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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-12-23 11:15:29
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On 12/22/2021 7:50 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote: > > That's too bad. I really miss this option. But I do understand that it > is no fun to follow any changes which TB applies, with doubtable > explanation of their needs. Things at TB seem to be moving along but at least one developer was asked to leave due to what appears to be internal disagreements. Since TB is an open project of sorts, that developer has moved on and created his own fork and calling it "BetterBird." This developer has already made strides on making fixes to a number of TB's problems on his own. I have downloaded it to eventually replace SeaMonkey since it's internal browser is often hanging on media-rich sites, and you cannot override its requirement to use only its browser rather than the system preferred (default) browser. BetterBird can use TB's themes and add-ons and is mainly a fork operating in parallel with TB, but as we all know, the number of available new and functioning add-ons or extensions are now very limited. Hopefully this trend will change. DMK |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-12-22 16:29:42
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On 12/22/2021 7:23 AM, Onno Ekker wrote: > Hi Dennis, > Sorry, but I'm not actively working on Mail Redirect at the moment, > because I don't have the time for it right now (and also not in the > near future)... Sorry to hear that. It is a much beloved add-on. I have tried the newer one by other people and have had mixed results. I learned that Mail Redirect works well with SeaMonkey and also a discontinued program called FossaMail. I have moved those addresses needing Mail Redirect to those programs for now until the newer one works a bit better. Experimentation continues. Thanks for all of the time and effort you have put into this. DMK |
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From: Martin T. <tr...@gm...> - 2021-12-22 12:50:53
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On 21-12-22 13:23, Onno Ekker wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM D. Kirkpatrick <dmk...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi Dennis, > Sorry, but I'm not actively working on Mail Redirect at the moment, > because I don't have the time for it right now (and also not in the > near future)... That's too bad. I really miss this option. But I do understand that it is no fun to follow any changes which TB applies, with doubtable explanation of their needs. Good luck for any of your other projects - maybe this will give you the time for a mailredirect update. - Martin |
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From: Onno E. <o.e...@gm...> - 2021-12-22 12:23:34
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On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM D. Kirkpatrick <dmk...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi Onno - > > Any progress on making Mail Redirect compatible with the current > versions of Thunderbird, and possibly the fork at BetterBird? > > Mail Redirect version 10.x still works with older Thunderbird versions > and clones, as well as current versions of Seamonkey. > > DMK > USA Hi Dennis, Sorry, but I'm not actively working on Mail Redirect at the moment, because I don't have the time for it right now (and also not in the near future)... Onno |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-12-18 18:15:42
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Hi Onno - Any progress on making Mail Redirect compatible with the current versions of Thunderbird, and possibly the fork at BetterBird? Mail Redirect version 10.x still works with older Thunderbird versions and clones, as well as current versions of Seamonkey. DMK USA |
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From: David J. R. Jr. <n1...@ar...> - 2021-12-15 20:04:31
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Not working on Thunderbrd 68.12.0 AMD 64 bit Linux |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-08-31 23:06:37
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On 8/31/2021 5:20 PM, D. Kirkpatrick wrote: > > Seamonkey is still using the old add-ons and respecting them. > > I have been doing some testing today but am not finished. It appears > that Gmail may have started to rule a "redirect" as junk or spam. > This may be for both the old version that you created, and the new one > by the other developer. > > I have more testing to perform of course. It seems that both your version of Mail Redirect, and the clone of Simple Redirect, are running into some random issues now with some mail servers. I have access to several mail servers and associated accounts as well as a few Gmail addresses. It appears that private mail systems are accepting redirected mail OK. However, I am seeing an uneven handling by Gmail. Some Gmail addresses I have tested receive the redirected mail OK in the InBox but some route it to the Spam folder. None of the Gmail boxes have any special filters. Also it appears that I cannot set a filter in Gmail on their system to set a filter to pass a redirected message. The Author of Simple Redirect notes on their extension web site that this is a known issue but it is due to some mail systems employing security measures that are not in alignment with approved RFC, since a redirect is allowed. I did not test Hotmail. DMK |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-08-31 21:20:38
