logicmail-devel

[Logicmail-devel] Developing

[George S. <ge...@mh...>]

I'm using Logic Mail 2.0 development snapshot on my Storm, running OS
version 5.0. (Not that the OS Version matters).

Essentially, the 2.0 build is just horribly broken. Obvious functionality
just doesn't work. I mean things like deleting a message doesn't work at
all. Period. Not at all.

Another MAJOR hassle is that the subscribed folders feature isn't present in
2.0.

I'm willing to pitch in here, and start trying to fix some of these things
but I want to make sure my changes go back into the source tree.

I didn't see on the development page any information on how to contribute
changes that I make back to the source tree.

How is this done?

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc. - Home of Connect Daily Web Calendar
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

Re: [Logicmail-devel] Developing

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

George,
I'm glad you wrote, since I can definitely use the help.  Right now, I could 
divide the bulk of the work on the LogicMail code into the following 
categories:
1 - Death by a thousand papercuts
  - All these little nitpick issues that you're running into
2 - Development of major features
  - Offline message caching (active work-in-progress)
  - Network connection management (will be *much* easier in 5.0)
3 - UI cleanup and polish

As someone trying to use the development version in a practical setting, #1 is 
the highest priority to you, followed sometimes by #3 (because you're on a 
Storm).

As someone trying to make progress on the critical features for 2.0 to meet 
its goals, #2 is currently the highest priority to me, followed by the 
occasional bit of #3 (since its easier when I can't concentrate 110%).  I 
basically put aside work on #1 for a while so I could make progress on #2.

Now if you could help with all these nitpick issues and ironing out the kinks, 
that would be enormously helpful to me and the project.  I actually have a 
fairly detailed TO-DO list on a lot of this, and I really should put it online 
for everyone here to see.  (I normally keep it in Tomboy Notes, so I'll either 
export to HTML or see if they've made any progress with their web-service 
plans.)

Now, as to how to get started...

I've recently migrated the source tree to the 1.1 (beta) version of the 
BlackBerry Eclipse plugin.  It works a lot better than the old one.  You 
literally just open the workspace and import the projects, and that's it!  
None of the weird workarounds on my setup page for the 1.0 plugin.  I'll be 
updating my development setup page sometime soon, but it really is that 
simple.

So your first step is to grab the new Eclipse plugin:
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/devbetasoftware/javaplugin.jsp
(The download includes a full Eclipse 3.5, so you just need the one file)

Once you install it, run all the usual Eclipse updates.  Then add the 
BlackBerry update site:
http://www.blackberry.com/go/eclipseUpdate/3.5/java

Finally, using that update site, install more BlackBerry SDK versions than 
just the 5.0 it comes with.  I personally installed all of them, but the way 
my source tree is currently configured, I recommend the following:
v4.2, v4.6, v4.7, v5.0

When you're all ready, set your workspace root to whereever you checked out 
trunk, and import all the projects.  The new plugin lets you specify SDK/JDE 
version on a per-project basis, so I use 4.2.x for anything core, and newer 
versions for the platform support libraries.  (anything ending in a "T" is 
touchscreen-specific)

If you want to test on an OS 5.0 storm, use *all* the projects in your 9500 
simulator configuration.  (for an OS 5.0 Bold/Curve, everything but the 
projects ending in "T"...  Just remember that all 5.0 simulators run from the 
same directory, so switching between them could have strange effects if you 
don't clean things out)

(all this will find its way to the project website hopefully by this weekend)

Finally, as far as contributing things back goes, the best way is to e-mail me 
a patch or just the changed source files, and I'll merge it in.  As trunk 
stabilizes, I may eventually do this using tickets (like some of the 1.1 
contributions), but I'm not quite there yet.

P.S. The automated builds are currently disabled, since I haven't finished 
updating the build.xml file used for Ant.

Ok, this e-mail has gone on long enough for now, so we'll continue the 
discussion in follow-up e-mails.

