005-03-17 15:38:44
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These instructions are very old and do NOT work for the new version released 3 weeks ago. These instructions are probably from the times when MikTeX did not contain "tex4ht", this is not the case any longer, a full distribution of tex4ht comes with MikTeX, the only problem is that it is completely broken. Paulo Ney >From mik...@li... Wed Mar 16 23:37:07 2005 >From: "Philip Ratcliffe" <phi...@em...> >To: <mik...@li...> >Subject: RE: [MiKTeX] Package submission undesired? > >There are some very clear and complete instructions here: > > http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html > >Cordialmente, Philip G. Ratcliffe >_________________________________________ > >Professor of Nuclear & Subnuclear Physics >Dipartimento di Fisica e Matematica >Università degli Studi dell'Insubria >via Valleggio 11 >22100 Como (CO) >Italy > >Tel. +39 (031) 238.6231 >Fax +39 (031) 238.6119 >Cell +39 (340) 2346580 >Web http://www.unico.it/~pgr > > > > -- > Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > Stanco del tappetino mouse che hai?? >* Stampaci l'immagine che vuoi tu! >* > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=2117&d=16-3 > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&opÌk >_______________________________________________ >MiKTeX-Users mailing list >MiK...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users > |
From: Philip G. R. <phi...@ti...> - 2005-03-17 18:07:25
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> These instructions are very old and do NOT work for the new version December 2, 2004 is very old? Gosh, what does one have to do to keep up these days? > released 3 weeks ago. These instructions are probably from the times > when MikTeX did not contain "tex4ht", this is not the case any longer, This is actually not the case I used them last year quite successfully wh= en MiKTeX did contain tex4ht but it was not in a usable form or perhaps it w= as, as you prefer, "broken". > a full distribution of tex4ht comes with MikTeX, the only problem is > that it is completely broken. Well, this may be "more" true than before but in any case on the page I mentioned you will find 3.2 TeX4ht * Browse to TeX4ht <http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html>, then: o Under =93Installation=94 click on =93MS Windows=94 (second pa= ragraph). o Under item b. retrieve tex4ht.zip. * Optional: get any current TeX4ht updates. To do this: ... And the link gets Eitan's most up-to-date version (the page source contai= ns the date stamp "2005-02-28 00:13:00" a whole 17 days ago as I write this = so it may now indeed be outdated). I must confess that I haven't followed this procedure in all of perhaps o= ne year, but, as I mentioned above, it all worked well enough way back then. Cordialmente, Philip G. Ratcliffe _________________________________________ Professor of Nuclear & Subnuclear Physics Dipartimento di Fisica e Matematica Universit=E0 degli Studi dell'Insubria via Valleggio 11 22100 Como (CO) Italy Tel. +39 (031) 238.6231 Fax +39 (031) 238.6119 Cell +39 (340) 2346580 Web http://www.unico.it/~pgr |
From: Hans F. N. <Han...@hi...> - 2005-03-16 10:14:56
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 11:07:06AM +0100, Uwe Kern wrote: > Hans F. Nordhaug schrieb am 16.03.05 10:48:37: > > > > > after hitting the `submit' link on the hidden page > > > http://www.miktex.org/packaging.html, > > > I end up with a message > > > `This tracker has been closed. Please do not submit new items.' > > > As I respect the maintainer's wishes, I stop at that point. > > > > > > Doesn't MiKTeX like package update submissions anymore? > > > > Nope. The maintainer, Christian Schenck, argues that he can do it > > better/faster with scripts and I haven't been able to convince him > > otherwise. > > Thanks for the quick answer. > Does this mean that I don't have to carry out any MiKTeX-related > action anymore after submitting a package to CTAN? You never *had* to do any MiKTeX-related actions - the package update submissions system was introduce only to 1) speed up the process for new/update packages 2) handle missing (old) packages im MiKTeX You can safely lean back and take a break :-) Hans |