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[Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: johny w. <joh...@gm...> - 2009-09-07 02:10:35

Anyone have success connecting to 1and1 imap servers?

I get no error on connecting, "connecting to server" displays for
about 30 seconds, but no folders. If I refresh folders OR status, I
get "unknown error".

Using logicmail 1.0.4 on pearl flip.

Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: Derek K. <dko...@lo...> - 2009-09-07 02:30:23

Pretty sure others have tried.
First recommendation would be grabbing the latest 1.1 (maintenance branch)
build, and trying that.  It does have some additional bug-fixes on top of
1.0.x.  I'll take this as another reminder to cut a release from it.  (the
only lacking thing is updated translations, so I should just put a flag in
the build process to disable them)

-Derek

On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 19:10:22 -0700, johny why <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> Anyone have success connecting to 1and1 imap servers?
> 
> I get no error on connecting, "connecting to server" displays for
> about 30 seconds, but no folders. If I refresh folders OR status, I
> get "unknown error".
> 
> Using logicmail 1.0.4 on pearl flip.
> 
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: johny w. <joh...@gm...> - 2009-09-07 03:29:21

I don't have a data plan. I am assuming logicmail connects to imap
servers in the same way that gmail for blackberry connects to gmail :
OTA. Right?

On 9/6/09, Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...> wrote:
> Pretty sure others have tried.
> First recommendation would be grabbing the latest 1.1 (maintenance branch)
> build, and trying that.  It does have some additional bug-fixes on top of
> 1.0.x.  I'll take this as another reminder to cut a release from it.  (the
> only lacking thing is updated translations, so I should just put a flag in
> the build process to disable them)
>
> -Derek
>
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 19:10:22 -0700, johny why <joh...@gm...> wrote:
>> Anyone have success connecting to 1and1 imap servers?
>>
>> I get no error on connecting, "connecting to server" displays for
>> about 30 seconds, but no folders. If I refresh folders OR status, I
>> get "unknown error".
>>
>> Using logicmail 1.0.4 on pearl flip.
>>
>>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: Derek K. <dko...@lo...> - 2009-09-07 11:39:11

Then that's probably your problem.  I have no idea how Gmail can connect without a data plan, but LogicMail can connect one of two ways:
- Direct TCP (I think this needs a data plan)
- Wi-Fi

Of course every carrier may define the term "data plan" differently, and it might still work for you.  I'd check the TCP settings on your device (its carrier-specific, but I offer some links on the project website FAQ) just to be sure, before giving up.

P.S. "OTA" just means "over-the-air", and doesn't really say anything about the half dozen or so network transports a BB can use: BIS-B, BES, Direct TCP, WAP, WAP2, WiFi, etc.

-Derek

On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 23:29:08 -0400, johny why wrote:
> I don't have a data plan. I am assuming logicmail connects to imap
> servers in the same way that gmail for blackberry connects to gmail :
> OTA. Right?
> 
> On 9/6/09, Derek Konigsberg <dkonigsberg@logicprobe.or> > Pretty sure others have tried.
> > First recommendation would be grabbing the latest 1.1 (maintenance branch)
> > build, and trying that.  It does have some additional bug-fixes on top of
> > 1.0.x.  I'll take this as another reminder to cut a release from it.  (the
> > only lacking thing is updated translations, so I should just put a flag in
> > the build process to disable them)
> >
> > -Derek
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 19:10:22 -0700, johny why <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> >> Anyone have success connecting to 1and1 imap servers?
> >>
> >> I get no error on connecting, "connecting to server" displays for
> >> about 30 seconds, but no folders. If I refresh folders OR status, I
> >> get "unknown error".
> >>
> >> Using logicmail 1.0.4 on pearl flip.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: johny w. <joh...@gm...> - 2009-09-07 15:55:06

i guess gmail-blackberry connects the same way operamini and googlesync
connect. no wifi needed, and i dont pay for any sort of data plan, i only
pay for voice and sms. operamini on my bb can browse the web anyplace, on
the freeway etc. how? can logic connect the same way?

opera's faq tells me operamini cannot connect without SOME sort of internet
connection, so my phone apparently has enough of one for operamini. under
operamini 'about', i see "connection type:mds-public", and "proxy url:
server4.operamini.com:80" and "deviceside=false". opera uses apn. my apn is
epc.TMobile.com. does any of this help?

thx

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...
> wrote:

