[Mentalunix-developers] Re: Mentalunix-developers digest, Vol 1 #74 - 2 msgs

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ok,  first of all, for the Filesystem stuff.  Sounds
good,  I wasn't trying to follow the FHS completely,
just giving you people a general idea of what I was
thinking.  And as for the scotfree thingy,  great.  I
think we need to establish a development schedule of
some sort.  1st, we need to list out everything that
needs to be done for each release, and get a good spec
paper done that covers the basics of what the distro
will have (excluding apps) and then assign tasks.

Regarding an earlier post from Clinton, we also need
to establish roles or jobs for everyone, or something
along the lines of that.  Clinton expressed a wish to
be simply a Project leader and whatnot (no or very
little coding)..As for me, I'd like to do some coding,
but have very little experience as of the moment, so I
would like a little of everything!!!

So, this is what I feel the next step should be:
Write up a devel schedule (no dates), write up a
simple OS spec paper, and a general white paper or
spec paper.   After we have those done, we should
start on the task listing and assigning.  Can't think
of any other immediate goals at the moment

Dustin
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: Misc MentaLinux stuff (Clinton Ebadi)
>    2. Some stuff I sent to the scotfree-uk people.
> read (Clinton Ebadi)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Clinton Ebadi" <men...@cr...>
> To: men...@li...
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:08:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Mentalunix-developers] Misc MentaLinux
> stuff
> Reply-To:
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> On 30 Jan 2001, at 17:13, Knie Dustin wrote:
> 
> > Ok, i was trying to download helixgnome again
> today,
> > but i didnt get very far.  So, I decided i was
> gonna
> > use blackbox instead.  But It wasn't installed. 
> So, i
> > thought xfce.  Didn't have that either!
> > 
> > So, i went and dled, them, and im running xfce
> right
> > now, and I must say, it kicks ass.  
> > 
> > Also, i was hangin out in the Yahoo linux chat
> room
> > earlier, and someone was having probs with a
> cd-writer
> > install under linux, and someone mentioned the
> idea of
> > creating a cd-burner distro!    So, as a simple
> > suggestion, lets add a cdburner workstation type
> > install option or two as well as the other
> options.
> > 
> > As for the other stuff that i mentioned earlier. 
> > Heres a starter:
> > 
> > /etc => system wide config stuff.  
> > /etc/X11 => X11 config stuff
> > /etc/network => network config files
> > /etc/apache => apache config stuff
> > /etc/users => just an idea for something!
> > /var/log => log files
> > /var/lock => lock files (display, consoles, modem,
> > etc)
> > /var/cache =>similar to /tmp but for other reasons
> the cache directory is used for temporary files that
> you might want 
> to keep after a reboot(/tmp is for files you don't
> need to keep after 
> your applicaton exits -- apt uses /var/cache/apt for
> its package 
> cache and stuff)
> > /tmp => system wide temp dir
> > /usr => system dependent files (think something
> like
> > the windows system directory)
> > /usr/local => local app location (think windows
> > program files directory)
> > /usr/bin => system wide user apps
> > /bin => system wide apps and startup stuff.  (text
> > editors, stuff like that)
> /bin is only for your shells and programs the system
> needs to boot. 
> But, including a small text editor like nano there
> is also a good 
> idea(for when your system dies, and you need to edit
> a config file to 
> be able to get something running)
> > /sbin => system admin apps
> > /usr/sbin => user admin apps
> > /usr/local/bin => app executables (self
> explanitory!)
> > /usr/X11 => link to /usr/X11R6 or whatever
> > /usr/X11XX => base X directory
> > /usr/local/games => games 
> This is non-FHS compliant! /usr/local/bin/games
> should be IIRC
> > /usr/share/docs =>system wide docs (howto's, man
> > pages, etc)
> > /usr/share/docs/man => see above
> > /usr/share/docs/howto => see above
> > /var/config => system wide program config files
> > (system wide netscape config file, XF86Config back
> up,
> > etc)
> again, this is non FHS compliant. All config files
> go into /etc/
> > /var/mpkg => location of mpkg database
> Sorry, this is also non-FHS compliant. /etc/mpkg/
> should be used for 
> this
> > /opt => other option apps (kde, gnome, other
> > windowmanagers, etc) 
> > /opt/wm => windowmanager dir (use this for kde,
> gnome
> > and stuff instead of simply /opt)
> > /opt/Audio => dir to stick audio stuff in
> > /usr/share/sounds => system sounds
> > /opt/Video => similar to /opt/Audio, for video
> stuff
> > 
> > 
> for the /opt stuff, they should be symlinks to the
> files in /usr/bin 
> and /usr/local/bin that mpkg installs. Why? Well,
> you do want the 
> files to be in the users path. Also,
> /opt/mpkg/packages/pkg_name will 
> contain a virtual file system for each package(just
> symlinks to the 
> actual files). Or, this could be reversed(and
> /usr/bin contain the 
> symlinks). But if /opt is on its own partition, and
> you can't mount 
> it..ouch.
> > thats a basic beginning.  Not sure how much
> follows
> > the FHS and stuff, and there are some new things
> there
> > too.  the /opt/Audio and Video dirs are pointless,
> not
> > suer what they could be used for, just seemed like
> a
> > good idea!  
> > 
> > also, i think we should use debians /etc tree
> (with
> > some minor mods)
> > 
> > Feel free to change, suggestion, comment,
> criticize,
> > etc
> > 
> > 
> > Dustin
> > 
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> Message: 2
> From: "Clinton Ebadi" <men...@cr...>
> To: men...@li...
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:13:44 -0500
> Subject: [Mentalunix-developers] Some stuff I sent
> to the scotfree-uk people. read
> Reply-To:
> men...@li...
> 
> Hello. We had a large delay in starting
> development...
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