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From: Enrico K. <ph...@h0...> - 2002-09-27 14:58:58
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Hi, Sorry but i have currently a few problems in reallife (yes this exists), i have no electricity and could not work on weekend. I uploaded the 0.1-pre Version of the installer: http://www.inceptionos.org/~phantom/devel/ it includes hardware-detection, dhcp tools and more. also great pixmaps for the GUI-Installation. Please read the InceptionOS-Changes.txt more instructions to use the installer follows later sorry. Enrico |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-09-27 06:39:51
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Well, the good news: I got Gnome 2 working (mostly). I just need to do some simple,=20 minor tweaks to my own packaging, aside from Gnome 2's innate=20 poop-on-a-stick-ness. Then maybe I'll fire up gdb and clean=20 some of the metaphorical poop off the metaphorical stick. <sarcasm> I'm liking gnome 2, can't you tell? </sarcasm> The bad news: I seem rather powerless to post the good news on inceptionos.org! Do I need more access rights? Am I missing some link that's=20 right in front of me? TIA, -- Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-09-25 07:02:44
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Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > You probably heard about Bonsai, from the Mozilla project; here is the > little blurb on it -- and from what I read we should also use this > application: Yep... I'll give it a go later today, but the fact that I'm using a Chrooted cvs server may make it a bit tricky - we'll see. I'm hoping to get another box hosted soon - this one'll be running Debian. apt-get makes installing stuff *so* much easier ;-) More news as & when... -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ "Oh, *that*," said Vimes. "I was talking about policing, not alcohol. There's lots of people will help you with the alcohol business, but there's no one out there arranging little meetings where you can stand up and say, 'My name's Sam and I'm a really suspicious bastard.'" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-24 19:52:05
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Terry,
You probably heard about Bonsai, from the Mozilla project; here is the
little blurb on it -- and from what I read we should also use this
application:
BEGIN quote:
Bonsai is tree control.
It is a tool that lets you perform queries on the contents of a CVS
archive; you can: get a list of checkins, see what checkins have been
made by a given person, or on a given CVS branch, or in a particular
time period. It also includes tools for looking at checkin logs (and
comments); doing diffs between various versions of a file; and finding
out which person is responsible for changing a particular line of code
("cvsblame").
END quote;
You can find it at the following URL:
http://www.mozilla.org/bonsai.html
Michael
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:18:12 UT, "Michael Lauzon"
<inc...@my...> said:
> Terry,
>
> Well, as you see...I've just gotten busy as well; I started working
> last Wednesday -- Full-Time, 5 days a week Wed-Sun -- so I'll have
> funds to upgrade my computer.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:55:59 +0100, "Terry Churchill"
> <te...@do...> said:
> > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said:
> > > Last important message to the list was from Enrico, 5 days ago...any
> > > updates to report; besides posting the updates on how near we are
> > > getting to a release please post the similiar info to the web site as
> > > well?! Thanks.
> >
> > Apologies on my part for not having got round to docbooking any docs
> > recently
> > - I've been a bit busy with work & convincing my laptop to run
> > Debian...
> >
> > I expect to be able to get *some* work done over the w/end...
> >
> > --
> > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/
> >
> > Politics and religion are just like software and hardware.
> > They all suck, the documentation is probably incorrect, and all
> > the vendors tell lies.
