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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-08-20 07:23:13
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Hi, Following an email conversation with Michael Lauzon last week I offered to register & host the inceptionos.org domain. This has now been completed. I've setup hosting on one of my servers, with a 10mbit connection. So - where do we go from here? HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ One distinguishing characteristic of BOFHen is attention deficit disorder. Put me in front of something boring and I can find a near-infinite number of really creative ways to bugger off. |
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From: Enrico K. <ph...@h0...> - 2002-08-20 07:34:28
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Hi , ok i think thats a fine place.. but what do u want to host instead a redirect to sf? We have all, mailinglist, space, shells,, and the best is that All Developer have access to the files not only a few persons. In some cases i prefer the outside sf hosting (i dont like sf so much). But we need resources, the package team has about 10GB of packages, we need a "fast" ftp for this. Have you traffic limits on your host? I connect a server direct for ftp use next week but i have problems with the harddisk capacities *need harddisk* ;) I would say, setup mailinglist, cvs, ftp and give some people or all developers access. and we should move.. what do you mean kelledin? I am only a little developer, no maintainer its your right ;) enrico On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Terry Churchill wrote: > Hi, > > Following an email conversation with Michael Lauzon last week I > offered to register & host the inceptionos.org domain. > > This has now been completed. I've setup hosting on one of > my servers, with a 10mbit connection. > > So - where do we go from here? > > HTH > -- > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ > > One distinguishing characteristic of BOFHen is attention deficit disorder. > Put me in front of something boring and I can find a near-infinite number > of really creative ways to bugger off. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-08-20 08:05:15
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Enrico Kern <ph...@h0...> Said: > ok i think thats a fine place.. but what do u want to host instead a > redirect to sf? We have all, mailinglist, space, shells,, and the best is > that All Developer have access to the files not only a few persons. In > some cases i prefer the outside sf hosting (i dont like sf so much). But > we need resources, the package team has about 10GB of packages, we need a > "fast" ftp for this. Have you traffic limits on your host? I connect a > server direct for ftp use next week but i have problems with the harddisk > capacities *need harddisk* ;) The machine inceptionos.org points to at the moment has 26 gig free, with another 20 avaliable elsewhere, so space isn't an issue TBH. There's no traffic limits. FYI - it's actually a Cobalt RaQ 4r. > I would say, setup mailinglist, cvs, ftp and give some people or all > developers access. and we should move.. what do you mean kelledin? I am > only a little developer, no maintainer its your right ;) There'll be no problems setting up any of the above, but I'll leave the discussion open for a while before doing so... -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ If it doesn't work, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-08-20 08:29:45
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On Tuesday 20 August 2002 02:34 am, Enrico Kern wrote: > ok i think thats a fine place.. but what do u want to host > instead a redirect to sf? We have all, mailinglist, space, > shells,, and the best is that All Developer have access to the > files not only a few persons. In some cases i prefer the > outside sf hosting (i dont like sf so much). But we need > resources, the package team has about 10GB of packages, we > need a "fast" ftp for this. Have you traffic limits on your > host? I connect a server direct for ftp use next week but i > have problems with the harddisk capacities *need harddisk* ;) Oh btw, I cleaned up the package archive (basically backed up and=20 removed old, obsolete package revisions). Space consumption is=20 now down to a much leaner 3 GB. :D > I would say, setup mailinglist, cvs, ftp and give some people > or all developers access. and we should move.. what do you > mean kelledin? I am only a little developer, no maintainer its > your right ;) HTTP: I like the idea of moving the main site to a dedicated=20 domain. inceptionos.org sounds good. If nothing else, the=20 maxlinux.sourceforge.net webhosting can just be used as a=20 mirror. CVS: I say we keep CVS on SourceForge. A great many of us (such=20 as yours truly) already have developer accounts on SourceForge,=20 and it seems to be doing all right. FTP: The FTP archive should go to whoever can provide the most=20 bandwidth (as well as sufficient disk space). It will be the=20 biggest load on our bandwidth, because of its sheer size. =20 SourceForge will *not* allow us to take up that much disk space=20 on their servers! The FTP server should be capable of holding the package set for=20 each release of the distro, as well as current work-in-progress=20 packages (i.e. what I'm hosting on ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/ ). =20 It should also be capable of holding ISO images of each release. Mailing-list: hmmm...so far, SourceForge is doing pretty well for=20 this. I say stick with it, and keep some load off our servers. --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-08-20 08:38:42