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On 8/31/2021 1:23 PM, Onno Ekker wrote: > It's good to hear that it still works with latest SeaMonkey, because > I haven't actively checked that lately. Also, if Mail Redirect is > working with SeaMonkey and the other Redirect add-on isn't working, I > suppose it's because the other add-on does something wrong, not > because the mail provider suddenly decided to not respect the RFC, > although that does happen too, for instance with Microsoft/Hotmail. Seamonkey is still using the old add-ons and respecting them. I have been doing some testing today but am not finished. It appears that Gmail may have started to rule a "redirect" as junk or spam. This may be for both the old version that you created, and the new one by the other developer. I have more testing to perform of course. DMK |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-08-31 15:44:16
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Greetings Onno - I was wondering if you have made any significant progress on your version of Mail Redirect for modern versions of Thunderbird? I am asking because at some point in the last 2 days, my version 68 of Thunderbird, which i was holding, and which had auto-updates shut off, somehow updated on its own to version 78. As a result I lost functionality of Mail Redirect. I am still picking up the pieces. I loaded the version created by the other person and tested it and discovered that due to security features now being used by many email systems that messages sent from it now go to a junk folder in the recipient's mail account. This is unacceptable for my needs. The author states that it meets the necessary RFC requirements but newer security systems do not respect that RFC expectation. I am also running Seamonkey Version 2.53.9 and your Mail Redirect system si working properly with that and mail sent out is going to the InBox of recipients. I tested this to be sure and it seems to be working. I can temporarily move the necessary accounts to Seamonkey to keep this working but if you are still working on your add=on it would be great to know about progress. It is interesting that your add-on works properly with Seamonkey, but the other fellow's Does not work with Thunderbird. Dennis Kirkpatrick Boston, MA - USA |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-06-10 16:38:49
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On 6/10/2021 12:33 PM, Leopoldo Saggin via Mailredirect-help wrote: > Beside Simple Mail Redirection does not have a good UI, for example it > has no contacts/addressbook sidebar. I also found this to be an issue and also discovered that sometimes it does not populate properly. I had occasions when I had to stop the process and restart to get addresses to populate. DMK |
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From: Leopoldo S. <leo...@ya...> - 2021-06-10 16:33:29
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I also updated some of my computers to TB 78.x and I am still in troubles both with Google account contacts synchronization and mail redirect. I had to use Cardbook in order to sync Google account(s) contacts BUT Simple Mail Redirect does not support cardbook mailing lists; only standard TB addressbooks. So I had to use a local addressbook for redirecting mails. Beside Simple Mail Redirection does not have a good UI, for example it has no contacts/addressbook sidebar. For what the new name is concerned I think that a name like "Bounce" is ok (this term is also used in other programs like the webmail roundcube). My 2 cents tip Topoldo/Leopoldo |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-06-10 15:32:51
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On 6/10/2021 6:00 AM, Onno Ekker wrote: > > So I'm gonna try to make Mail Redirect work as an add-on again after > all, but the work had some delay. > > Also, I'm probably going to rename the add-on to Mail Resend, or > something, as Redirect is now used by Thunderbird itself for a totally > different functionality... Thank you much for this. I have 2 computers operating your Mail Redirect. I experimented with one and updated it to TB 78 and then downloaded the alternate redirect add on by the other person. I have found it not as robust, and remain concerned about functionality. When I have tested it, the resent messages seem to languish between sender and destination as if mail server security issues are being triggered, or for some other reason. As such the second computer has not been updated to a newer version of TB. I also still use Seamonkey and the current version of Mail Redirect still works well with it. DMK |
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From: Andrew M. <and...@af...> - 2021-06-10 11:50:26
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Mail Bounce? I think that is better. Or Mail Re-Send .. Thanks for the report and your great work! It is very much appreciated. -- [Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.] Kind Regards AndrewM |
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From: Martin T. <tr...@gm...> - 2021-05-06 05:54:59
