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[Mach-devel] Patches: LD_CONFIG/-disable-selinux & defaultroot detection

[Davlet P. <dp...@us...>]

Good day,

I noticed (and fixed) a couple of problems with mach on RHEL4, patches attached:

mach-0.9.5.1-noselinux.patch: don't set LD_PRELOAD if libselinux-mach.so is not installed due to --disable-selinux option. This suppresses bogus warnings from ld about a non-existent SO file.

mach-0.9.5.1-centos-defaultroot.patch: fixes defaultroot detection on my system (RHEL4) in configure.in

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Re: [Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Jeff J. <jb...@jb...>]

On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

> I guess I just need to learn how opensuse deals with multiarch
> 

Last I checked, SuSE deals with "multilib" by creating 3 products:
    1) pure ix86/ELF32
    2) pure x86_64/ELF64
    3) a mixed install of ix86/x86_64 with all the usual "multilib"
	conventions like /lib vs /lib64

What that means is that products 1 & 2 don't distinguish "multilib"
packages and should not be mixed with product 3. The *.rpm packaging
(and the contents within) follow different packaging (and path)
conventions than product 3.

Sure you can try, and sometimes you will succeed. But you won't
succeed in general, SuSE has different conventions than other distros.

hth

73 de Jeff

Re: [Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Yaroslav H. <li...@on...>]

I guess I just need to learn how opensuse deals with multiarch

Thanks for all your help!

Cheers

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Julien Moutte wrote:

>    Usually I don't use setarch for x86_64 as the host distro is already
>    with the right arch.
>    Julien Moutte,
>    FLUENDO S.A.
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Re: [Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Julien M. <ju...@fl...>]

Usually I don't use setarch for x86_64 as the host distro is already with
the right arch.


Julien Moutte,
FLUENDO S.A.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko <li...@on...>wrote:

> THANK YOU GUYS!!!  setarch helped! I could even install opensuse 11.2 ;)
> haven't checked internals yet though ;)
>
> the question now either I could do similar for x86_64 since on my
> attempts I failed:
>
>  setarch x86_64 mach -d -r opensuse-112-x86_64-core setup build
>
> Dependencies Resolved
>
>
> ================================================================================
>  Package              Arch          Version               Repository
> Size
>
> ================================================================================
> Installing:
>  bash                 i586          4.0-18.3              opensuse
>  296 k
>  bash                 x86_64        4.0-18.3              opensuse
>  309 k
>  glibc                i686          2.10.1-10.4           opensuse
>  1.6 M
>  glibc                x86_64        2.10.1-10.4           opensuse
>  1.7 M
> Installing for dependencies:
>  filesystem           x86_64        11.2-12.2             opensuse
> 51 k
>  libncurses5          i586          5.6-91.2              opensuse
>  247 k
>  libncurses5          x86_64        5.6-91.2              opensuse
>  243 k
>  libreadline6         i586          6.0-18.3              opensuse
>  107 k
>  libreadline6         x86_64        6.0-18.3              opensuse
>  109 k
>  terminfo-base        x86_64        5.6-91.2              opensuse
>  117 k
>
> Transaction Summary
>
> ================================================================================
> Install      10 Package(s)
> Upgrade       0 Package(s)
>
> Total size: 4.8 M
> Downloading Packages:
> Running rpm_check_debug
> Running Transaction Test
> Finished Transaction Test
>
>
> Transaction Check Error:
>   file /bin/bash conflicts between attempted installs of bash-4.0-18.3.i586
> and bash-4.0-18.3.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/bashbug conflicts between attempted installs of
> bash-4.0-18.3.i586 and bash-4.0-18.3.x86_64
>  file /etc/ld.so.conf conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /sbin/ldconfig conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/gencat conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/getconf conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/getent conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/iconv conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/ldd conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/locale conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/bin/localedef conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>  file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
>
> Error Summary
> -------------
>
> ERROR: Could not yum -y install bash glibc
> DEBUG: unlocking root
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Julien Moutte wrote:
>
> >    Simply run this instead :
> >    setarch i686 mach -r opensuse-110-i386-core setup base
> >    Indeed you need to make sure yum does not try to install 64 bits
> >    packages because it thinks the cpu is 64 bits. setarch does that for
> >    you.
> >    I am not 100% sure that this particular root works. Haven't checked it
> >    in a while.
> >    Julien Moutte,
> >    FLUENDO S.A.
>
> --
>                                  .-.
> =------------------------------   /v\  ----------------------------=
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> Yaroslav Halchenko              /(   )\               ICQ#: 60653192
>                   Linux User    ^^-^^    [175555]
>
>
>

