From: Andrej N. G. <an...@re...> - 2013-09-03 09:46:59
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Hello dear translators! Since LibFM is reached beta stage, it means strings are in draft frozen state. I mean - they unlikely to be changed due to code change (since beta state is a feature freeze) but may be changed due to some ambiguities or similar things. Everyone are welcome to make your translations and everyone are welcome to give any suggestions if something in the pcmanfm interface isn't clear enough as there is still enough time to correct it. With best regards. Andriy. |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:13:19
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Hi Andriy What does "Changes active tab" do? Some ideas about translations: For libfm: String "Mingle files and folders" means sort by one the other. Please change it to "Show folders before files" or "Folders before files" For pcman: String "Open entered folder" -> "Click to open" For both: The %s variable sometimes is single quoted other double quoted.I suggest using same method always. The choosen one is irrelevant. Many strings don´t have an ending dot. I can´t figure wich one should have it. Please add ending dot when necessary. 2013/9/3 Andrej N. Gritsenko <an...@re...> > Hello dear translators! > > Since LibFM is reached beta stage, it means strings are in draft > frozen state. I mean - they unlikely to be changed due to code change > (since beta state is a feature freeze) but may be changed due to some > ambiguities or similar things. > Everyone are welcome to make your translations and everyone are > welcome to give any suggestions if something in the pcmanfm interface > isn't clear enough as there is still enough time to correct it. > > With best regards. > Andriy. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58040911&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-i18n mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 14:52:47
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2013/9/3 Andrej N. Gritsenko <an...@re...> > Hello! > > Sérgio Marques has written on Tuesday, 3 September, at 15:11: > >Exactly. That´s why I mentioned "Folders before files" > > Well, we can write "Do not sort folders before files" there but you > know, when it is put into a line in context menu it will bloat (or even > blow up) it: > > Ascending > Descending > --------------------------------- > By Name > By Modification Time > By Size > By File Type > --------------------------------- > Do not sort folders before files > Ignore name case > > Unfortunately in some languages there is no such simple solution as > it is in English (I mean "Mingle files and folders") so it will be then > bloated anyway. Probably I should write a comment for the translation. > BTW, do you all remember to read comments for translations? It's not too > friendly in this Pootle, comments are written with small font and away > from the translation string itself, in old Pottle it was above the string > and not small so it could be easily noticed. :( > > You can keep as is or use Oleg´s string. I know what it means so I will translete it correctly. > Ah, also I would like to remind you that any %s, %c, %d or whatever > should stay in translation in the same order and be the same, otherwise > it very likely will result in application crash. > > Will take a look on it. Did you notice something strange? Regards > >2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > >> On 2013-09-03 15:40, Oleg Koptev wrote: > >> > 'Sort folders as files' > > >> Just for reference, the old thread with link to lubuntu-user thread. > > >> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5087B5A5.7010808%40googlemail.com&forum_name=lxde-i18n > > >> brother > > >Sérgio Marques > > Andriy. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58040911&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-i18n mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Andrej N. G. <an...@re...> - 2013-09-03 15:52:03