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On 21-04-28 20:05, Onno Ekker wrote: > I look forward to hear what you have to say about this turn of events... I guess I still do like yours most - I feel that you can and will react better on our needs. e.g. a sticky From: for different accounts that you will use for redirect purposes. Or even a mail server you can use for redirection, since many mail providers have disabled that service. Thanks for all the great work, Martin |
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From: Jakob D. <wen...@gm...> - 2021-05-06 05:48:13
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Well Onno, thanks for providing this awesome plugin and for this information. Thanks for all your effort keeping. Anyway, I feel that your effort for Mail Redirect is not wasted. TB 90b0 will soon due to be released and hopefully very quickly there will be the first feedbacks how the new feature behaves. Kind regards, Jakob Am 28.04.2021 um 20:05 schrieb Onno Ekker: > Hi Mail Redirect users, > > I have some good news and some bad news for you. > > After having nearly (?) completed the conversion of Mail Redirect from a > traditional overlay XUL-extension to an MailExt Experiment, I learned > that almost everything Mail Redirect does is apparently already built > into Thunderbird core, as a project to integrate functionality of the > Eudora e-mail client into Thunderbird. This has happened completely out > of my sight, so I coded a lot that I didn't have to code... > > Now there's finally also some movement in bug 12916 to do the final work > of integrating the redirect functionality into Thunderbird core and this > is expected to be build into Thunderbird 90 Beta and if all goes well, > in Thunderbird 91 ESR, which will be released around September. > > So the good news is redirect will finally be integrated into Thunderbird > core, cancelling the need for a separate extension. > > The bad news of course is that because of this, I sincerely doubt > whether its worth to put in the effort to complete Mail Redirect for > Thunderbird 78. Converting it into a MailExt Experiment already crippled > it and I now think it will be better to try and help Thunderbird > developer's to make the standard redirect function built into > Thunderbird as good as possible instead. > > I look forward to hear what you have to say about this turn of events... > > Kind regards, > > Onno Ekker > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailredirect-help mailing list > Mai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mailredirect-help |
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From: Leopoldo S. <leo...@ya...> - 2021-04-30 13:04:59
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Hi Onno! Thanks for the info. I'm still on 68.x at the University where most of the work with mailredirect is done. On the contrary I moved to 78.x at home where I'm using Simple Mail Redirect as replacement. I have been using it only in few occasions and it worked. It has not a very pleasant aspect, is is quite bare but in my hand it worked. IMHO a more general consideration is that TB 78.x is not as good as 68.x. Moving TB to web extensions had a considerable impact on some features specific of extensions that are not supported anymore. Beside to mailredirect in fact many other extensions which required time and efforts to developers were gone with TB 78.x... Anyway thanks again for the effort you put in the maintenance of mailredirect for such a long time... Leopoldo Il giorno 28/04/2021 alle 20:05, Onno Ekker ha scritto: > Hi Mail Redirect users, > > I have some good news and some bad news for you. > > After having nearly (?) completed the conversion of Mail Redirect from > a traditional overlay XUL-extension to an MailExt Experiment, I > learned that almost everything Mail Redirect does is apparently > already built into Thunderbird core, as a project to integrate > functionality of the Eudora e-mail client into Thunderbird. This has > happened completely out of my sight, so I coded a lot that I didn't > have to code... > > Now there's finally also some movement in bug 12916 to do the final > work of integrating the redirect functionality into Thunderbird core > and this is expected to be build into Thunderbird 90 Beta and if all > goes well, in Thunderbird 91 ESR, which will be released around > September. > > So the good news is redirect will finally be integrated into > Thunderbird core, cancelling the need for a separate extension. > > The bad news of course is that because of this, I sincerely doubt > whether its worth to put in the effort to complete Mail Redirect for > Thunderbird 78. Converting it into a MailExt Experiment already > crippled it and I now think it will be better to try and help > Thunderbird developer's to make the standard redirect function built > into Thunderbird as good as possible instead. > > I look forward to hear what you have to say about this turn of events... > > Kind regards, > > Onno Ekker > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailredirect-help mailing list > Mai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mailredirect-help -- Leopoldo Saggin MD PhD Via A. Memmo, 25 35122 PADOVA (PD) - Italy Phone: +39 049 875 2158 (home) Phone: +39 049 827 6016 (office) Email: leo...@ya... Skype: leopoldo.saggin Due cose riempiono la mente con sempre nuova e crescente ammirazione e rispetto, quanto più spesso e più a lungo la riflessione si occupa di esse: il cielo stellato sopra di me e la legge morale in me. Zwei Dinge erfüllen das Gemüt mit immer neuer und zunehmender Bewunderung und Ehrfurcht, je öfter und anhaltender sich das Nachdenken damit beschäftigt: Der bestirnte Himmel über mir und das moralische Gesetz in mir. I. Kant |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-04-28 21:51:36