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Kelledin <kel...@sk...> Said: > On Tuesday 20 August 2002 02:34 am, Enrico Kern wrote: > Oh btw, I cleaned up the package archive (basically backed up and > removed old, obsolete package revisions). Space consumption is > now down to a much leaner 3 GB. :D :) > HTTP: I like the idea of moving the main site to a dedicated > domain. inceptionos.org sounds good. If nothing else, the > maxlinux.sourceforge.net webhosting can just be used as a > mirror. OK - Sounds good to me. Who needs access? A list of web developers along with email addresses & required username would be good. > CVS: I say we keep CVS on SourceForge. A great many of us (such > as yours truly) already have developer accounts on SourceForge, > and it seems to be doing all right. I agree, Sourceforge do some Nice_Things[tm] with CVS :) > FTP: The FTP archive should go to whoever can provide the most > bandwidth (as well as sufficient disk space). It will be the > biggest load on our bandwidth, because of its sheer size. > SourceForge will *not* allow us to take up that much disk space > on their servers! > The FTP server should be capable of holding the package set for > each release of the distro, as well as current work-in-progress > packages (i.e. what I'm hosting on ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/ ). > It should also be capable of holding ISO images of each release. OK, as I've said in other mails, this host has 26gig ATM & a 10mbit connection, if you think this will suffice & don't have any better offers I'd be pleased to donate it ;-) > Mailing-list: hmmm...so far, SourceForge is doing pretty well for > this. I say stick with it, and keep some load off our servers. Agreed. OK, one last thing, could someone add me to the list of developers on Sourceforge? (Doc_Linux). Since I'm new to this project do we have a list of what needs doing? I'm willing to write documentation (using Docbook) if it needs doing - I'm not really a coder ;-) -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. |
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From: Enrico K. <ph...@h0...> - 2002-08-20 08:55:01
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RE ;) On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Terry Churchill wrote: > OK - Sounds good to me. Who needs access? A list of web developers > along with email addresses & required username would be good. Enrico Kern, ph...@h0... if shellaccess possible on a Cobalt? i preffer direct edit with vi ;) > OK, one last thing, could someone add me to the list of developers on > Sourceforge? (Doc_Linux). Since I'm new to this project do we have > a list of what needs doing? I'm willing to write documentation (using > Docbook) if it needs doing - I'm not really a coder ;-) Kelledin can arrange this i think. Hmm i think there are many tasks. As i say, i work on the installation interface, but this takes time (compile, package, testing, compile package, testing ;)) But i can show you some screenshots if you want Enrico |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-08-20 08:57:49
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Enrico Kern <ph...@h0...> Said: > Enrico Kern, ph...@h0... > > if shellaccess possible on a Cobalt? i preffer direct edit with vi ;) It is - details to follow in private mail shortly. > Kelledin can arrange this i think. Hmm i think there are many tasks. As i > say, i work on the installation interface, but this takes time (compile, > package, testing, compile package, testing ;)) But i can show you some > screenshots if you want Please :) -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ Just my 16.99UKP (My thoughts might have become easier to produce but marketing and branding still cost money) |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-08-20 09:39:14
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On Tuesday 20 August 2002 03:54 am, Enrico Kern wrote: > > OK - Sounds good to me. Who needs access? A list of web > > developers along with email addresses & required username > > would be good. A list of all current developers is avaliable at=20 http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3D21828 Some of the members on that list might be "dead=20 members"--basically people who have left off the project without=20 notifying anyone. Michael and I will need to see what to do=20 about those people...the less people with shell access to the=20 RaQ, the better. I say we have SSH/SFTP set up on the RaQ, with support for=20 ssh2-publickey authentication, and no other authentication. =20 Then, simply tell all developers where to send their SSH public=20 keys if they want access. As far as FTP hosting, it's a good idea to start hosting the=20 archive on the RaQ. If another offer comes along, well, we'll=20 have more mirrors. This never hurts. ;) The archive on skarpsey.dyndns.org will be backed up regularly;=20 I'm planning on the following schedule: 1) Back up everything to tape on a weekly basis. Capacity is not=20 really a problem here; a single tape cartridge holds 20GB=20 uncompressed. 