> Then that's probably your problem.  I have no idea how Gmail can connect
> without a data plan, but LogicMail can connect one of two ways:
> - Direct TCP (I think this needs a data plan)
> - Wi-Fi
>
> Of course every carrier may define the term "data plan" differently, and it
> might still work for you.  I'd check the TCP settings on your device (its
> carrier-specific, but I offer some links on the project website FAQ) just to
> be sure, before giving up.
>
> P.S. "OTA" just means "over-the-air", and doesn't really say anything about
> the half dozen or so network transports a BB can use: BIS-B, BES, Direct
> TCP, WAP, WAP2, WiFi, etc.
>
> -Derek

Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: Derek K. <dko...@lo...> - 2009-09-07 16:00:05

That helps a little.  I recommend the following:
- Make sure the APN settings are configured in the BlackBerry's TCP 
configuration (in the Advanced section of the device's Options screen)
- Make sure the "Use MDS Proxy" option is enabled in the LogicMail 
configuration screens

That should "hopefully" get you something equivalent.

-Derek

On Monday 07 September 2009 11:54:59 am johny why wrote:
> i guess gmail-blackberry connects the same way operamini and googlesync
> connect. no wifi needed, and i dont pay for any sort of data plan, i only
> pay for voice and sms. operamini on my bb can browse the web anyplace, on
> the freeway etc. how? can logic connect the same way?
>
> opera's faq tells me operamini cannot connect without SOME sort of internet
> connection, so my phone apparently has enough of one for operamini. under
> operamini 'about', i see "connection type:mds-public", and "proxy url:
> server4.operamini.com:80" and "deviceside=false". opera uses apn. my apn is
> epc.TMobile.com. does any of this help?
>
> thx
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Derek Konigsberg
> <dko...@lo...
>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Then that's probably your problem.  I have no idea how Gmail can connect
> > without a data plan, but LogicMail can connect one of two ways:
> > - Direct TCP (I think this needs a data plan)
> > - Wi-Fi
> >
> > Of course every carrier may define the term "data plan" differently, and
> > it might still work for you.  I'd check the TCP settings on your device
> > (its carrier-specific, but I offer some links on the project website FAQ)
> > just to be sure, before giving up.
> >
> > P.S. "OTA" just means "over-the-air", and doesn't really say anything
> > about the half dozen or so network transports a BB can use: BIS-B, BES,
> > Direct TCP, WAP, WAP2, WiFi, etc.
> >
> > -Derek

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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: johny w. <joh...@gm...> - 2009-09-07 16:19:45

is it true that blackberry's built-in email app can connect to imap servers?
i don't see any imap config screen.

Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: Josh B. <jo...@jo...> - 2009-09-07 17:09:56

Only if you are using a Blackberry Enterprise server will IMAP work with the built in Blackberry email app.
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Sent from my BlackBerry.

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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:19:31 
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Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1


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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: George S. <ge...@mh...> - 2009-09-07 17:21:20

That's not true. I can configure my Blackberry Storm to connect to a
courier-imap server with no issues. Again, there's no folders but I do get
push of messages in the inbox.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Browning [mailto:jo...@jo...]
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:41 AM
> To: log...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1
> 
> Only if you are using a Blackberry Enterprise server will IMAP work
> with the built in Blackberry email app.
> -----------------------------------
> Sent from my BlackBerry.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: johny why <joh...@gm...>
> 
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:19:31
> To: <log...@li...>
> Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1
> 
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: George S. <ge...@mh...> - 2009-09-07 16:45:13

The blackberry storm just figures it out. It's not really very good IMAP
support because it doesn't give you access to folders. Basically, it just
pulls every message from your inbox onto your blackberry.

 

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
 <http://www.mhsoftware.com/> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

From: johny why [mailto:joh...@gm...] 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:20 AM
To: log...@li...
Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

 

is it true that blackberry's built-in email app can connect to imap servers?
i don't see any imap config screen.

Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1

From: Derek K. <dko...@lo...> - 2009-09-07 16:52:58

Actually, its more of a push, but its kinda like that.  Basically, you tell 
your carrier how to login to your e-mail.  Then, every 15 minutes*, it checks 
your inbox and pushes new message to the phone.

* Some e-mail services have slightly better integration and the push happens 
somewhat immediately.

-Derek

On Monday 07 September 2009 12:29:59 pm George Sexton wrote:
> The blackberry storm just figures it out. It's not really very good IMAP
> support because it doesn't give you access to folders. Basically, it just
> pulls every message from your inbox onto your blackberry.
>
>
>
> George Sexton
> MH Software, Inc.
>  <http://www.mhsoftware.com/> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> Voice: 303 438 9585
>
>
> From: johny why [mailto:joh...@gm...]
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:20 AM
> To: log...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1and1
>
>
>
> is it true that blackberry's built-in email app can connect to imap
> servers? i don't see any imap config screen.

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