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On 4/28/2021 2:05 PM, Onno Ekker wrote: > I look forward to hear what you have to say about this turn of events... We appreciate your hard efforts. Like many I have held at TB 68 and have been refusing updates. So far waiting and using the current version of Mail Redirect is still working OK. I have to wonder if waiting for TB 90 is a safe thing to do? Worth noting that Seamonkey 2.53.x still uses the old version of the Mail Redirect extension. They still seem to have a lot of the older code from Thunderbird 60 in use. That said, there is no info available to us whether they will eventually adopt the TB core code or not. Thanks for this update. DMK |
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From: Andrew M. <and...@af...> - 2021-04-28 19:28:14
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Hi Onno, Okay, the "so called" replacement that was built already is not up to scratch; your original extension does more and does it better. I wonder if the "built-in" will be as good, I can only hope that you can influence the TB dev and get it to work as well as your own extension that has many of us "stuck" on older TB. Thanks for the report and all your excellent work, it is greatly appreciated. Now, if we could only get TB to add in other nice extras, defaults or options -- I like to close a tab with a simple <esc>, but the add-on that allowed that is no more and I am forced to use <ctrl-w> or the dreaded mouse (avoiding the awkward keyboard risk) instead and <ctrl-w> is so close to <ctrl-q> that it sometimes means I quit TB instead of just closing the tab. Another annoyance is that I like to have extra columns for @senders and @receivers via this add-on https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/show-address-only/?src=userprofile and that I think that is not going to be an option for TB 78+ ..., hovering over "prettified" names is okay, but not the same. That's about all that is holding me back now, any other add-ons that were useful and which haven't made the transition to web extensions, well, I can live without, but I definitely want the redirect option that I currently enjoy due to your wonderful work! Cheers A. On 29/4/21 4:05 am, Onno Ekker wrote: > Hi Mail Redirect users, > > I have some good news and some bad news for you. > > After having nearly (?) completed the conversion of Mail Redirect from a traditional overlay XUL-extension to an MailExt Experiment, I learned that almost everything Mail > Redirect does is apparently already built into Thunderbird core, as a project to integrate functionality of the Eudora e-mail client into Thunderbird. This has happened > completely out of my sight, so I coded a lot that I didn't have to code... > > Now there's finally also some movement in bug 12916 to do the final work of integrating the redirect functionality into Thunderbird core and this is expected to be build into > Thunderbird 90 Beta and if all goes well, in Thunderbird 91 ESR, which will be released around September. > > So the good news is redirect will finally be integrated into Thunderbird core, cancelling the need for a separate extension. > > The bad news of course is that because of this, I sincerely doubt whether its worth to put in the effort to complete Mail Redirect for Thunderbird 78. Converting it into a > MailExt Experiment already crippled it and I now think it will be better to try and help Thunderbird developer's to make the standard redirect function built into Thunderbird as > good as possible instead. > > I look forward to hear what you have to say about this turn of events... > > Kind regards, > > Onno Ekker > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailredirect-help mailing list > Mai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mailredirect-help -- Andrew McGlashan |
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From: <gk...@gm...> - 2021-04-28 19:20:35
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On 28.04.2021 20:05, Onno Ekker wrote: > > The bad news of course is that because of this, I sincerely doubt > whether its worth to put in the effort to complete Mail Redirect for > Thunderbird 78. Considering there is a working Redirect extension that can be used for the current versions of TB until the Core supports Redirect, I would say - probably not worth the work. Not sure how quickly it will come out, but what can be used at the moment will - at least speaking for myself - be fully sufficient ... Thank you for putting in all the effort over the years, especially with trying to get into the new MailExt stuff! -garry |
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From: Shella A. <she...@gm...> - 2021-03-09 20:59:01
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Hi, I try to install Mail Redirect 0.10.2 and got error during the installation, Using Thunderbird Version 78.8.1 Build ID 20210304234616 Stay Safe & Stay Strong, Thanks and regards, Shella Aaron ------------------------------- This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-03-09 17:28:52
