Re: [Maxima-discuss] ***SPAM*** Recent CSS changes

[Jaime V. <vi...@fe...>]

On 25/07/25 04:52, Raymond Toy wrote:
>
> First, it seems that you've changed the background for the nav bar to 
> be a fairly light gray. I find that really hard to distinguish from 
> the current white background. This is a matter of taste, I guess, but 
> I liked the blue from the Emacs manual because it stands out more.
>
I didn't like that blue because it got confused with the blue example 
boxes. Adding an extra color, different from the blue of the examples 
and the yellow of the category boxes seemed ugly, so I opted for gray. 
As a compromise, I will try a darker, more bluish, gray.


> Second, you are using div.header for the CSS for the nav bar. That's 
> fine for texinfo 6.8, but for 7.2, that doesn't exist. I guess that's 
> why I chose .nav-panel originally. I guess we need to handle both 
> cases. I have texinfo 7.1 and 7.1.1 around; I'll try those out soon to 
> see what CSS property is used.
>
Okay, I will copy the same style for both div.header and div.nav-panel.
>
> Third, you're using FreeSans for the font (with a fallback to sans 
> serif) and Courier New with a fallback to monospace. Based on 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10277002/where-can-i-find-list-with-web-safe-fonts, 
> maybe we should try to use some web-safe fonts instead. No font is 
> universally available, but the links there do suggest some of the most 
> common fonts available on Windows and Mac. (The list is outdated, I 
> think.) I suspect Windows (presumably the most common users of the 
> manual?) don't have FreeSans.
>
I hadn't paid much attention to the fonts because my intention was to 
add DejaVu fonts provided by us for all users. But after some testing I 
think the extra trouble of providing WOFF fonts is not worth it. The 
page already looks good with Web safe fonts. "FreeSans" was already 
there in manual.css; I didn't add it. It seems like a relic that is not 
used anymore. I think a good list of fonts that will work fine for the 
manual (and be consistent with Maxima's website) is the following:

    text:   Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif

    code: "Courier New", monospace

They work fine in Ubuntu and Windows 10. You can check in Mac and add 
something else to the list (preferably at the end but before sans-serif 
or monospace)

Jaime