lurker-users

[Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo

[<mir...@cr...>]

There have been a few attempts for Lurker ebuild at:

Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html

Lurker was however, abandoned in Gentoo sometime in 2009, I believe.

I think lurker is far better than mailman, such as, look up how great it
works for the Devuan project:

https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

I'm only a fraction of a developer, far from a complete dev, which I'll
probably never be.

But I have put some effort into installing lurker on a non-Debian, and
no-Debian-derivative system, which is my Gentoo system, and I'm close to
having a complete out-of-Gentoo-portage installation.

Have a look at my posts in the Gentoo Forums topic link. or, for readers
convenience, from:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7712344
(which is the same link as) in the top of this message, and which is
recent; it is all in this 2015th year after Ctrist.

For this first message, I only want to post the patches needed, to
install mimelib in Gentoo, and which couldn't be posted correctly on
Gentoo Forums due to phpBB not honoring tabs in beginning of Makefile.in
files.

See how I tried in vain to post the patches at:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7809388

and pls., Gentoo readers who are (hopefully) visiting this SF
email-to-webpages links that there should be a few here, with time, as I
might need to ask for a little help as well...

and pls., Gentoo readers, and I think the method applies fine to other
arches as well...

pls. find the paches:

mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch

in the attachments to this message.

And yes, they do still have the SHA256 posted on Gentoo Forums:

3d965c59dd6adb7f2f9b9df8eb176512fa311cbd6d50ed178af5eb6ce407851a
mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
f86d8dd42f1b74e5cc81a8cb9d7505cad2d0a1f1d5b2dd99e843e1a1ad2bfba7
mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch


Note: tired and sleepy. Pls. check for possible *errata* in the next
message.

Good night for now!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo

[<mir...@cr...>]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 01:13:59AM +0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
...
> Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"
> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7712344
...
> pls. find the paches:
> 
> mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch
...
> 3d965c59dd6adb7f2f9b9df8eb176512fa311cbd6d50ed178af5eb6ce407851a
> mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> f86d8dd42f1b74e5cc81a8cb9d7505cad2d0a1f1d5b2dd99e843e1a1ad2bfba7
> mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch

The subscribers to lurker-users, if they got the same email as this one
to which I am replying (see the:
In-Reply-To: <20150917231359.GB16012@g0n>
in the headers)...
The subscribers, if that is the case, got the two patches correctly, and
signed correctly.

To not clutter this ML, and to attempt to accomplish that the patches be
available publically in the correct way, and not only, if you,
subscribers see the same what I see on the SorceForge web...  [and not
only] what can be seen at the HTML linked page:
http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/attachment/20150917231359.GB16012%40g0n/1/
where nothing is easily verified...

So to not clutter this ML, did you get this previous message of mine
that I'm replying to <20150917231359.GB16012@g0n> correctly, except for
the signature of the entire message being bad...

I don't care how long it'll take, it doesn't even have to be today, but
I like finishing my work.

See also:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7816346

Doesn't even have to be very soon, as I said, but I want to post all
about how I managed to install, as there I will probably need some help.

As I said, I do have a really bad provider, or it could be for other
reasons my messages didn't show correctly and completely, but I'm only
sending s PGP-signed message without attachments, this time.

I want to remind here that, say, this message of mine, to SourceForge:

http://sourceforge.net/p/courier/mailman/courier-maildrop/?viewmonth=201508

with this email account of mine, stil the same provider is now as then,
showed in that mailing list correctly, and also was, if other
subscribers got it like me, delivered to subscribers mailboxes, with
verifiable, and bad PGP signature of mine.

Cheers!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo

[<mir...@cr...>]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:13:49PM +0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 01:13:59AM +0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
> ...
> > Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"
> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7712344
> ...
> > pls. find the paches:
> > 
> > mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> > mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch
The message sent a little while ago shows correctly on SourceForge web,
and my PGP-sig on the message verifiable, so let me complete the first
part about Gentoo (currently out-of-portage, but working) install, the
installing of the mimelib, for which these two pathes that I am
attaching again:
> ...
> > 3d965c59dd6adb7f2f9b9df8eb176512fa311cbd6d50ed178af5eb6ce407851a
> > mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> > f86d8dd42f1b74e5cc81a8cb9d7505cad2d0a1f1d5b2dd99e843e1a1ad2bfba7
> > mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch
are needed. Pls. find them attached. Both the
mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch and the
mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch and their sigs.

And if they still don't arrive correctly, and verifiably signed, pls.
can some of the other subscirbers to the list, soon or some day in the
future that it be, post them so they be publically available, please?
Surely there'll be other people wanting to use Lurker, because it's
really so much better than mailman, and this method is non-Debian
specific, and probably non-Gentoo specific, the method that I used.

