Who needs yet another "Me-Too" distro. Gadzooks there
must be 300 of them by now.
What is the focus of ML ? What will it have that others don't.? Why start anothe when so many are going belly-up?
Now if MS's purpose was to take a Windows user by the and and lead them to Linux in a gental and educational way, while preserving their data, not requiring nukeing their drive, while providing access (wine? ) to all their existing software that they believe they can't live without, but at the same time protecting them from all the viruses and crashes, and doing all this in a non-threatening and non-insulting way it might have a chance of making it BIG.
You got to find a nitch...
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Who is our target audiance? What should we address in terms of usability?
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-04-29
Well, one thing I think that this project could bring is integration between the desktop and the OS. With most distributions, the user needs to use tons of different administration and configuration programs just to do simple tasks. I am a KDE fan, and I wondered if our main configuration tool could be built into the KDE Control Center, written maybe with KDevelop or some KDE specific app. But anyhow, I think that the most important thing we could do is make the OS more integrated with the desktop. Of course, a better package manager would be nice too :-)
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
I like that idea. I think we should create a MaxAdmin utility--a one-stop piece of software for sytsem configuration--and design a curses-based variant (for the console) as well as a KDE control center applet.
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-05-03
Good idea. There should be a command line based administration program.
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-06-08
"linuxconf" (available on freshmeat.net) fits this bill. On a personal note, I'm personnally not a big fan of one tool to configure the entire system. However it would be a good start as general system configuration tool.
Gord
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
We should also have a all-in-one documentation center/app which serves as the the first place a user looks for info...before simple things like the man/info pages etc.... however the others will still be needed, but maybe an integrated front-end that ties together all the various documentation sources normally found on the standard Linux system..
It should be searchable, indexable, catagorized.. etc...
Possible things to include
1. FAQs covering a wide array of topics...
2. Howto's customized for Maximum Linux
3. locations of common configution files.. etc..
-just thinking out loud
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-05-03
Why don't we use the KDE Help Center for the info, and have a command line version in addition to it.
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-05-03
That's a good idea -- why repeat work that has already been done? Furthermore, a command-line util probably isn't needed because chances are that a command line user doesn't need the very basic documentation, but would comfortable with using the man/info pages.
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-04-29
I think the idea is to create a distro "right". Most "desktop" distros out there are terrible, IMO. Maybe, by seeing the millions of mistakes made by other distros, this one could be one that can be finally used on the average desktop (rather than only for the extreme power user).
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-04-30
KDE.. Good point.... Should this distro be a niche for just KDE users? Should we focus devel on one and only one GUI ? I agree our tools should be centralized. But then again if you creat in GTK it runs fine in kde but not the other way around.
Espesialy with kde2.0 you have to load some more overhead to get kde stuff to run in gnome.
(Example Running Kmail in gnome, it doubles the time to load. Verses running it in KDE2.0)
My personal Sugestion... is anyone familar with dialog?
If we had a gui version of dialog that creats a wizard type enviroment. Then you could choose your Language. Sh, Perl, Python, The most popular of the test prosessing languages, because 99% of all linux admin and configuragtion is Text based. Makeing a simple platform to get config to the GUI
would be paramount. Developers could create a script that folows a standard, ( module if you will ) not restricted to a language type but with a common gui frontend program.
Inorder to centralize all these (MODULES) each config (Wizard) progam would be regestered with a master config progam. that would alow the user to choose his config script/progam.
This would take the load of creating config modules off of any one set of core delevopers.
a prime example of this working. is the WEBMIN project.
www.webmin.org
Common interface. PHP/perl
With Modules to config with, add or remove modules
at will. ( most of the modules are in perl )
Instead of having a php interface.. have a gui interface.
thrawn01@mindspring.com
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Anonymous
-
2001-04-30
I think that KDE really is the way to go. Most reviews (serious reviews, at least) favor KDE over GNOME. Also, KDE is a little faster than GNOME.
Integrating the configuration software (and others) with say, the KDE Control Center is a viable way of making it easier for the desktop user to manage. This is what Corel did with their now abandoned Linux OS. Although the distribution itself had some problems, the administration tool which was integrated tightly with the KDE Control Center was very easy to use. It would help if the MaxLinux Control Center (or whatever we will call it) had more power than Corel did, but their idea of integrating it with KDE was great.
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
Who needs yet another "Me-Too" distro. Gadzooks there
must be 300 of them by now.