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Hello! Sérgio Marques has written on Tuesday, 3 September, at 15:52: >2013/9/3 Andrej N. Gritsenko <an...@re...> >> Sérgio Marques has written on Tuesday, 3 September, at 15:11: >> >Exactly. That´s why I mentioned "Folders before files" >> Well, we can write "Do not sort folders before files" there but you >> know, when it is put into a line in context menu it will bloat (or even >> blow up) it: >> Ascending >> Descending >> --------------------------------- >> By Name >> By Modification Time >> By Size >> By File Type >> --------------------------------- >> Do not sort folders before files >> Ignore name case >> Unfortunately in some languages there is no such simple solution as >> it is in English (I mean "Mingle files and folders") so it will be then >> bloated anyway. Probably I should write a comment for the translation. >> BTW, do you all remember to read comments for translations? It's not too >> friendly in this Pootle, comments are written with small font and away >> from the translation string itself, in old Pottle it was above the string >> and not small so it could be easily noticed. :( >You can keep as is or use Oleg´s string. I know what it means so I will >translete it correctly. "Sort folders as files" is ambiguous. Even when folders are before files, they already are sorted as files, i.e. by name, by type, etc. but they just splitted up and put before, despite of being sorted the same. The "mingle" term is the most correct one. I just add the comment for the string with explanation. >> Ah, also I would like to remind you that any %s, %c, %d or whatever >> should stay in translation in the same order and be the same, otherwise >> it very likely will result in application crash. >Will take a look on it. Did you notice something strange? Thank you very much. No, I rarely check translations if they are correct or not, I'm sorry. >Sérgio Marques Andriy. |
From: Juhani N. <juh...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 15:45:02
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Hello, Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:33:50 +0300 "Andrej N. Gritsenko" <an...@re...> kirjoitti: > Ah, also I would like to remind you that any %s, %c, %d or > whatever should stay in translation in the same order and be the > same, otherwise it very likely will result in application crash. This might not be obvious, but actually, if the order needs to be changed, you can use the notation described in Gettext manual[1], e.g. msgid "%s %c %d" msgstr "%3$d %1$s %2$c" ^^ ^^ ^^ But s, c, d etc. must be the same, this is not possible: msgid "%s %c %d" msgstr "%3$s %1$c %2$d" because argument 3 isn’t of type s, arg 1 isn’t c and arg isn’t d. [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/c_002dformat.html -- Juhani Numminen “JSonic” Finnish translator PS. I didn’t actually test those examples :) |
From: Andrej N. G. <an...@re...> - 2013-09-03 16:05:45
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Hello! Juhani Numminen has written on Tuesday, 3 September, at 18:44: >Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:33:50 +0300 >"Andrej N. Gritsenko" <an...@re...> kirjoitti: >> Ah, also I would like to remind you that any %s, %c, %d or >> whatever should stay in translation in the same order and be the >> same, otherwise it very likely will result in application crash. >This might not be obvious, but actually, if the order needs to be >changed, you can use the notation described in Gettext manual[1], e.g. > msgid "%s %c %d" > msgstr "%3$d %1$s %2$c" > ^^ ^^ ^^ >But s, c, d etc. must be the same, this is not possible: > msgid "%s %c %d" > msgstr "%3$s %1$c %2$d" >because argument 3 isn’t of type s, arg 1 isn’t c and arg isn’t d. >[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/c_002dformat.html Oh, cool, I never noticed that Single Unix Specification extension. Note that SUS is included into POSIX so it is standard now. Note also, all arguments should be in %N$x form in that case, mixing with %x isn't allowed. Thank you very much for the notice! Does anyone know if there is some translation wiki page? That would be good to write this there, I believe. >Juhani Numminen >“JSonic” >Finnish translator Cheers! Andriy. >PS. I didn’t actually test those examples :) It is from POSIX snprintf() manual page so they should work. :) |
From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2013-09-03 13:16:07
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-03 15:12, Sérgio Marques wrote: > Many strings don´t have an ending dot. I can´t figure wich one > should have it. Please add ending dot when necessary. I assume this is already the case. If the original string has a dot, the translated should also carry that (or something else if your language uses it different...) - -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJeEKAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7z2sH/3Ttu9iFwm/ck0+YkW4Tbfea KjSOpChV9V/iHkJ6ktxFszdgbxP9qTlxvoIlPa95fQialhCu2Yu0jZdynIQ/iJrK k5X+ZzXrdU/tKJMkWLXqcrinFPouIq46uckJMcM2mVUs6aaW5ZTczdFxP6NnoILg vBr1i7hHI6MBbdytfrPmjdcwzPg8KdJFGDYKcv1Kl4GZwuOEfvu6madKV/25YWIl Suwp998j7l9BnoR+dVYbEXNL5AtCAMbs3S3/haDAXbvDtvxLXQgUxykewXoQLQGz kRLwlQ8qFZMB9VHPByouOwKDc+s6NWu6k1iOyQybnBCu0rNhIsE01TE4+NdlJI8= =p8ZD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2013-09-03 13:19:38