-Derek

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 1:42:35 pm George Sexton wrote:
> I'm using Logic Mail 2.0 development snapshot on my Storm, running OS
> version 5.0. (Not that the OS Version matters).
> 
> Essentially, the 2.0 build is just horribly broken. Obvious functionality
> just doesn't work. I mean things like deleting a message doesn't work at
> all. Period. Not at all.
> 
> Another MAJOR hassle is that the subscribed folders feature isn't present
>  in 2.0.
> 
> I'm willing to pitch in here, and start trying to fix some of these things
> but I want to make sure my changes go back into the source tree.
> 
> I didn't see on the development page any information on how to contribute
> changes that I make back to the source tree.
> 
> How is this done?
> 
> George Sexton
> MH Software, Inc. - Home of Connect Daily Web Calendar
> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> Voice: 303 438 9585
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Logicmail-devel] Developing

[George S. <ge...@mh...>]

I'm taking a look at this now.

I downloaded eclipse, and followed the instructions there.

I used TortiseSVN to download the trunk from:

https://logicmail.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/logicmail/trunk

When I create a project for eclipse, the IDE shows errors. A class named
LogicMailResource doesn't resolve.

I looked in the directory created by TortiseSVN and there are no files name
*resource*.*

I'm the first to admit, I don't use Eclipse for Java development so I'm kind
of wandering around in the dark. Still, there are no files with that name. I
notice there are also no .properties files. I would have expected to see
some for captions and such.

Am I missing something here?

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Konigsberg [mailto:dko...@lo...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:53 PM
> To: log...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Logicmail-devel] Developing
> 
> George,
> I'm glad you wrote, since I can definitely use the help.  Right now, I
> could
> divide the bulk of the work on the LogicMail code into the following
> categories:
> 1 - Death by a thousand papercuts
>   - All these little nitpick issues that you're running into
> 2 - Development of major features
>   - Offline message caching (active work-in-progress)
>   - Network connection management (will be *much* easier in 5.0)
> 3 - UI cleanup and polish
> 
> As someone trying to use the development version in a practical
> setting, #1 is
> the highest priority to you, followed sometimes by #3 (because you're
> on a
> Storm).
> 
> As someone trying to make progress on the critical features for 2.0 to
> meet
> its goals, #2 is currently the highest priority to me, followed by the
> occasional bit of #3 (since its easier when I can't concentrate 110%).
> I
> basically put aside work on #1 for a while so I could make progress on
> #2.
> 
> Now if you could help with all these nitpick issues and ironing out the
> kinks,
> that would be enormously helpful to me and the project.  I actually
> have a
> fairly detailed TO-DO list on a lot of this, and I really should put it
> online
> for everyone here to see.  (I normally keep it in Tomboy Notes, so I'll
> either
> export to HTML or see if they've made any progress with their web-
> service
> plans.)
> 
> Now, as to how to get started...
> 
> I've recently migrated the source tree to the 1.1 (beta) version of the
> BlackBerry Eclipse plugin.  It works a lot better than the old one.
> You
> literally just open the workspace and import the projects, and that's
> it!
> None of the weird workarounds on my setup page for the 1.0 plugin.
> I'll be
> updating my development setup page sometime soon, but it really is that
> simple.
> 
> So your first step is to grab the new Eclipse plugin:
> http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/devbetasoftware/javaplugin.jsp
> (The download includes a full Eclipse 3.5, so you just need the one
> file)
> 
> Once you install it, run all the usual Eclipse updates.  Then add the
> BlackBerry update site:
> http://www.blackberry.com/go/eclipseUpdate/3.5/java
> 
> Finally, using that update site, install more BlackBerry SDK versions
> than
> just the 5.0 it comes with.  I personally installed all of them, but
> the way
> my source tree is currently configured, I recommend the following:
> v4.2, v4.6, v4.7, v5.0
> 
> When you're all ready, set your workspace root to whereever you checked
> out
> trunk, and import all the projects.  The new plugin lets you specify
> SDK/JDE
> version on a per-project basis, so I use 4.2.x for anything core, and
> newer
> versions for the platform support libraries.  (anything ending in a "T"
> is
> touchscreen-specific)
> 
> If you want to test on an OS 5.0 storm, use *all* the projects in your
> 9500
> simulator configuration.  (for an OS 5.0 Bold/Curve, everything but the
> projects ending in "T"...  Just remember that all 5.0 simulators run
> from the
> same directory, so switching between them could have strange effects if
> you
> don't clean things out)
> 
> (all this will find its way to the project website hopefully by this
> weekend)
> 
> Finally, as far as contributing things back goes, the best way is to e-
> mail me
> a patch or just the changed source files, and I'll merge it in.  As
> trunk
> stabilizes, I may eventually do this using tickets (like some of the
> 1.1
> contributions), but I'm not quite there yet.
> 
> P.S. The automated builds are currently disabled, since I haven't
> finished
> updating the build.xml file used for Ant.
> 
> Ok, this e-mail has gone on long enough for now, so we'll continue the
> discussion in follow-up e-mails.
> 
> -Derek
> 
> On Wednesday 25 November 2009 1:42:35 pm George Sexton wrote:
> > I'm using Logic Mail 2.0 development snapshot on my Storm, running OS
> > version 5.0. (Not that the OS Version matters).
> >
> > Essentially, the 2.0 build is just horribly broken. Obvious
> functionality
> > just doesn't work. I mean things like deleting a message doesn't work
> at
> > all. Period. Not at all.
> >
> > Another MAJOR hassle is that the subscribed folders feature isn't
> present
> >  in 2.0.
> >
> > I'm willing to pitch in here, and start trying to fix some of these
> things
> > but I want to make sure my changes go back into the source tree.
> >
> > I didn't see on the development page any information on how to
> contribute
> > changes that I make back to the source tree.
> >
> > How is this done?
> >
> > George Sexton
> > MH Software, Inc. - Home of Connect Daily Web Calendar
> > http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> > Voice: 303 438 9585
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Logicmail-devel] Developing