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On 3/9/2021 1:57 AM, Onno Ekker wrote: > I apologize for not replying to you sooner. I'm still planning on > making Mail redirect available again for Thunderbird / SeaMonkey > current version, Thanks Onno. I'm willing to wait. I do not want to jump to the other extension that has been developed. I've been resisting taking the TB updates that frequently pop up to me. I'm still at version 68.x Seamonkey seems to be operating Ok with the current version of Mail Redirect. Version 2.53.6 appears to have no problems since their core engine has not changed that much with respect to mail. My experience here (USA) with mail Redirect continues to be favorable and I have not seen any systems refusing my messages -- yet. Thanks for being on top of this and thanks for the response. Faith renewed. DMK |
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From: Martin T. <tr...@gm...> - 2021-03-09 07:42:17
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On 21-03-09 07:57, Onno Ekker wrote: > Hi Dennis, hi group, > > I apologize for not replying to you sooner. I'm still planning on making > Mail redirect available again for Thunderbird / SeaMonkey current > version, but I'm having a bit of motivational problems lately. It's hard > for me to put my focus on the project, with all things going on in the > world right now. > > But fear not, for tonight I'm going to attend the session "How to Get a > Project Unstuck" on the Mozilla Festival :-) > https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/BBQ9K8-1 Hi Onno, that's good news. The redirect option is a great help for many of us. So we really do appreciate if it will be available for newer TB versions. Thanks! While on it: Many email providers do refuse to accept redirects by now, when the "From" does not come from the provider's domain. Currently I do have another SMTP server, which does accept redirects. But I then always have to change the From manually. So a default From preference for the redirect dialog would be helpful - e.g. just keep the last From choice. Even better, a redirect server would be helpful. I don't know who would be willing to provide such a service and whether this could be offered via the redirect extension. It should ensure that this could be used via the redirect extension only and would not be open for spam abuse. But that's a much more sophisticated change. I just wanted to mention it. Thanks again, Martin, Germany |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-03-09 00:58:25
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Dear MailRedirect People... Dear Onno... I sent the following message below on January 1 and have not received any response. Is MailRedirect still being updated to work with newer versions of Thunderbird? At last check Onno was working on that. We also found out a different developer was already publishing a version that works with the current version of TB. I have held at TB Version 68 like many awaiting info. Anyone have any news? Thanks. Subject: On Mail Redirect Future Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 13:05:27 -0500 Greetings Onno - Happy New Year. I was wondering of you have made any decisions regarding Mail Redirect and current versions of Thunderbird and SeaMonkey. It appears that Mail Redirect ver 0.10.9 works well on SeaMonkey ver. 2.53.5.1, which is the current version. Thunderbird of course no longer works with Mail Redirect in its current format and a re-write by you was pending. Then, several weeks back we also learned that another developer appears to have written a new version of this for TB 78 and forward. I was wondering if you are planning to move forward on your plan to complete a re-write or have found some middle ground with this other developer? It was understood several weeks ago that you were unaware of his efforts. That sounded like this person was stepping on your program. I have held off updating TB and am in no hurry, and am more than willing to wait for your version but it occurred to me that some kind of update might be helpful to understand what your plans are at this point. I/we truly appreciate this add-on and for some of us (like me) it is critical. Dennis K. / USA |
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From: D. K. <dmk...@gm...> - 2021-02-22 23:23:12
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Onno - It has been a while since we have heard from you. Are you still planning to redevelop mail Redirect for the current versions of Thunderbird? I am aware that a different developer has created what he thought was a replacement, but past messages from you suggested you were not engaged or aware of this effort. As some of us have done, I am holding at TB-68.xx waiting for additional information. I am happy with this version but an update might be helpful and most appreciated. I don't mind waiting longer if this is still a project you are working on. Thanks again for a most needed add-on. Dennis K. USA |
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From: Hwang, C. <car...@ya...> - 2021-01-12 21:06:52
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Hi I'm holding at TB68.12.1(32-bit) but I am no longer getting redirected messages with the original sender's address. The sender's name remains but the email address is mine. I attach the errorconsole file in hopes it will be more informative to you than it is to me. thanks for any help you can give Carol |
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