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-03 15:12, Sérgio Marques wrote: > String "Mingle files and folders" means sort by one the other. > Please change it to "Show folders before files" or "Folders before > files" On the contrary. It means to disregard of the type and sort files and folders as equals. If you have a folder with the items "a b c d" where b and c would be directories a mingled sort would display them as above. Sorting them separate would make them "b c a d". - -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJeHaAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7zt4IAI3iGmeBHHGVpSQwY4pxKTJF Euko2FnwmcfoupIStXFwjUnxgok71VatdLTKkmDH1LL5kLTgwj+CIwfjsAgtUsLo adi/Iptlxw+cuwgNGj4J8Bs6hTsQjvl+M8VrVdL4dqrasHh2tx90roTzatkfsfhU TUI7Wy/WJ89WOCLM1M3gAkDuI+HDflrd7sYV2SQlHABnyh0+DTkCZZ+nqVgM3/w0 U2wi1tWIhBU9R5wwX+uwOga7KVW04xnaichjya6EEXRFNKvda0NcIhnyLiuXfDDf HuV4vt7BYpv0bU2t2+gi9sbvWnS2aETRoZYbEeBcyL86I3rV7mjLmgFFr9w+J9g= =Y5+O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:19:44
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2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2013-09-03 15:12, Sérgio Marques wrote: > > Many strings don´t have an ending dot. I can´t figure wich one > > should have it. Please add ending dot when necessary. > > I assume this is already the case. > If the original string has a dot, the translated should also carry > that (or something else if your language uses it different...) Could be. But look at this one. "Failed to parse '%-.*s', which should have been a digit inside a character reference (ê for example) - perhaps the digit is too large" I think that this one deserves an ending dot. Maybe I´m wrong. > > Sérgio Marques |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:21:42
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I thought it was the opposite. I remember an talk a while ago. Probably understood it wrong. Sorry about that. 2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2013-09-03 15:12, Sérgio Marques wrote: > > String "Mingle files and folders" means sort by one the other. > > Please change it to "Show folders before files" or "Folders before > > files" > > On the contrary. > It means to disregard of the type and sort files and folders as equals. > > > If you have a folder with the items "a b c d" where b and c would be > directories a mingled sort would display them as above. Sorting them > separate would make them "b c a d". > > - -- > brother > http://sis.bthstudent.se > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJeHaAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7zt4IAI3iGmeBHHGVpSQwY4pxKTJF > Euko2FnwmcfoupIStXFwjUnxgok71VatdLTKkmDH1LL5kLTgwj+CIwfjsAgtUsLo > adi/Iptlxw+cuwgNGj4J8Bs6hTsQjvl+M8VrVdL4dqrasHh2tx90roTzatkfsfhU > TUI7Wy/WJ89WOCLM1M3gAkDuI+HDflrd7sYV2SQlHABnyh0+DTkCZZ+nqVgM3/w0 > U2wi1tWIhBU9R5wwX+uwOga7KVW04xnaichjya6EEXRFNKvda0NcIhnyLiuXfDDf > HuV4vt7BYpv0bU2t2+gi9sbvWnS2aETRoZYbEeBcyL86I3rV7mjLmgFFr9w+J9g= > =Y5+O > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2013-09-03 13:50:12
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On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Sérgio Marques <sma...@gm...> wrote: > 2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 2013-09-03 15:12, Sérgio Marques wrote: >> > String "Mingle files and folders" means sort by one the other. >> > Please change it to "Show folders before files" or "Folders before >> > files" >> >> On the contrary. >> It means to disregard of the type and sort files and folders as equals. >> >> >> If you have a folder with the items "a b c d" where b and c would be >> directories a mingled sort would display them as above. Sorting them >> separate would make them "b c a d". >> > > I thought it was the opposite. I remember an talk a while ago. Probably understood it wrong. > > Sorry about that. Sure np. This mostly shows that the menu item in question is not very good and probably should be rethought some time in the future. I am among the ones who do not like it. I have no suggestion though. -- brother |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:24:08