Re: [Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Yaroslav H. <li...@on...>]

THANK YOU GUYS!!!  setarch helped! I could even install opensuse 11.2 ;)
haven't checked internals yet though ;)

the question now either I could do similar for x86_64 since on my
attempts I failed:

 setarch x86_64 mach -d -r opensuse-112-x86_64-core setup build

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package              Arch          Version               Repository       Size
================================================================================
Installing:
 bash                 i586          4.0-18.3              opensuse        296 k
 bash                 x86_64        4.0-18.3              opensuse        309 k
 glibc                i686          2.10.1-10.4           opensuse        1.6 M
 glibc                x86_64        2.10.1-10.4           opensuse        1.7 M
Installing for dependencies:
 filesystem           x86_64        11.2-12.2             opensuse         51 k
 libncurses5          i586          5.6-91.2              opensuse        247 k
 libncurses5          x86_64        5.6-91.2              opensuse        243 k
 libreadline6         i586          6.0-18.3              opensuse        107 k
 libreadline6         x86_64        6.0-18.3              opensuse        109 k
 terminfo-base        x86_64        5.6-91.2              opensuse        117 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install      10 Package(s)
Upgrade       0 Package(s)

Total size: 4.8 M
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /bin/bash conflicts between attempted installs of bash-4.0-18.3.i586 and bash-4.0-18.3.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/bashbug conflicts between attempted installs of bash-4.0-18.3.i586 and bash-4.0-18.3.x86_64
  file /etc/ld.so.conf conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /sbin/ldconfig conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/gencat conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/getconf conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/getent conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/iconv conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/ldd conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/locale conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/bin/localedef conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64
  file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.10.1-10.4.i686 and glibc-2.10.1-10.4.x86_64

Error Summary
-------------

ERROR: Could not yum -y install bash glibc
DEBUG: unlocking root


On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Julien Moutte wrote:

>    Simply run this instead :
>    setarch i686 mach -r opensuse-110-i386-core setup base
>    Indeed you need to make sure yum does not try to install 64 bits
>    packages because it thinks the cpu is 64 bits. setarch does that for
>    you.
>    I am not 100% sure that this particular root works. Haven't checked it
>    in a while.
>    Julien Moutte,
>    FLUENDO S.A.

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                                  .-.
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Re: [Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Julien M. <ju...@fl...>]

Simply run this instead :

setarch i686 mach -r opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

Indeed you need to make sure yum does not try to install 64 bits packages
because it thinks the cpu is 64 bits. setarch does that for you.

I am not 100% sure that this particular root works. Haven't checked it in a
while.

Julien Moutte,
FLUENDO S.A.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Thomas Vander Stichele <
th...@ap...> wrote:

> > Hi,
>
> Hi Yaroslav,
>
> > Thanks to friendly hint from #debian I got mach installed (0.9.5
> > manually rebuilt from Debian's version + uupdate on 0.9.5 source
> > tarball).  unfortunately although opensuse was described as supported in
> > NEWS it was absent from /etc/mach/dist.d -- I've got corresponding file
> > from CVS.  Now I've ran
> >
> > mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base
> >
> > on a box running Debian squeeze/sid on x86_64  box
> >
> > but at the end got:
>
> > ,---
> > | Transaction Summary
> > |
> ================================================================================
> > | Install      10 Package(s)
> > | Upgrade       0 Package(s)
> > |
> > | Total size: 4.5 M
> > | Downloading Packages:
> > | Running rpm_check_debug
> > | Running Transaction Test
> > | Finished Transaction Test
> > |
> > |
> > | Transaction Check Error:
> > |   file /etc/ld.so.conf conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /sbin/ldconfig conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/gencat conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/getconf conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/getent conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/iconv conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/ldd conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/locale conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/bin/localedef conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade conflicts between attempted
> installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo conflicts between attempted installs of
> glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> > |   file /bin/bash conflicts between attempted installs of
> bash-3.2-112.1.x86_64 and bash-3.2-112.1.i586
> > |   file /usr/bin/bashbug conflicts between attempted installs of
> bash-3.2-112.1.x86_64 and bash-3.2-112.1.i586
> > |
> > | Error Summary
> > | -------------
> > |
> > | ERROR: Could not yum -y install bash glibc
> > | DEBUG: unlocking root
> > `---
> >
> > unfortunately I am ignorant in SuSe so can't resolve this issue on my own
> -- I
> > only hoped that mach would do installation for me so I could simply use
> that
> > chroot ;)  Is there an easy way to address the issue on conflicting
> > architectures within opensuse-110-i386 config?  do you know why is it
> doing
> > multiarch right from the box even if I requested simply i386?
>
> I don't know opensuse myself.  I CC'd Julien Moutte, who contributed
> those config files.  My best guess at this point would be that you are
> running into this because you set up an i386 chroot on a 64 bit guest.
> While this should work fine (and does for Fedora, using setarch), I'm
> not sure how opensuse changes that.
>
> Julien, any ideas ?
>
> Thomas
>
>