2) Have the package archive backed up to a CD set whenever the=20 RPMS or SRPMS repository approaches 700MB. Good CD-R media is=20 dirt-cheap these days, so this is no problem. If it makes things more convenient, I can probably set up rsync=20 on skarpsey.dyndns.org. > > OK, one last thing, could someone add me to the list of > > developers on Sourceforge? (Doc_Linux). Since I'm new to > > this project do we have a list of what needs doing? I'm > > willing to write documentation (using Docbook) if it needs > > doing - I'm not really a coder ;-) > > Kelledin can arrange this i think. Hmm i think there are many > tasks. As i say, i work on the installation interface, but > this takes time (compile, package, testing, compile package, > testing ;)) But i can show you some screenshots if you want Done. :) Terry, you're listed as a "Doc Writer", which we could=20 certainly use. One of the first things I'll need is a set of=20 documentation for package maintainers (the people who do my=20 primary job)--basically a set of guidelines for how packages=20 should be built. I'm fervently hoping I don't end up being the=20 only package maintainer! I've got a partial rough-draft of the=20 guide in text format; I'll probably post it in a few days for=20 you to convert to DocBook format. We'll also need some sort of end-user manual; we can probably get=20 started on that once Enrico's got some shots of what the install=20 procedure will look like, and how it will behave. Enrico, what's your SourceForge username (or do you have one,=20 yet)? It doesn't look like you're on the developer list, and=20 I'd like to rectify that. --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Enrico K. <ph...@h0...> - 2002-08-20 09:48:34
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Hi, > If it makes things more convenient, I can probably set up rsync > on skarpsey.dyndns.org. hmm.. the problem is the speed of 30kb/s (i got not more) we should use the inceptionos.org host direct for the archive or? i dont know, but you should upload all the stuff so that we need only to upgrade the necessary packages. My sf.net username is "hzeroseven" and i listed in the inceptionOS dev list :) first screenshots: http://h07-server.org/~phantom/iosdev/ But there is a lot todo and still the basic works, timezone etc. will changed later.. the values there (also only GMT) is only for my development. Enrico Enrico |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-08-20 10:29:26
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Kelledin <kel...@sk...> Said: > A list of all current developers is avaliable at > http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=21828 > > Some of the members on that list might be "dead > members"--basically people who have left off the project without > notifying anyone. Michael and I will need to see what to do > about those people...the less people with shell access to the > RaQ, the better. Agreed. > I say we have SSH/SFTP set up on the RaQ, with support for > ssh2-publickey authentication, and no other authentication. > Then, simply tell all developers where to send their SSH public > keys if they want access. Good idea. FYI this host is also used by a few close friends so we may need to leave password access enabled, but only I'll know it & it'll be completely random... I'll set up a webmasters user for those who need access to update webpages. I'll then add the keys of those who need access to this user. > As far as FTP hosting, it's a good idea to start hosting the > archive on the RaQ. If another offer comes along, well, we'll > have more mirrors. This never hurts. ;) Indeed :) How do you want to do it? rsync is fine for now if you want to mail me the details. > The archive on skarpsey.dyndns.org will be backed up regularly; > I'm planning on the following schedule: > > 1) Back up everything to tape on a weekly basis. Capacity is not > really a problem here; a single tape cartridge holds 20GB > uncompressed. > > 2) Have the package archive backed up to a CD set whenever the > RPMS or SRPMS repository approaches 700MB. Good CD-R media is > dirt-cheap these days, so this is no problem. > > If it makes things more convenient, I can probably set up rsync > on skarpsey.dyndns.org. This RaQ will also be backed up around 4am Sunday (GMT) to a tape robot. > Done. :) Terry, you're listed as a "Doc Writer", which we could > certainly use. One of the first things I'll need is a set of > documentation for package maintainers (the people who do my > primary job)--basically a set of guidelines for how packages > should be built. I'm fervently hoping I don't end up being the > only package maintainer! I've got a partial rough-draft of the > guide in text format; I'll probably post it in a few days for > you to convert to DocBook format. OK, I'll work out my plan of attack when I get home (working ATM). > We'll also need some sort of end-user manual; we can probably get > started on that once Enrico's got some shots of what the install > procedure will look like, and how it will behave. Excellent, I'll get on ASAP. I'll try and sort out access for people and other related stuff today, but it does depend on how busy it gets at work... -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ One distinguishing characteristic of BOFHen is attention deficit disorder. Put me in front of something boring and I can find a near-infinite number of really creative ways to bugger off. |
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