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#3993 Clan Partial Wing weight is wrong

stable 0.38
closed
Hammer
None
fixed
1
2014-01-26
2014-01-17
foij
No

Building the Ostscout IIC from XTR Boondoggles.
According to the XTR, the Clan Partial Wing weighs 2.0 tons.
TacOps states that the weight of a clan partial wing for a mech is total tonnage/20, so the 35 ton ostscout would have a partial wing weight of 1.75-->2 tons. SSW correctly computes the weight of the wing at 2.0 tons as well.

MM (through the verifier) and MMLab incorrectly have the weight of the partial wing at 2.5 tons.

Discussion

  • foij

    foij - 2014-01-18

    Also applies to the Cougar-XR.
    35 ton mech with clan partial wing

     
  • Nicholas Walczak

    Could you attach the files you are using? If the tech level of the unit is set properly the partial wing weight should be correct. The Cougar-XR in MM has the correct partial wing weight (although it's missing a jump jet in each leg, which I will fix).

     
  • foij

    foij - 2014-01-19

    these are hand built files, then verified using MML 0.1.24-dev-r1282

     
  • foij

    foij - 2014-01-19

    and the cougar

     
  • Nicholas Walczak

    The issue is the intro date. The current data for MM has the Clan partial wing intro date as 3071, so the tech level for the partial wing prior to 3071 is Unknown, and the way the code is written, this leads to the IS weight being used.

    For now, if the creation year of the unit is 3071 or higher, it works. I'm going to talk to hammer about making sure the intro dates are correct.

     
  • Hammer

    Hammer - 2014-01-19

    I've changed the dates for wings to match the RD start dates.

     
  • Nicholas Walczak

    • assigned_to: Hammer
    • Resolution: none --> accepted
    • Milestone: undetermined --> stable 0.38
     
  • foij

    foij - 2014-01-20

    I didn't even think about tech intro dates. I'll be sure to look out for it in the future, thanks!

     
    • Nicholas Walczak

      It's not that particularly intuitive... The check is something like: is clan? clan weight, else IS weight. The issue is, if you set a date before the introduction date, you get tech level unknown, which isn't a clan tech, so you get the IS weight.

       
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous - 2014-01-20

    I think it should be something like:

    is clan or is IS, whats the weight, oh...the date is wrong...then use first date and clan or IS (whichever fits) weight

     
    • Nicholas Walczak

      Yea, the "(whicever fits) weight" part isn't really as easy as it sounds. It's a nice idea, but it's not really worth implementing.

      An easier solution would be to have the verifier inform the user that the unit has unknown tech equipment on it.

       
  • Nicholas Walczak

    Hammer updated the dates for partial wings, so the units mentioned in this ticket should have proper partial wing weights at their official build years.

     
  • Nicholas Walczak

    • Resolution: accepted --> fixed
     
  • Dylan Myers

    Dylan Myers - 2014-01-26
    • Status: open --> closed
     

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