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

If you haven't reviewed them recently, these are the full (up-to-date) setup 
instructions:
http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail/wiki/development

The most important part is that you have to use the BlackBerry Java Plug-in 
for Eclipse installed when doing all of this.  The resource file its 
complaining about is code that is auto-generated behind the scenes by the 
plugin.  FYI, the new 1.1 plugin makes the process *much* more straightforward 
than the old 1.0 plugin.  You basically just checkout the whole thing, then 
import the projects into eclipse.

-Derek

On Sunday 03 January 2010 8:15:15 pm George Sexton wrote:
> I'm taking a look at this now.
> 
> I downloaded eclipse, and followed the instructions there.
> 
> I used TortiseSVN to download the trunk from:
> 
> https://logicmail.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/logicmail/trunk
> 
> When I create a project for eclipse, the IDE shows errors. A class named
> LogicMailResource doesn't resolve.
> 
> I looked in the directory created by TortiseSVN and there are no files name
> *resource*.*
> 
> I'm the first to admit, I don't use Eclipse for Java development so I'm
>  kind of wandering around in the dark. Still, there are no files with that
>  name. I notice there are also no .properties files. I would have expected
>  to see some for captions and such.
> 
> Am I missing something here?
> 
> George Sexton
> MH Software, Inc.
> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> Voice: 303 438 9585
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Derek Konigsberg [mailto:dko...@lo...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:53 PM
> > To: log...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Logicmail-devel] Developing
> >
> > George,
> > I'm glad you wrote, since I can definitely use the help.  Right now, I
> > could
> > divide the bulk of the work on the LogicMail code into the following
> > categories:
> > 1 - Death by a thousand papercuts
> >   - All these little nitpick issues that you're running into
> > 2 - Development of major features
> >   - Offline message caching (active work-in-progress)
> >   - Network connection management (will be *much* easier in 5.0)
> > 3 - UI cleanup and polish
> >
> > As someone trying to use the development version in a practical
> > setting, #1 is
> > the highest priority to you, followed sometimes by #3 (because you're
> > on a
> > Storm).
> >
> > As someone trying to make progress on the critical features for 2.0 to
> > meet
> > its goals, #2 is currently the highest priority to me, followed by the
> > occasional bit of #3 (since its easier when I can't concentrate 110%).
> > I
> > basically put aside work on #1 for a while so I could make progress on
> > #2.
> >
> > Now if you could help with all these nitpick issues and ironing out the
> > kinks,
> > that would be enormously helpful to me and the project.  I actually
> > have a
> > fairly detailed TO-DO list on a lot of this, and I really should put it
> > online
> > for everyone here to see.  (I normally keep it in Tomboy Notes, so I'll
> > either
> > export to HTML or see if they've made any progress with their web-
> > service
> > plans.)
> >
> > Now, as to how to get started...
> >
> > I've recently migrated the source tree to the 1.1 (beta) version of the
> > BlackBerry Eclipse plugin.  It works a lot better than the old one.
> > You
> > literally just open the workspace and import the projects, and that's