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo

[<mir...@cr...>]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:42:49PM +0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
I thought I would desist, but let me see if I figured out that it was
mistaken for me to sign the two patches and send the sigs as
attachments, and if that confused SourceForge, since it is superfluous,
since the whole mail was signed.

This is sufficient, in a PGP-signe email:
> > ...
> > > 3d965c59dd6adb7f2f9b9df8eb176512fa311cbd6d50ed178af5eb6ce407851a
> > > mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> > > f86d8dd42f1b74e5cc81a8cb9d7505cad2d0a1f1d5b2dd99e843e1a1ad2bfba7
> > > mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch

and (but this is really my last ditch attmpt), find
> mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch
attached without any superfluous signatures like before.

Otherwise, if they still does not arrive correctly, this will still be
my plea:
> 
> And if they still don't arrive correctly, and verifiably signed, pls.
> can some of the other subscirbers to the list, soon or some day in the
> future that it be, post them so they be publically available, please?
> Surely there'll be other people wanting to use Lurker, because it's
> really so much better than mailman, and this method is non-Debian
> specific, and probably non-Gentoo specific, the method that I used.
> 

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo

[<mir...@cr...>]

On 150918-13:41+0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:42:49PM +0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
> I thought I would desist, but let me see if I figured out that it was
> mistaken for me to sign the two patches and send the sigs as
> attachments, and if that confused SourceForge, since it is superfluous,
> since the whole mail was signed.
> 
> This is sufficient, in a PGP-signe email:
> > > ...
> > > > 3d965c59dd6adb7f2f9b9df8eb176512fa311cbd6d50ed178af5eb6ce407851a
> > > > mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch
> > > > f86d8dd42f1b74e5cc81a8cb9d7505cad2d0a1f1d5b2dd99e843e1a1ad2bfba7
> > > > mimelib1_1.1.4_Makefile.am.patch
This sadness that it can't be posted, is probably a SourceForge issue...
If it is incompatibility with my Mutt, well you can't afford to allow
that, you have to fix that... Have a look, similarly, attachments could
not appear as long as two years ago, on SourceForge:

while they show fine in (probably, haven't checked but the main one) any
mutt-users mailing lis, contained in the following, old, email of mine:

WARNING: skip to 'WARNING END' for talk on Lurker
I mailed to Courier Maildrop list on SourceForge, in 2013: 

My standalone maildrop configuration files 
http://sourceforge.net/p/courier/mailman/message/31585709/ 
( the first message, and it seems some troubles SF has with web for
mail, you can only see it if you, near 2013-10-31 19:18:00, 
click on: 
Message as HTML which opens it...) 

But, luckily, I also mailed it to mutt-users Mailing List! Where find it
in the second of two messages: 

Namespace with/without on dovecot server on/off and issues 
http://marc.info/?l=mutt-users&m=138178557223737&w=2 

this one (of same subject line): 
http://marc.info/?l=mutt-users&m=138178696024182&w=2 
WARNING END

I have make more progress in my Lurker installation, and explanation.

Pls. go to:

Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7816588

And I'm not done yet.

Regards!

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo

[<mir...@cr...>]

On 150923-16:39+0200, mir...@cr... wrote:
> Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"
Pls. note (Wesley Terpstra didn't understand it in his summary reading
of my mails) that the title about the ebuild is not mine.

My method that I employed should work for any Linux, just like
./configure ; make ; make install do. But read the previous posts for
that.

> 
> And I'm not done yet.
> 

I have succeeded ion deploying what I needed Lurker for.

Have a look:

iskon-t-com-miro-rovis
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cenz/iskon-t-com-miro-rovis/

Iskon is my previous provider, T-com is my current provider. I have
posted there my correspondence with them, and doing it with Lurker has
allowed me to do it in better than I expected.

Now, I'm teasing the (few) readers of this mailing list a little.

Somebody give me a guess, or at least ask how I did it.

There is one program that is needed to get that archive there. Which
one, and how did I do it?

I mean, after correct deployment of Lirker, and importing the mailing
list (in my case just correspondence with my providers), what was
necessary to do to get the frozen snapshot and then archive it, and
decompress it on my NGO's site http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr where you can see
it published?

---
Also I posted about lurker-users ML troubles a little (about the SF that
does not show mails correctly, but it's not the main topic there) here:

TLS (SSL) tcp stream decoding in your traffic dumps?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1029408.html
(where SF wil feature in the screencast that I am, hopefully, yet to
post, at the time of writing this mail still not there)

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr