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incomplete completeness (Six-frame Pfam)

2015-11-13
2015-11-16
  • Dimitri Meier

    Dimitri Meier - 2015-11-13

    Hi Marc,

    came across this issue a while ago, but had no time to post it here.

    With the 3.5 version the completeness values of my bins became extremely low, rarely ever surpassing 50%.
    When I run CheckM with exactly the same marker file, I get 80 - > 90% completeness for the same bins.

    I also noticed, that the longer the contigs get, the lower the completeness. Finally I realized, that there is always only one single-copy gene per contig listed in the contig table. So it seems, that it always only checks the first several (1000 ?) bases.

    However, when I open the same project in Metawatt 3.3 and run the Six-Frame Pfam module, all is fine.

    Have you encountered this issue or heard from anyone else having this?

    Cheers,
    Dimitri

     
    • Marc Strous

      Marc Strous - 2015-11-13

      Hi Dimitry,
      Thanks for investigating this problem! It should not occur if you use
      the hmm profile database supplied with metawatt, at least I cannot
      reproduce the problem with that database. The only possibility I can see
      at the moment is that the problem is related to the hmm database you
      use. Can you point me to a link for that database or send it to me by
      email (mstrous@ucalgary.ca) so that I can investigate?

      Best wishes,
      Marc

      On 11/13/15 01:19, Dimitri Meier wrote:

      Hi Marc,

      came across this issue a while ago, but had no time to post it here.

      With the 3.5 version the completeness values of my bins became
      extremely low, rarely ever surpassing 50%.
      When I run CheckM with exactly the same marker file, I get 80 - > 90%
      completeness for the same bins.

      I also noticed, that the longer the contigs get, the lower the
      completeness. Finally I realized, that there is always only one
      single-copy gene per contig listed in the contig table. So it seems,
      that it always only checks the first several (1000 ?) bases.

      However, when I open the same project in Metawatt 3.3 and run the
      Six-Frame Pfam module, all is fine.

      Have you encountered this issue or heard from anyone else having this?

      Cheers,
      Dimitri


      incomplete completeness (Six-frame Pfam)
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      • Dimitri Meier

        Dimitri Meier - 2015-11-16

        Hi Marc,

        the database I use is just the one generated by Metawatt during the database update module.

        As i said, the Metawatt 3.3 uses the very same database (I just have one databases folder) and performs fine. Also when I give the very same hmm-profile from MetaWatt to CheckM, it shows the correct values.
        Could be related to the HMMer output and how metawatt is reading it out? I'm using Hmmer 3.1b1.

        Anyhow, I sent you an e-mail with my hmm database.

        Cheers,
        Dimitri

         

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