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From: Amar G. <ama...@gm...> - 2005-09-06 17:28:31
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Hi...! As the administrator knows that I am a novice in programming, eventhough I= =20 am trying hard to be worth something...I am studying the code and feel that= =20 there may be some changes. But the reall problem I am facing is in using th= e=20 CVS. I am new to the SourceForge.net. If any of the developer in our team= =20 can please halp me out in the above, please so it. I am very much intereste= d=20 in the project since the beginning and have been working hard. So I request= =20 that please let me continue as that will certainly help me out in getting= =20 some experience in software developement. I am still a student of Computer= =20 Engineering and see myself to be in the process of learning. Regards... Amar Gautam --=20 This mail is from Amar Gautam [CapC] |
From: Greg T. <gre...@ya...> - 2005-09-05 05:10:55
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Hello, Vageli. I have been working hard at restructuring the code. Until I am done, there is little point in posting via CVS. Also, I'm going to gt Geoff's help in installing an effective CVS implementation for Windows before using it. As to a GUI, it's best to only use a console interface for now until our class structures are solid and our functionality is more or less complete. - Greg --- Vageli Mouzakitis <com...@ya...> wrote: > Okay we have to start getting down to business. I > think a primary objective is deciding on both a GUI > library and an encryption library. I also think > that > a developer pruning is needed because I have not > heard > from many people since the beginning of the project. > > I noticed that there have been no updates to the > code > in the CVS. With 8 developers on the team, I don't > see why no work has been done yet. I would like to > see development done..if no one is going to do any > work I might as well revert to my old ways and just > go > at it alone (or with the help of a couple people). > > Finally, there is a new mailing list up (it has been > up for a while now) that can be used to provide news > to users. Examples of valid mailings would be to > notify users of a release or update. > > Let's get some work done. > > -- > Vageli Mouzakitis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Vageli M. <com...@ya...> - 2005-09-05 05:04:56
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Okay we have to start getting down to business. I think a primary objective is deciding on both a GUI library and an encryption library. I also think that a developer pruning is needed because I have not heard from many people since the beginning of the project. I noticed that there have been no updates to the code in the CVS. With 8 developers on the team, I don't see why no work has been done yet. I would like to see development done..if no one is going to do any work I might as well revert to my old ways and just go at it alone (or with the help of a couple people). Finally, there is a new mailing list up (it has been up for a while now) that can be used to provide news to users. Examples of valid mailings would be to notify users of a release or update. Let's get some work done. -- Vageli Mouzakitis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-09-01 18:47:15
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Regarding the code beautifier, the program "indent" will do it. You can make indent format code pretty much however you want it, by passing different command line options to it. I'm not hugely familiar with the use of indent, but I can check it out and see what options we would need to use for it. Also, running the beautifier before each upload would probably be overkill. Maybe just run the entire project through it every couple of weeks, and before a release is made. For the vote on camelback notation, I don't care much. I use it out of habit, but I'm okay with not using it too. In terms of libraries for cryptographic functions, we need to consider that these libraries are probably written in a more secure and accurate way than something that we would write - and I believe both cryptlib and crypto++ provide source code - we wouldn't be statically linking, we'd just be using their code (cryptlib usus the sleepycat licence, which ends up being almost the same as the GPL for OpenSource projects). In addition, using a library would allow us to present more encryption options to the user, and would allow us to procede to an second major release more quickly. These libraries have been thoroughly checked for security flaws, and are widely used. Unless the person doing the bulk of the coding on our encryption algorithms has a background in cryptography, in is unlikely that we would be able to produce code of that caliber without quite a lot of work. It just seems like re-inventing the wheel for no reason. These are my thoughts, anyway. --Matt |
From: Fane H. <fa...@fa...> - 2005-09-01 06:17:59
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Although I am just the (new) web designer not a developer, I should mention: Regarding Alexander's concern about the software on new versions of Windows, note that I have an MSDN subscription at work, which means I have a legal copy of Longhorn Beta 1 (Windows Vista/2006). If you guys need something tested for Windows Vista, let me know. (Although I may switch jobs soon, and lose access to that). Of course, I think that pretty much anything that runs on XP should run on Vista. Fane www.fanehenderson.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vageli Mouzakitis" <com...@ya...> To: <log...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: [Logic-security-developers] Clarifications > Okay it seems like there is a lot of clarification > needed. Also, I am fully recovered and can now devote > my time to this project. > > For starters, I do not see a .NET port in the cards at > this time. I would like to see the fulfillment of the > objectives laid out in the roadmap. Do you have any > particular reason why there should be a port to .NET? > Does it offer any significant advantages over the > current language? > > Secondly, after reading Greg's comments in the forum, > I think that we should create some script that will > act as a "beautifier". We would run our code through > it before uploading to the CVS. If anyone is > interested in writing one that adheres to the > programming guide lines, start a thread in the forum. > > Note to Greg: I personally dislike camel notation but > we could take a vote and see how many people would > like to institute it in place of the current > convention. > > Finally, concerning the use of libraries; I do not > think libraries are an absolute must. If we can find > an implementation in a regular source file we could > use that instead. All I want is the implementation of > different algorithms, it doesn't matter how it is > done. > > Note to All: You should all consider monitoring the > developers forum so you can stay on top of posts > there. > > I hope this clears up a few things. > > -- > Vageli Mouzakitis > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Logic-security-developers mailing list > Log...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logic-security-developers > |
From: Vageli M. <com...@ya...> - 2005-09-01 05:28:03