What is the focus of ML ? What will it have that others don't.? Why start anothe when so many are going belly-up?
Now if MS's purpose was to take a Windows user by the and and lead them to Linux in a gental and educational way, while preserving their data, not requiring nukeing their drive, while providing access (wine? ) to all their existing software that they believe they can't live without, but at the same time protecting them from all the viruses and crashes, and doing all this in a non-threatening and non-insulting way it might have a chance of making it BIG.
You got to find a nitch...
"Now if MS's purpose" was meant to read "Now if ML's purpose", meaning Maximum Linux.'s purpose.
Maybe I shoud breview this stuff huh?
Good point ice. What does everyone else think?
Who is our target audiance? What should we address in terms of usability?
Well, one thing I think that this project could bring is integration between the desktop and the OS. With most distributions, the user needs to use tons of different administration and configuration programs just to do simple tasks. I am a KDE fan, and I wondered if our main configuration tool could be built into the KDE Control Center, written maybe with KDevelop or some KDE specific app. But anyhow, I think that the most important thing we could do is make the OS more integrated with the desktop. Of course, a better package manager would be nice too :-)
I like that idea. I think we should create a MaxAdmin utility--a one-stop piece of software for sytsem configuration--and design a curses-based variant (for the console) as well as a KDE control center applet.
Good idea. There should be a command line based administration program.
"linuxconf" (available on freshmeat.net) fits this bill. On a personal note, I'm personnally not a big fan of one tool to configure the entire system. However it would be a good start as general system configuration tool.
Gord
We should also have a all-in-one documentation center/app which serves as the the first place a user looks for info...before simple things like the man/info pages etc.... however the others will still be needed, but maybe an integrated front-end that ties together all the various documentation sources normally found on the standard Linux system..
It should be searchable, indexable, catagorized.. etc...
Possible things to include
1. FAQs covering a wide array of topics...
2. Howto's customized for Maximum Linux
3. locations of common configution files.. etc..
-just thinking out loud
Why don't we use the KDE Help Center for the info, and have a command line version in addition to it.
That's a good idea -- why repeat work that has already been done? Furthermore, a command-line util probably isn't needed because chances are that a command line user doesn't need the very basic documentation, but would comfortable with using the man/info pages.
I think the idea is to create a distro "right". Most "desktop" distros out there are terrible, IMO. Maybe, by seeing the millions of mistakes made by other distros, this one could be one that can be finally used on the average desktop (rather than only for the extreme power user).
KDE.. Good point.... Should this distro be a niche for just KDE users? Should we focus devel on one and only one GUI ? I agree our tools should be centralized. But then again if you creat in GTK it runs fine in kde but not the other way around.
Espesialy with kde2.0 you have to load some more overhead to get kde stuff to run in gnome.
(Example Running Kmail in gnome, it doubles the time to load. Verses running it in KDE2.0)
My personal Sugestion... is anyone familar with dialog?
If we had a gui version of dialog that creats a wizard type enviroment. Then you could choose your Language. Sh, Perl, Python, The most popular of the test prosessing languages, because 99% of all linux admin and configuragtion is Text based. Makeing a simple platform to get config to the GUI
would be paramount. Developers could create a script that folows a standard, ( module if you will ) not restricted to a language type but with a common gui frontend program.
Inorder to centralize all these (MODULES) each config (Wizard) progam would be regestered with a master config progam. that would alow the user to choose his config script/progam.
This would take the load of creating config modules off of any one set of core delevopers.
a prime example of this working. is the WEBMIN project.
www.webmin.org
Common interface. PHP/perl
With Modules to config with, add or remove modules
at will. ( most of the modules are in perl )
Instead of having a php interface.. have a gui interface.
thrawn01@mindspring.com
I think that KDE really is the way to go. Most reviews (serious reviews, at least) favor KDE over GNOME. Also, KDE is a little faster than GNOME.
Integrating the configuration software (and others) with say, the KDE Control Center is a viable way of making it easier for the desktop user to manage. This is what Corel did with their now abandoned Linux OS. Although the distribution itself had some problems, the administration tool which was integrated tightly with the KDE Control Center was very easy to use. It would help if the MaxLinux Control Center (or whatever we will call it) had more power than Corel did, but their idea of integrating it with KDE was great.
As I stated before, there will not be a default desktop...the enduser will decide at installation which desktop environment he/she wants installed.
Michael