> >
> --
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-24 16:13:13
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Kelledin, I understand rolling the RPMs is needed, but why don't we get IOS put up on CVS, that way we have a version to lure more Developers/Packages/Etc. to the project, and then when we hav a stable release of 0.1 we create an ISO and put it up on FTP. Terry, Have you installed ViewCVS yet, for those of us who have no idea how to use CVS? Michael On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:04:11 -0500, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > On Friday 20 September 2002 01:55 pm, Terry Churchill wrote: > > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > > > Last important message to the list was from Enrico, 5 days > > > ago...any updates to report; besides posting the updates on > > > how near we are getting to a release please post the > > > similiar info to the web site as well?! Thanks. > > > > Apologies on my part for not having got round to docbooking > > any docs recently - I've been a bit busy with work & > > convincing my laptop to run Debian... > > > > I expect to be able to get *some* work done over the w/end... > > Oh btw...about ftp.inceptionos.org...how often are you rsyncing > to skarpsey.dyndns.org? Mainly, we probably ought to rsync > _everything_ on skarpsey, probably every few days or so. A > simple cron job entry should take care of it. > > I'm currently working on getting gnome-2.0.2 rolled up. Might > take another day or so. > > -- > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does > it still cost four figures to fix?" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- http://fastmail.fm/ - IMAP accessible web-mail |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-23 19:18:29
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Terry, Well, as you see...I've just gotten busy as well; I started working last Wednesday -- Full-Time, 5 days a week Wed-Sun -- so I'll have funds to upgrade my computer. Michael On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:55:59 +0100, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > > Last important message to the list was from Enrico, 5 days ago...any > > updates to report; besides posting the updates on how near we are > > getting to a release please post the similiar info to the web site as > > well?! Thanks. > > Apologies on my part for not having got round to docbooking any docs > recently > - I've been a bit busy with work & convincing my laptop to run > Debian... > > I expect to be able to get *some* work done over the w/end... > > -- > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ > > Politics and religion are just like software and hardware. > They all suck, the documentation is probably incorrect, and all > the vendors tell lies. > -- http://fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-09-20 20:32:52
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Kelledin <kel...@sk...> Said: > Oh btw...about ftp.inceptionos.org...how often are you rsyncing > to skarpsey.dyndns.org? Mainly, we probably ought to rsync > _everything_ on skarpsey, probably every few days or so. A > simple cron job entry should take care of it. TBH, I'm not at the moment. It's another thing on my long list of things to do... > I'm currently working on getting gnome-2.0.2 rolled up. Might > take another day or so. Cool :) -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ "Instructions are only for people who don't know what they're doing." --Bob the Builder |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-09-20 20:06:50
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On Friday 20 September 2002 01:55 pm, Terry Churchill wrote: > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > > Last important message to the list was from Enrico, 5 days > > ago...any updates to report; besides posting the updates on > > how near we are getting to a release please post the > > similiar info to the web site as well?! Thanks. > > Apologies on my part for not having got round to docbooking > any docs recently - I've been a bit busy with work & > convincing my laptop to run Debian... > > I expect to be able to get *some* work done over the w/end... Oh btw...about ftp.inceptionos.org...how often are you rsyncing to skarpsey.dyndns.org? Mainly, we probably ought to rsync _everything_ on skarpsey, probably every few days or so. A=20 simple cron job entry should take care of it. I'm currently working on getting gnome-2.0.2 rolled up. Might take another day or so. -- Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-09-20 18:56:11
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Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > Last important message to the list was from Enrico, 5 days ago...any > updates to report; besides posting the updates on how near we are > getting to a release please post the similiar info to the web site as > well?! Thanks. Apologies on my part for not having got round to docbooking any docs recently - I've been a bit busy with work & convincing my laptop to run Debian... I expect to be able to get *some* work done over the w/end... -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ Politics and religion are just like software and hardware. They all suck, the documentation is probably incorrect, and all the vendors tell lies. |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-20 13:41:24
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Last important message to the list was from Enrico, 5 days ago...any updates to report; besides posting the updates on how near we are getting to a release please post the similiar info to the web site as well?! Thanks. -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... -- http://fastmail.fm/ - Access your email with Outlook or over the web |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-17 17:02:09
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Here's an idea! Can we please keep the general public up-to-date by posting news of the progress of IOS on the web site -- and reiterate that we are looking for Developers, etc. -- that way we will be keeping everyone up-to-date as I said before on the progress of the project and when they should expect a release of v0.1 and so on; I am asking all of us to do this as it would be very helpful. Thanks. -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... -- http://fastmail.fm/ - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-16 14:14:29
