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Hmm,  well, I think it would be fun to accomplish this...

Right now I'm using Gentoo, and I must say it kicks ass. 
However, its source, takes a lot of time to compile stuff,
etc, and would be way to time consuming for someone on dial
up, and with a system thats more then a year old, at least
in my opinion.

Also, I am now working with Lycoris, doing customer
service, and order fulfilment.  

As for re-awakening Mentalinux.  Well, sure, what the
heck!!  At the moment, I won't be able to do too much
interms of install and system debugging and stuff, because
I don't have the hard drive space.  But, that should change
in the next few months.  

Now, as for getting stuff like xfree4.2, and kde3.0 ported
to debian, sure.  And finally doing the development we've
thought about in the past would be fun.

Now, for my idea's...

The way I see it, is we can do this too ways.  Mentalinux
like we originally planned, with debian as it's base, and
making it pretty, or use the Mentalinux idea, and make
something like a virtual distribution that would be
distribution independant.  What I mean by that is
developing the installer and all the apps in a way that
could be easily built, and installed on any distro.  In
other words, Mentalinux wouldn't be a debian distro per say
(I'm not saying we abandon that Idea, im saying we don't
stop there), but rather a structure that could be built
over debian, redhat, mdk, gentoo, suse, slackware, or
whatever. How we would do this, im not entirely sure, but
hey, its just an idea right!

In any case, I willing to help out, but between my Gentoo
tweaks, working at Lycoris, and this, I might not be the
fastest developer!!!

And congratz on the net access and stuff!!! I now own too
Athlon XP systems (1 1700+, and 1 1800+) and cable modem...
 Hehe...

Well, I just woke up, have to go fix my car and head to
work, so...

Sounds cool, and I'm gonna help out if it does come
through, even if it doesn't, I'll start working on it!!!

Dustin Knie

--- Clinton Ebadi <unk...@un...> wrote:
> Is anyone still here? I guess mentalinux died because
> there was no
> point--almost every project goal was already done by
> Debian. In my
> ignorance I wanted to start my own distribution, even
> though I lacked
> the skill to do so. So, the project died.
> 
> Now a few things have happened. 
> 
> One: I have finally, after two years of fighting, gotten
> net access on
> my machine. I'm still on a modem, but having net access
> on your main
> machine is a big help to anything you want to do. 
> 
> Two: Debian woody is basically released. The distribution
> is basically
> frozen completely and will be released once the security
> builder system
> is in place. 
> 
> Three: Woody has a few problems
> - Missing important new packages (that are now released
> or will be soon)
>   - KDE 3
>   - GNOME 2 (almost out)
>   - Mozilla 1.0 (I think woody has RC1, haven't looked)
>   - XFree86 4.2
>   - Guile 1.6
>   - Mplayer (which just became 100% GPL)
>   - ...
> - The installer is still now user-friendly (no hardware
> detection)
> 
> So, why am I posting this? As the subject says, I want to
> start the
> Mentalinux project again. I think starting work on stuff
> like virtual
> kernels (which is a good idea and can be done with
> userspace linux) at a
> later date would be a good idea still (e.g. vk could
> handle the creation
> of writable section in the image and other stuff I've
> been thinking
> about for the last year). But right now I think that a
> re-awaked
> mentalinux should do a few things:
> 
> 1. Use the bf2.4.18 woody install disks and create a new
> install disk
> that uses pgi (Progeny Graphical Installer)
> 2. After woody is released open an apt source that
> contains important
> packages like KDE 3 and Xfree86 4.2 recompiled for woody
> 3. Customize the default configurations for things like
> KDE and
> Windowmaker to be slightly nicer
> 4. Write pgi configlets to do things like set up scsi
> emulation for
> cdrecording
> 5. Start work on the mentalinux programs like vk
> 
> Basically just tweak Debian to make it slightly nicer.
> Contributing all
> of our changes (except for the updated packages because
> those would
> already be in unstable) back to Debian would be a good
> idea too.
> 
> So, does anyone want to start work on the distribution
> again? I'll start
> on the install disks soon if anyone wants to help with
> the rest.
> 
> -- 
> unknown_lamer (not at home)
> 
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