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From: <si...@EE...> - 2004-02-03 22:22:52
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Good. You're not the first user, but there are not too many windows developers using Matlisp. I'd be happy to get feedback from you as you encounter problems. Keep in mind, especially, that some functions will not be available on windows, for example, discrete fourier transforms and some special purpose functions. What are you doing that so heavily relies on SVD? Tunc ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernst van Waning <ev...@in...> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2004 1:59 pm Subject: RE: [Matlisp-users] Matlisp on ACLv6 works here :) > Hello! > > Found what was wrong -- pretty trivial: (user::current-directory) was > correct, but *default-pathname-defaults* was pointing one > directory higher. > After setting *default-pathname-defaults* to (user::current-directory) > Matlisp (the version Tunc referred to in the message quoted below) > compiledand loaded, seemingly as expected. > > Is it true that I am one of the first Matlisp-users on windows? > In that > case I will be glad to send you a transcript of the compilation. > There are > lots of messages that may be more meaningful to you than they are > currentlyto me :) > > Tried some things (multiplication and SVD), which appeared to work as > expected. So, my problem is over. > > OTOH, I understand it is a lot of work to make Matlisp and keep it > working,so if you need a bit of help from my side, just say so & > I'll see what I can > do. I plan to make a system that uses large non-sparse matrices, > whichrelies heavily on the SVD. > > Again, I hope to hear from you soon. > > Kind regards, > > Ernst > > PS Totally off-topic, but very curious where the name Tunc Simsek > originates from:) > > "-----Original Message----- > "From: mat...@li... > "[mat...@li...]On Behalf Of > "si...@EE... > "Sent: 02 February 2004 23:28 > "To: Raymond Toy > "Cc: ev...@in...; Matlisp Users > "Subject: Re: [Matlisp-users] Matlisp and ACLv6 > " > " > "Hi again. > " > "Two point here. > " > "First, Ernst, I insist that you infact not loading > "the distribution from the link I sent you. > "I just checked and f77-mangling.lisp exists in > "the right place. I think you're trying to load > "the distribution you got from matlisp.sourceforge.net. > "My suspicions were first arised when I say matlisp-1.0b > "in the command line in your dribble. > "Please try just one more time. Make sure to get > "the zip file from > " > "http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/~simsek/matlisp-allegro-v6.2.zip > " > "Then unzip it to say c:/ (this will create a directory > "called c:/matlisp). Then, from within allegro, do: > " > ":cd c:/matlisp > ":ld start > " > " > "The second point. Ray. You're right. On unix you > "need to run configure. To avoid that, I manually configured > "for windows and produced the f77-mangling.lisp from the > "f77-mangling.lisp.in > "file. It exists in the link I gave above. > " > "Thanks again, > "Tunc > " > " > "----- Original Message ----- > "From: Raymond Toy <to...@rt...> > "Date: Monday, February 2, 2004 2:01 pm > "Subject: Re: [Matlisp-users] Matlisp and ACLv6 > " > "> >>>>> "Ernst" == Ernst van Waning <ev...@in...> writes: > "> > "> Ernst> Yes, ok, let me be patient :) > "> Ernst> I have tried to install from Tunc's URL again and > below "> you will find what > "> Ernst> my ACL62 wrote. Apparently some fasl files are > "> missing. In fact, bin as > "> Ernst> downloaded only has one lisp source and one file > called "> copyright and > "> Ernst> another called f77-mangling.lisp.in. The file > src\f77- > "> mangling.lisp is > "> Ernst> present in bin. So, I am a bit puzzled. > "> > "> Ernst> In case you want to look into it, I have attached a > "> dribble-bug, so you know > "> Ernst> my configuration. > "> > "> Did you run configure? If you don't, f77-mangling.lisp > won't exist; > "> configure creates it. I guess this makes it somewhat > difficult to run > "> on Windows if you don't have cygwin installed. > "> > "> But I've never tried building on Windows, so there might be > some other > "> way of doing it. > "> > "> Ray > "> > "> P.S. Please reply to all so the discussion gets archived to the > "> matlisp-users mailing list. > "> > "> > "> Ericsson automatically adds the following disclaimer. I > didn't do it. > "> " > "> > "> > "> > "> This communication is confidential and intended solely for the > "> addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > "> distribution is prohibited. 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From: Raymond T. <to...@rt...> - 2004-02-03 23:05:15
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>>>>> "Tunc" == simsek <si...@ee...> writes:
Tunc> Good. You're not the first user, but there
Tunc> are not too many windows developers using Matlisp.
Tunc> I'd be happy to get feedback from you as you encounter
Tunc> problems. Keep in mind, especially, that some
Tunc> functions will not be available on windows, for
Tunc> example, discrete fourier transforms and some
Tunc> special purpose functions.
Is that because the windows version doesn't have the FFT libraries
supplied, unlike BLAS and LAPACK? Would be nice to be able to supply
that. (But I can't, since I don't have a Fortran compiler on windows,
and rarely use windows for this, anyway.)
Ray
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From: Ernst v. W. <ev...@in...> - 2004-02-06 21:12:13
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Hello, "Good. You're not the first user, but there "are not too many windows developers using Matlisp. OK -- had no real choice there :-) " "I'd be happy to get feedback from you as you encounter "problems. Keep in mind, especially, that some "functions will not be available on windows, for "example, discrete fourier transforms and some "special purpose functions. Whenever I need discrete Fourier transforms and succeed to call it form Lisp, I will inform you. " "What are you doing that so heavily relies on SVD? Finding orthogonal coordinate systems for non-symmetric, possibly rectangular matrices derived from data to facilitate application of geometric algorithms. I would like to try these algorithms for very large datasets to join or separate subsets of data and to find patterns on data. A sort of data mining, if you like, but using classical multivariate statistics combined with analysis by algorithm. Some years ago I found out that this can be done surprisingly well (to get into the algorithmic aspect I downloaded Matlisp in ACL5), but due to circumstances beyond me I return to that subject only now. It is a sort of rainy weekend project, but it rains a lot here. Before coming to the decompositions, however, quite a bit of code must be written that doesn't use Matlisp -- it will be straightforward (I hope) Lisp. Of course, there SAS, SPSS, S+ and friends, but these do not have the functionality that I am looking for. Kind regards, Ernst |
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From: Raymond T. <to...@rt...> - 2004-02-06 22:04:58
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>>>>> "Ernst" == Ernst van Waning <ev...@in...> writes:
Ernst> Whenever I need discrete Fourier transforms and succeed to call it form
Ernst> Lisp, I will inform you.
My understanding it that you will not because the library for Fourier
transforms is not supplied on Windows. Having said that, I do have a
simple version in Lisp, so if you need it, I can provide one. Only
supports powers of two, and only complex data, so if it's something
else, you might have to do that yourself.
Ray
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From: Ernst v. W. <ev...@in...> - 2004-02-09 21:28:13
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Well, I didn't go through all the library to find functions for Fourier transforms -- currently I don't need it. But a version in Lisp sounds even better! BTW, Matlisp2beta feels more stable with ACL6 than Matlisp1.0b with ACL5. Ernst "My understanding it that you will not because the library for Fourier "transforms is not supplied on Windows. Having said that, I do have a "simple version in Lisp, so if you need it, I can provide one. Only "supports powers of two, and only complex data, so if it's something "else, you might have to do that yourself. " "Ray |