Re: [Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Thomas V. S. <th...@ap...>]

> Hi,

Hi Yaroslav,

> Thanks to friendly hint from #debian I got mach installed (0.9.5
> manually rebuilt from Debian's version + uupdate on 0.9.5 source
> tarball).  unfortunately although opensuse was described as supported in
> NEWS it was absent from /etc/mach/dist.d -- I've got corresponding file
> from CVS.  Now I've ran
> 
> mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base
> 
> on a box running Debian squeeze/sid on x86_64  box
> 
> but at the end got:

> ,---
> | Transaction Summary
> | ================================================================================
> | Install      10 Package(s)
> | Upgrade       0 Package(s)
> |
> | Total size: 4.5 M
> | Downloading Packages:
> | Running rpm_check_debug
> | Running Transaction Test
> | Finished Transaction Test
> |
> |
> | Transaction Check Error:
> |   file /etc/ld.so.conf conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /sbin/ldconfig conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/gencat conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/getconf conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/getent conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/iconv conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/ldd conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/locale conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/bin/localedef conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
> |   file /bin/bash conflicts between attempted installs of bash-3.2-112.1.x86_64 and bash-3.2-112.1.i586
> |   file /usr/bin/bashbug conflicts between attempted installs of bash-3.2-112.1.x86_64 and bash-3.2-112.1.i586
> |
> | Error Summary
> | -------------
> |
> | ERROR: Could not yum -y install bash glibc
> | DEBUG: unlocking root
> `---
> 
> unfortunately I am ignorant in SuSe so can't resolve this issue on my own -- I
> only hoped that mach would do installation for me so I could simply use that
> chroot ;)  Is there an easy way to address the issue on conflicting
> architectures within opensuse-110-i386 config?  do you know why is it doing
> multiarch right from the box even if I requested simply i386?

I don't know opensuse myself.  I CC'd Julien Moutte, who contributed
those config files.  My best guess at this point would be that you are
running into this because you set up an i386 chroot on a 64 bit guest.
While this should work fine (and does for Fedora, using setarch), I'm
not sure how opensuse changes that.

Julien, any ideas ?

Thomas

[Mach-devel] conflicts between i386 and x86_64 while trying to install mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

[Yaroslav H. <li...@on...>]

Hi,

Thanks to friendly hint from #debian I got mach installed (0.9.5
manually rebuilt from Debian's version + uupdate on 0.9.5 source
tarball).  unfortunately although opensuse was described as supported in
NEWS it was absent from /etc/mach/dist.d -- I've got corresponding file
from CVS.  Now I've ran

mach -d --root=opensuse-110-i386-core setup base

on a box running Debian squeeze/sid on x86_64  box

but at the end got:

,---
| Transaction Summary
| ================================================================================
| Install      10 Package(s)
| Upgrade       0 Package(s)
|
| Total size: 4.5 M
| Downloading Packages:
| Running rpm_check_debug
| Running Transaction Test
| Finished Transaction Test
|
|
| Transaction Check Error:
|   file /etc/ld.so.conf conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /sbin/ldconfig conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/gencat conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/getconf conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/getent conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/iconv conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/ldd conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/locale conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/bin/localedef conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo conflicts between attempted installs of glibc-2.8-14.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.8-14.1.i686
|   file /bin/bash conflicts between attempted installs of bash-3.2-112.1.x86_64 and bash-3.2-112.1.i586
|   file /usr/bin/bashbug conflicts between attempted installs of bash-3.2-112.1.x86_64 and bash-3.2-112.1.i586
|
| Error Summary
| -------------
|
| ERROR: Could not yum -y install bash glibc
| DEBUG: unlocking root
`---

unfortunately I am ignorant in SuSe so can't resolve this issue on my own -- I
only hoped that mach would do installation for me so I could simply use that
chroot ;)  Is there an easy way to address the issue on conflicting
architectures within opensuse-110-i386 config?  do you know why is it doing
multiarch right from the box even if I requested simply i386?

thanks in advance

P.S. CCing Thomas as well since mailing list seems to be overwhelmed with
SPAM msgs, so you could easily skip this one ;)

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