> > it!
> > None of the weird workarounds on my setup page for the 1.0 plugin.
> > I'll be
> > updating my development setup page sometime soon, but it really is that
> > simple.
> >
> > So your first step is to grab the new Eclipse plugin:
> > http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/devbetasoftware/javaplugin.jsp
> > (The download includes a full Eclipse 3.5, so you just need the one
> > file)
> >
> > Once you install it, run all the usual Eclipse updates.  Then add the
> > BlackBerry update site:
> > http://www.blackberry.com/go/eclipseUpdate/3.5/java
> >
> > Finally, using that update site, install more BlackBerry SDK versions
> > than
> > just the 5.0 it comes with.  I personally installed all of them, but
> > the way
> > my source tree is currently configured, I recommend the following:
> > v4.2, v4.6, v4.7, v5.0
> >
> > When you're all ready, set your workspace root to whereever you checked
> > out
> > trunk, and import all the projects.  The new plugin lets you specify
> > SDK/JDE
> > version on a per-project basis, so I use 4.2.x for anything core, and
> > newer
> > versions for the platform support libraries.  (anything ending in a "T"
> > is
> > touchscreen-specific)
> >
> > If you want to test on an OS 5.0 storm, use *all* the projects in your
> > 9500
> > simulator configuration.  (for an OS 5.0 Bold/Curve, everything but the
> > projects ending in "T"...  Just remember that all 5.0 simulators run
> > from the
> > same directory, so switching between them could have strange effects if
> > you
> > don't clean things out)
> >
> > (all this will find its way to the project website hopefully by this
> > weekend)
> >
> > Finally, as far as contributing things back goes, the best way is to e-
> > mail me
> > a patch or just the changed source files, and I'll merge it in.  As
> > trunk
> > stabilizes, I may eventually do this using tickets (like some of the
> > 1.1
> > contributions), but I'm not quite there yet.
> >
> > P.S. The automated builds are currently disabled, since I haven't
> > finished
> > updating the build.xml file used for Ant.
> >
> > Ok, this e-mail has gone on long enough for now, so we'll continue the
> > discussion in follow-up e-mails.
> >
> > -Derek
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 November 2009 1:42:35 pm George Sexton wrote:
> > > I'm using Logic Mail 2.0 development snapshot on my Storm, running OS
> > > version 5.0. (Not that the OS Version matters).
> > >
> > > Essentially, the 2.0 build is just horribly broken. Obvious
> >
> > functionality
> >
> > > just doesn't work. I mean things like deleting a message doesn't work
> >
> > at
> >
> > > all. Period. Not at all.
> > >
> > > Another MAJOR hassle is that the subscribed folders feature isn't
> >
> > present
> >
> > >  in 2.0.
> > >
> > > I'm willing to pitch in here, and start trying to fix some of these
> >
> > things
> >
> > > but I want to make sure my changes go back into the source tree.
> > >
> > > I didn't see on the development page any information on how to
> >
> > contribute
> >
> > > changes that I make back to the source tree.
> > >
> > > How is this done?
> > >
> > > George Sexton
> > > MH Software, Inc. - Home of Connect Daily Web Calendar
> > > http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> > > Voice: 303 438 9585
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > dko...@lo...
> > ---------------------------
> >
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