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Enrico, That is good to hear! Also, I think once we have the source as well as our first release of IOS, we'll get a lot more Developers, as that is my take on things at the moment; they want to see what we release first. Does anyone else get this impression? Michael On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:55:51 +0200 (MEST), "Enrico Kern" <ph...@h0...> said: > Hi guys, > > 23:55 and i am currently in office (berlin), > > when i back home i finish the ISO of 0.1 and do some > last improvements and feature-enhancements to the installer. > > I think its ready until 26.09 or 27.09 ... > > > Enrico > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel > -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... -- http://fastmail.fm/ - A fast, anti-spam email service. |
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From: Enrico K. <ph...@h0...> - 2002-09-15 21:55:59
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Hi guys, 23:55 and i am currently in office (berlin), when i back home i finish the ISO of 0.1 and do some last improvements and feature-enhancements to the installer. I think its ready until 26.09 or 27.09 ... Enrico |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-09-14 19:35:55
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First release of initrd-tools is at=20 ftp://skarpsey.dyndns.org/incept/SOURCES/initrd-toos-0.1.tar.gz This includes the source code for a customized binary for the=20 initrd's /sbin/init, plus a bash script that constructs an=20 initrd image from a set of InceptionOS driver packs. Should be=20 stuck in CVS at the earliest convenience. The biggest worry I have right now is making sure the "real" root FS has a temporary "holding directory" for the initrd filesystem (currently /initrd). This is rather necessary when using the pivot_root() syscall, and the only way I know to make sure it exists is to have it created from within the initrd.=20 That requires mounting the "real" root FS read-write first, before it even gets an fsck--and this seems Just Plain Wrong(tm) to me. -- Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-09-14 08:35:25
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Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > Not sure how to access CVS, as I have never used it in my life. > Anyeverhow.... We should use "ViewCVS" which is a frontend to CVS that > you can browse it on the Web. KDE uses it, and it can be found at the > following URL: > > http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/ Yeah - I use viewcvs for our repos @ work. I'll install it shortly. > Just thought that we may want to use it as well. Also, has anyone > started putting files of IOS into the CVS tree yet? Only me :) -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-09-14 05:29:37
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First release of initrd-tools. This includes the source code for=20 a customized binary for the initrd's /sbin/init, plus a bash=20 script that constructs an initrd image from a set of InceptionOS=20 driver packs. Should be stuck in CVS at the earliest=20 convenience. The biggest worry I have right now is making sure the "real" root=20 FS has a temporary "holding directory" for the initrd filesystem=20 (currently /initrd). This is rather necessary when using the=20 pivot_root() syscall, and the only way I know to make sure it=20 exists is to have it created from within the initrd. That=20 requires mounting the "real" root FS read-write first, before it=20 even gets an fsck--and this seems Just Plain Wrong(tm) to me. -- Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-13 20:31:42
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Terry, Not sure how to access CVS, as I have never used it in my life.=20 Anyeverhow.... We should use "ViewCVS" which is a frontend to CVS that you can browse it on the Web. KDE uses it, and it can be found at the following URL: http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/ Just thought that we may want to use it as well. Also, has anyone started putting files of IOS into the CVS tree yet? Michael On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:46:04 +0100, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > Hi, >=20 > I've now set up a chrooted cvs pserver on this machine, just waiting > for > DNS to update. >=20 > Unfortunately, until I've sorted out a web frontend for adding > passwords > I'll need you to do this: >=20 > Run mkpasswd (part of the whois package on debian) >=20 > Mail the output to cv...@do... along with your chosen username. >=20 > Sit back & wait whilst I sort out the neccasary & reply to you ;-) >=20 > Alternatively, if you really can't use mkpasswd mail me the password > you > want - I'd advise using gpg (My fingerprint is in my headers). >=20 > FYI, we have an anonymous, read-only user called cvs, with the password > cvs for now. The cvsroot it: >=20 > ":pserver:use...@cv...:/inceptionos" >=20 > HTH > --=20 > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ >=20 > "Almost sounds like Satan putting up a Help Wanted advertisement, > looking > to recruit more staff for the circles of hell" > Alien54 in response to a job ad from Microsoft. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=3Dsourceforge1&refcode1=3Dvs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel >=20 -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... --=20 http://fastmail.fm/ - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-09-10 08:46:11
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Hi, I've now set up a chrooted cvs pserver on this machine, just waiting for DNS to update. Unfortunately, until I've sorted out a web frontend for adding passwords I'll need you to do this: Run mkpasswd (part of the whois package on debian) Mail the output to cv...@do... along with your chosen username. Sit back & wait whilst I sort out the neccasary & reply to you ;-) Alternatively, if you really can't use mkpasswd mail me the password you want - I'd advise using gpg (My fingerprint is in my headers). FYI, we have an anonymous, read-only user called cvs, with the password cvs for now. The cvsroot it: ":pserver:use...@cv...:/inceptionos" HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ "Almost sounds like Satan putting up a Help Wanted advertisement, looking to recruit more staff for the circles of hell" Alien54 in response to a job ad from Microsoft. |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-09 19:35:11
