lurker-users

[Lurker-users] prevent languages being generated

[Adrian B. <ad...@sm...>]

Hi there, I've spent a while going through the documentation and even
the code but I'm stuck.

I'd like to stop lurker from generating all the languages in message/
and thread/ - I just want English.  Is this possible?

I've tried:
- setting all languages except "en" to "no" in /etc/lurker/ui/lang.xml
- removing all languages except "en" in /etc/lurker/ui/lang.xml
- removing all language files from /etc/lurker/ui except en.xml

Still no joy :-(   I'm trying to cut down how much we backup.

Thanks,

Adrian
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Re: [Lurker-users] prevent languages being generated

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Adrian Bridgett <ad...@sm...> wrote:

> Hi there, I've spent a while going through the documentation and even
> the code but I'm stuck.
>
> I'd like to stop lurker from generating all the languages in message/
> and thread/ - I just want English.  Is this possible?
>

Am I understanding correctly that you want lurker to refuse requests for
pages rendered with the UI elements in other languages?

Removing say the de.xml file will just make lurker fall back to English for
.de.html files. Setting 'no' in lang.xml will just remove it from the
language drop-down menu. You can't (easily) stop lurker from creating files
that people request. However, if you set the languages to 'no' in lang.xml,
presumably people will stop loading pages in other languages.

If you have files appearing in other languages in your cache, it's because
someone is actually loading pages in that language (or google found them).
That said, you might want to reconsider disabling the feature as people are
actually using it.

Still no joy :-(   I'm trying to cut down how much we backup.
>

Don't backup anything in the lurker >CACHE< folder. It will all be
regenerated on demand from the database. Also, if you have a lot of files in
your cache folder, you might want to confirm you run lurker-prune from a
cron job.

That said, if you still really want to forbid lurker from generating pages
with a non-en.html extension, you will need to edit the C++. In
render/main.cpp go to line 130 and add something along the lines of:

if (out.language != "en") error("Bad language", out.language, "Only English
is allowed.");

Re: [Lurker-users] prevent languages being generated

[Adrian B. <ad...@sm...>]

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 16:21:09 -0700 (-0700), Wesley W. Terpstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Adrian Bridgett <ad...@sm...> wrote:
[snip]
> Am I understanding correctly that you want lurker to refuse requests for
> pages rendered with the UI elements in other languages?

Many thanks for such a fast and helpful reply :-)

Not quite.  I should have explained more clearly.  Currently (lacking
any better information) I backup everything lurker touches:

7916    /var/www/lurker/attach
84      /var/www/lurker/imgs
4       /var/www/lurker/index.html
256     /var/www/lurker/list
0       /var/www/lurker/lurker.docroot
4       /var/www/lurker/mbox
85148   /var/www/lurker/message (pruned somewhat)
125132  /var/www/lurker/mindex
4       /var/www/lurker/search
68      /var/www/lurker/splash
66024   /var/www/lurker/thread (pruned somewhat)
0       /var/www/lurker/ui
4       /var/www/lurker/zap
63164   /var/lib/lurker/

> If you have files appearing in other languages in your cache, it's because
> someone is actually loading pages in that language (or google found them).
> That said, you might want to reconsider disabling the feature as people are
> actually using it.

Both message and thread directories contain *.ja.html, *.de.html etc -
I would like to stop these from being created.   I can't figure out
how to disable it though (ah, your instructions for main.cpp -
excellent - that's what I was after).  FYI lurker.conf says:

archive[en] = Hampshire LUG Mailing List Archive
 group = lists
     heading = Mailing Lists
         
     list = hampshire
     title       = Hampshire LUG
     language    = en
     address     = ham...@ma...
     link        = http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire
     description = Hampshire Linux User Group Mailing List.
                   This is the new public mailing list which replaced
                   a closed mailing list in November 2006.

> Don't backup anything in the lurker >CACHE< folder. It will all be
> regenerated on demand from the database. Also, if you have a lot of files in
> your cache folder, you might want to confirm you run lurker-prune from a
> cron job.

Looking at the lurker-prune manpage it sees to say the whole of
/var/www/lurker is the cache?  Is that correct?  To be honest if I can
drop the message/mindex/thread folders from teh backups that'd make a
huge difference (just backing it up to home).

lurker-prune is being called - all files are less than a day old.
Maybe it's just google scanning it all.

> That said, if you still really want to forbid lurker from generating pages
> with a non-en.html extension, you will need to edit the C++. In
> render/main.cpp go to line 130 and add something along the lines of:
> 
> if (out.language != "en") error("Bad language", out.language, "Only English
> is allowed.");

Fabulous, thanks!

Adrian
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Re: [Lurker-users] prevent languages being generated

[Wesley W. T. <we...@te...>]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Adrian Bridgett <ad...@sm...> wrote:

> Not quite.  I should have explained more clearly.  Currently (lacking
> any better information) I backup everything lurker touches:
>
> 7916    /var/www/lurker/attach
> 84      /var/www/lurker/imgs
> 4       /var/www/lurker/index.html
> 256     /var/www/lurker/list
> 0       /var/www/lurker/lurker.docroot
> 4       /var/www/lurker/mbox
> 85148   /var/www/lurker/message (pruned somewhat)
> 125132  /var/www/lurker/mindex
> 4       /var/www/lurker/search
> 68      /var/www/lurker/splash
> 66024   /var/www/lurker/thread (pruned somewhat)
> 0       /var/www/lurker/ui
> 4       /var/www/lurker/zap
> 63164   /var/lib/lurker/
>

The things you need to backup:
  /var/lib/lurker <-- the actual database
  /var/www/lurker/ui <-- the frontend
  /var/www/lurker/imgs <-- the icons
The rest is all just cache.

Looking at the lurker-prune manpage it sees to say the whole of
> /var/www/lurker is the cache?  Is that correct?


Mostly. See above.


>  To be honest if I can
> drop the message/mindex/thread folders from teh backups that'd make a
> huge difference (just backing it up to home).
>

It would also mean there is very little benefit to disabling foreign
languages.

Re: [Lurker-users] prevent languages being generated

[Adrian B. <ad...@sm...>]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 09:23:19 -0700 (-0700), Wesley W. Terpstra wrote:
> The things you need to backup:
>   /var/lib/lurker <-- the actual database
>   /var/www/lurker/ui <-- the frontend
>   /var/www/lurker/imgs <-- the icons
> The rest is all just cache.

That's fab :-) I really appreciate all your help!  My ADSL provider
will now stop yelling at me.

Adrian
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