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Another idea: Folder or directory? They are mixed. They are booth used. Intentional? Folder is more used in that M system. Most used in unix system is directory. Am I wrong? I don´t have problem with it but still... 2013/9/3 Andrej N. Gritsenko <an...@re...> > Hello dear translators! > > Since LibFM is reached beta stage, it means strings are in draft > frozen state. I mean - they unlikely to be changed due to code change > (since beta state is a feature freeze) but may be changed due to some > ambiguities or similar things. > Everyone are welcome to make your translations and everyone are > welcome to give any suggestions if something in the pcmanfm interface > isn't clear enough as there is still enough time to correct it. > > With best regards. > Andriy. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58040911&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-i18n mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2013-09-03 13:24:09
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-03 15:19, Sérgio Marques wrote: > I assume this is already the case. If the original string has a > dot, the translated should also carry that (or something else if > your language uses it different...) > > Could be. But look at this one. Case in point. Thanks. You proved my point. > "Failed to parse '%-.*s', which should have been a digit inside a > character reference (ê for example) - perhaps the digit is too > large" > > I think that this one deserves an ending dot. Maybe I´m wrong. You addressed ALL strings. Both with and without dots. That's a very hard thing to do. The above might be an oversight and those are more interesting. I just wanted to highlight the possible thought that strings with dots where supposed to have them and strings without might be supposed to not have them. If that was not the case we would be in trouble and the above bug report would not even be possible to file. - -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJeLsAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV78l4IAITgZXE3r+5H3dJ17uuI16CI fM7wmLaWqMewtlrTl5no8kc+e8S/kl017KHa3/jT45o+jNEJb6HOEiPWFAGvO+fp sWoBx3v//Bsmg+hTOHvebrbVJSNJCXfhitFRQNCZNvhqfFbxpAZf/D9pXxr5Bchw lpS1MirNemArUXL7JF4y0PWH+UkoHG3wRa5Qm/7pWktydGfk5wa0kSnM7tD+KltQ XXn4oaOPqbhGSd+ep0zynOxV4SlZlJqIYDmcR+kKDpFigElAf5sF8jaHx14PdzFP 8vO/nVykNinS1z66g16Z6IaqYAy9HYEIvXUH/DqaTbJ3NF/TknrdZkfmSQ9Taz4= =Oyso -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:32:46
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2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2013-09-03 15:19, Sérgio Marques wrote: > > I assume this is already the case. If the original string has a > > dot, the translated should also carry that (or something else if > > your language uses it different...) > > > > Could be. But look at this one. > > Case in point. Thanks. You proved my point. > > > "Failed to parse '%-.*s', which should have been a digit inside a > > character reference (ê for example) - perhaps the digit is too > > large" > > > > I think that this one deserves an ending dot. Maybe I´m wrong. > > You addressed ALL strings. Both with and without dots. That's a very > hard thing to do. The above might be an oversight and those are more > interesting. > Agreed. All strings is generic. I think I will leave them as original ones. > I just wanted to highlight the possible thought that strings with dots > where supposed to have them and strings without might be supposed to > not have them. > If that was not the case we would be in trouble and the above bug > report would not even be possible to file. > > - -- > brother > http://sis.bthstudent.se > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJeLsAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV78l4IAITgZXE3r+5H3dJ17uuI16CI > fM7wmLaWqMewtlrTl5no8kc+e8S/kl017KHa3/jT45o+jNEJb6HOEiPWFAGvO+fp > sWoBx3v//Bsmg+hTOHvebrbVJSNJCXfhitFRQNCZNvhqfFbxpAZf/D9pXxr5Bchw > lpS1MirNemArUXL7JF4y0PWH+UkoHG3wRa5Qm/7pWktydGfk5wa0kSnM7tD+KltQ > XXn4oaOPqbhGSd+ep0zynOxV4SlZlJqIYDmcR+kKDpFigElAf5sF8jaHx14PdzFP > 8vO/nVykNinS1z66g16Z6IaqYAy9HYEIvXUH/DqaTbJ3NF/TknrdZkfmSQ9Taz4= > =Oyso > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:34:18
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2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Sérgio Marques <sma...@gm...>wrote: > >> 2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 2013-09-03 15:12, Sérgio Marques wrote: >>> > String "Mingle files and folders" means sort by one the other. >>> > Please change it to "Show folders before files" or "Folders before >>> > files" >>> >>> On the contrary. >>> It means to disregard of the type and sort files and folders as equals. >>> >>> >>> If you have a folder with the items "a b c d" where b and c would be >>> directories a mingled sort would display them as above. Sorting them >>> separate would make them "b c a d". >>> >> > > I thought it was the opposite. I remember an talk a while ago. Probably > understood it wrong. > > > > Sorry about that. > > Sure np. This mostly shows that the menu item in question is not very good > and probably should be rethought some time in the future. I am among the > ones who do not like it. > I have no suggestion though. > > Maybe "Sort by filename (ignore file type)" -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Oleg K. <kop...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:41:01
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2013/9/3 Sérgio Marques <sma...@gm...> > > > > >> >> > I thought it was the opposite. I remember an talk a while ago. Probably >> understood it wrong. >> > >> > Sorry about that. >> >> Sure np. This mostly shows that the menu item in question is not very >> good and probably should be rethought some time in the future. I am among >> the ones who do not like it. >> I have no suggestion though. >> >> > Maybe "Sort by filename (ignore file type)" > Not good, since directory is not file so it have no filetype. Better will be smth. like 'Sort folders as files' > > -- > Sérgio Marques > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58040911&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-i18n mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n > > |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 13:59:19
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2013/9/3 Oleg Koptev <kop...@gm...> > > 2013/9/3 Sérgio Marques <sma...@gm...> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > I thought it was the opposite. I remember an talk a while ago. >>> Probably understood it wrong. >>> > >>> > Sorry about that. >>> >>> Sure np. This mostly shows that the menu item in question is not very >>> good and probably should be rethought some time in the future. I am among >>> the ones who do not like it. >>> I have no suggestion though. >>> >>> >> Maybe "Sort by filename (ignore file type)" >> > > Not good, since directory is not file so it have no filetype. Better will > be smth. like 'Sort folders as files' > Better than mine. > >> -- >> Sérgio Marques >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! >> Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft >> technologies >> and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step >> tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58040911&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Lxde-i18n mailing list >> Lxd...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n >> >> > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Daniele F. <df...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 14:06:33
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2013/9/3 Sérgio Marques: > Folder or directory? > > They are mixed. They are booth used. Intentional? they are different, but I don't know if libfm uses those terms consistently with this definition: "There is a difference between a directory, which is a file system concept, and the graphical user interface metaphor that is used to represent it (a folder)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folder_(computing) -- Daniele Forsi |
From: Andrej N. G. <an...@re...> - 2013-09-03 14:16:07
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Hello! Daniele Forsi has written on Tuesday, 3 September, at 16:06: >2013/9/3 Sérgio Marques: >> Folder or directory? >> They are mixed. They are booth used. Intentional? >they are different, but I don't know if libfm uses those terms >consistently with this definition: >"There is a difference between a directory, which is a file system >concept, and the graphical user interface metaphor that is used to >represent it (a folder)." >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folder_(computing) Well, LibFM trying to follow that. I understand that difference is negligible sometimes but still it is. >Daniele Forsi Andriy. |
From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2013-09-03 14:07:32
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-03 15:40, Oleg Koptev wrote: > 'Sort folders as files' Just for reference, the old thread with link to lubuntu-user thread. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5087B5A5.7010808%40googlemail.com&forum_name=lxde-i18n - -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJe0WAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7epEIALSQjM3z5vgCAVudYkLibHlB ++z8+Ws+IvTyNwv8CKvm0OrbaLU1UYzENPIv0z8kZWXDbQ5UF1aZLb0jQzDINy14 qefVGbNPMAK01kZ8NDTuymIF/Xs2hPsnGZ44x5h6DI5A8OZyIojV0kKUF2Rav7DW 92Oxtos8s8CVDWeaALJxqnA7s3rQqFClZc0jEsTFix/YbG81mw128XOFQ21M4Xh3 lZU5t7NDOigDovT4QG2mX4T3Oap2GXnDyjpbGeZLsj9MB0d9t7zGySquvdIIXAo9 GpekqQjdlXdJsOUZzNJi6ebsZdB5xoz5FFC0KxvmAGMZvC7f+oWzmrosgXgUZ4o= =F7G0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Sérgio M. <sma...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 14:12:22
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Exactly. That´s why I mentioned "Folders before files" 2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2013-09-03 15:40, Oleg Koptev wrote: > > 'Sort folders as files' > > Just for reference, the old thread with link to lubuntu-user thread. > > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5087B5A5.7010808%40googlemail.com&forum_name=lxde-i18n > > - -- > brother > http://sis.bthstudent.se > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJe0WAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7epEIALSQjM3z5vgCAVudYkLibHlB > ++z8+Ws+IvTyNwv8CKvm0OrbaLU1UYzENPIv0z8kZWXDbQ5UF1aZLb0jQzDINy14 > qefVGbNPMAK01kZ8NDTuymIF/Xs2hPsnGZ44x5h6DI5A8OZyIojV0kKUF2Rav7DW > 92Oxtos8s8CVDWeaALJxqnA7s3rQqFClZc0jEsTFix/YbG81mw128XOFQ21M4Xh3 > lZU5t7NDOigDovT4QG2mX4T3Oap2GXnDyjpbGeZLsj9MB0d9t7zGySquvdIIXAo9 > GpekqQjdlXdJsOUZzNJi6ebsZdB5xoz5FFC0KxvmAGMZvC7f+oWzmrosgXgUZ4o= > =F7G0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Sérgio Marques |
From: Oleg K. <kop...@gm...> - 2013-09-03 14:21:08
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2013/9/3 Sérgio Marques <sma...@gm...> > Exactly. That´s why I mentioned "Folders before files" > > If this option 'on' when folders sorts apart from files "Folder before files" will be neat (for English, because in my language this phrase is so-so, as folders by default goes before files, than in my language it will be much better as "Folders apart from files"). But if this option is 'on' when folders are count as files, than "Sort folders as files" will be better title. Don't judge me strong, I cannot test exact behaviour of this option now. > 2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 2013-09-03 15:40, Oleg Koptev wrote: >> > 'Sort folders as files' >> >> Just for reference, the old thread with link to lubuntu-user thread. >> >> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5087B5A5.7010808%40googlemail.com&forum_name=lxde-i18n >> >> - -- >> brother >> http://sis.bthstudent.se >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> >> iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSJe0WAAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7epEIALSQjM3z5vgCAVudYkLibHlB >> ++z8+Ws+IvTyNwv8CKvm0OrbaLU1UYzENPIv0z8kZWXDbQ5UF1aZLb0jQzDINy14 >> qefVGbNPMAK01kZ8NDTuymIF/Xs2hPsnGZ44x5h6DI5A8OZyIojV0kKUF2Rav7DW >> 92Oxtos8s8CVDWeaALJxqnA7s3rQqFClZc0jEsTFix/YbG81mw128XOFQ21M4Xh3 >> lZU5t7NDOigDovT4QG2mX4T3Oap2GXnDyjpbGeZLsj9MB0d9t7zGySquvdIIXAo9 >> GpekqQjdlXdJsOUZzNJi6ebsZdB5xoz5FFC0KxvmAGMZvC7f+oWzmrosgXgUZ4o= >> =F7G0 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > > > -- > Sérgio Marques > |
From: Andrej N. G. <an...@re...> - 2013-09-03 14:34:00
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Hello! Sérgio Marques has written on Tuesday, 3 September, at 15:11: >Exactly. That´s why I mentioned "Folders before files" Well, we can write "Do not sort folders before files" there but you know, when it is put into a line in context menu it will bloat (or even blow up) it: Ascending Descending --------------------------------- By Name By Modification Time By Size By File Type --------------------------------- Do not sort folders before files Ignore name case Unfortunately in some languages there is no such simple solution as it is in English (I mean "Mingle files and folders") so it will be then bloated anyway. Probably I should write a comment for the translation. BTW, do you all remember to read comments for translations? It's not too friendly in this Pootle, comments are written with small font and away from the translation string itself, in old Pottle it was above the string and not small so it could be easily noticed. :( Ah, also I would like to remind you that any %s, %c, %d or whatever should stay in translation in the same order and be the same, otherwise it very likely will result in application crash. >2013/9/3 Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> >> On 2013-09-03 15:40, Oleg Koptev wrote: >> > 'Sort folders as files' >> Just for reference, the old thread with link to lubuntu-user thread. >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5087B5A5.7010808%40googlemail.com&forum_name=lxde-i18n >> brother >Sérgio Marques Andriy. |