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Terry, Forgot to say thanks. Michael On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:21:39 +0100, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: >=20 > > We can't use SF's CVS for the project, because I don't think they'd l= et > > us host a complete Linux distro on their servers like that. So, it > > would be better to set one up for our site at cvs.inceptionos.org >=20 > OK - good point. I'll get a cvs server set up on cvs.inceptionos.org > over the next few days. >=20 > HTH > --=20 > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ >=20 > DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, > will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. >=20 -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... --=20 http://fastmail.fm - Click it, you'll feel better |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-09 19:34:41
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Terry, Found something you might like, go to the following link, as we'll be able to also change the HTML documents into XML documents as well: http://www.xmlhack.com/read.php?item=3D1771 Michael On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:21:39 +0100, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: >=20 > > We can't use SF's CVS for the project, because I don't think they'd l= et > > us host a complete Linux distro on their servers like that. So, it > > would be better to set one up for our site at cvs.inceptionos.org >=20 > OK - good point. I'll get a cvs server set up on cvs.inceptionos.org > over the next few days. >=20 > HTH > --=20 > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ >=20 > DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, > will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. >=20 -- Michael Lauzon Founder & Lead Project Manager InceptionOS Project http://www.inceptionos.org/ mi...@in... --=20 http://fastmail.fm/ - Access your email from home and the web |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-09 19:30:06
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Kelledin, Don't know how I could have missed that about the LSB...of course the mailing list is basically dead for the LSB.... Michael On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:15:15 -0500, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > On Monday 09 September 2002 01:54 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > > Kelledin, > > > > When did 1.2 come out, I could swear they just released 1.1 a > > few months ago...how fast they work.... >=20 > http://www.linuxbase.org/ : >=20 > "The LSB rollouts out everything with LSB v1.2 on June 28th,=20 > 2002!" >=20 > Sorry, couldn't resist that jab. ;) >=20 > --=20 > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 > it still cost four figures to fix?" >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=3Dsourceforge1&refcode1=3Dvs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel >=20 --=20 Faster than the email provider that you're using! Soar with FastMail.FM! -> http://fastmail.fm=20 |
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From: Terry C. <te...@do...> - 2002-09-09 19:21:50
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Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: > We can't use SF's CVS for the project, because I don't think they'd let > us host a complete Linux distro on their servers like that. So, it > would be better to set one up for our site at cvs.inceptionos.org OK - good point. I'll get a cvs server set up on cvs.inceptionos.org over the next few days. HTH -- Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ DUMMY MODE, n. The mode in which a user, overcome by technical terms, will believe, and/or do, anything he or she is told. |
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From: Kelledin <kel...@sk...> - 2002-09-09 19:17:37
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On Monday 09 September 2002 01:54 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > Kelledin, > > When did 1.2 come out, I could swear they just released 1.1 a > few months ago...how fast they work.... http://www.linuxbase.org/ : "The LSB rollouts out everything with LSB v1.2 on June 28th,=20 2002!" Sorry, couldn't resist that jab. ;) --=20 Kelledin "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 it still cost four figures to fix?" |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-09 18:54:54
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Kelledin, When did 1.2 come out, I could swear they just released 1.1 a few months ago...how fast they work.... Michael On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:59:33 -0500, "Kelledin" <kel...@sk...> said: > On Sunday 08 September 2002 03:08 pm, Michael Lauzon wrote: > > About following the LSB, are we using the 1.0 spec or the 1.1 > > spec...preferably it is 1.1? I am just bringing this up, > > because as you know we should keep following the spec even > > when a new one comes out. >=20 > Currently I'm targeting LSB 1.2 compliance. Once we get a=20 > pre-release/demo ISO up, one of the first things to do will be=20 > to hammer it with LSB tests. >=20 > --=20 > Kelledin > "If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does=20 > it still cost four figures to fix?" >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=3Dsourceforge1&refcode1=3Dvs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Maxlinux-devel mailing list > Max...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxlinux-devel >=20 --=20 http://fastmail.fm -- Does exactly what it says on the tin |
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From: Michael L. <inc...@my...> - 2002-09-09 18:53:32
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Terry, I have yet to take a look at a SGML document, I've seen XML documents...so they must not be all that different to a certain extent; so when you're finished with the document I'll take a look at it in SGML format. Michael On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:20:25 +0100, "Terry Churchill" <te...@do...> said: > Michael Lauzon <inc...@my...> Said: >=20 > > We should also make the document to HTML as well, and host it on the > > web site to. >=20 > We will do - I write .sgml files that can be converted to html/txt & > pdf > files using the docbook tools. >=20 > I'll make sure the documents are avaliable in all four formats. >=20 > HTH >=20 > --=20 > Terry Churchill : http://www.doc-linux.co.uk/ >=20 > I can bend minds with my spoon >=20 --=20 http://fastmail.fm - 100% lightning |
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