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Okay it seems like there is a lot of clarification needed. Also, I am fully recovered and can now devote my time to this project. For starters, I do not see a .NET port in the cards at this time. I would like to see the fulfillment of the objectives laid out in the roadmap. Do you have any particular reason why there should be a port to .NET? Does it offer any significant advantages over the current language? Secondly, after reading Greg's comments in the forum, I think that we should create some script that will act as a "beautifier". We would run our code through it before uploading to the CVS. If anyone is interested in writing one that adheres to the programming guide lines, start a thread in the forum. Note to Greg: I personally dislike camel notation but we could take a vote and see how many people would like to institute it in place of the current convention. Finally, concerning the use of libraries; I do not think libraries are an absolute must. If we can find an implementation in a regular source file we could use that instead. All I want is the implementation of different algorithms, it doesn't matter how it is done. Note to All: You should all consider monitoring the developers forum so you can stay on top of posts there. I hope this clears up a few things. -- Vageli Mouzakitis ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs |
From: Greg T. <gre...@ya...> - 2005-09-01 01:26:18
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Hello, Alexander. Although I haven't used any crypto libraries yet, I'm familiar with the general ins and outs of using Windows libraries, and would gladly help you to create a suitable interface to them. I don't think .NET is a great idea right now, as we have a lot on our hands already. (Personally, if Microsoft rejects C win32 in favour of exclusive .NET when future Windows SDKs are released, I'm switching over to Linux and not looking back.) Perhaps we could try a .NET port after we have finished a release in C. - Greg Toombs --- Alexander Batzios <ba...@gm...> wrote: > Hi everybody, > This is my first email to the list as I've been a > bit busy these last > weeks, but now I'm ready to actually contribute > something! > I wanted to ask if anyone is doing any work > regarding the crypto > algorithms. The existing algorithms in the project > were developed by Vangeli > himself, and after talking to him, he agreed it > might be a good idea to > include some of the well known algorithms such as > AES (Rijndael) or RSA. > I am currently trying to use the Crypto++ library > and (in case I don't > manage to do it, because there isn't really any > documentation in the lib) I > have found a source code implementation of AES > (C++). I am quite familiar > with cryptography (in that I've used almost every > algorithm) but I'm not as > familiar with C++ :) Anyway, if there is anyone who > is currently working or > encryption or would like to work on that, then maybe > we could help each > other out. > Also, what are your thoughts on a .NET version of > the suite (you know, for > the next version(s) of Windows, which are supposed > to be based on .NET). > Take care, > Alex __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-08-31 22:00:30
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If you're having trouble with the lack of documentation for Crypto++, you could always look into Cryptlib and see if it suits you better. Regarding a .NET version, my thoughts are that the core of the project should remain non platform-specific, and that if we design our ADTs correctly, we should just be able to swap in an interface class for each system we wish to compile on. In addition, the next version of windows will still support current windows API methods (this wasn't going to be the case originally, but they have since changed that decision). I'm currently trying to go through and figure out which headers are needed by the various files. There are also some functions which could probably be completely removed from the source tree, as they're not very useful. --Matt |
From: Alexander B. <ba...@gm...> - 2005-08-31 19:37:19
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Hi everybody, This is my first email to the list as I've been a bit busy these last=20 weeks, but now I'm ready to actually contribute something! I wanted to ask if anyone is doing any work regarding the crypto=20 algorithms. The existing algorithms in the project were developed by Vangel= i=20 himself, and after talking to him, he agreed it might be a good idea to=20 include some of the well known algorithms such as AES (Rijndael) or RSA. I am currently trying to use the Crypto++ library and (in case I don't=20 manage to do it, because there isn't really any documentation in the lib) I= =20 have found a source code implementation of AES (C++). I am quite familiar= =20 with cryptography (in that I've used almost every algorithm) but I'm not as= =20 familiar with C++ :) Anyway, if there is anyone who is currently working or= =20 encryption or would like to work on that, then maybe we could help each=20 other out. Also, what are your thoughts on a .NET version of the suite (you know, for= =20 the next version(s) of Windows, which are supposed to be based on .NET). Take care, Alex |
From: Amar G. <ama...@gm...> - 2005-08-31 07:14:14
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Hi, I went through the Ultimate++ website. It seems impressive. I am going to= =20 download it soon. Let me see if I can work on that. There is a little bit o= f=20 documentation available. Else we can start a thread in the forum to share= =20 more information about it. I am looking into the codes presently. Lets see= =20 if I can be of some help in near future. We can certainly port the project to linux. I will go through it and=20 respond in the forum. regards Amar Gautam On 8/31/05, log...@li... < log...@li...> wrote:=20 >=20 > Send Logic-security-developers mailing list submissions to > log...@li... >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logic-security-developers >=20 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > log...@li... >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > log...@li... >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Logic-security-developers digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. GUI Toolkits (com...@ya...) >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:17:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: "com...@ya..." <com...@ya...> > To: log...@li... > Subject: [Logic-security-developers] GUI Toolkits >=20 > I am still out, but feeling a little better; well > enough to type out this email before I go to sleep. >=20 > I have been wondering which GUI toolkit we will be > using for the frontend of the project. I am not a fan > of the WinAPI, and I want to keep the code as portable > as possible. I have never before used a GUI toolkit > and am open to any/all suggestions. Something has > caught my eye, however. A project by the name of > Ultimate++ (http://upp.sourceforge.net/) seems to be a > viable toolkit; it even includes its own IDE. The > project page does note that there is a lack of > documentation available but nonetheless..The project > looks pretty good to me. Anyone else want to check it > out? >=20 > Also, I would like to know exactly who is interested > in porting the project. The way to tell me this is to > respond to the "Linux" thread in the developer forum. > It would be helpful to also list what functions you > would especially like to port. >=20 > Finally, welcome to our latest member: gregtoombs aka > Greg. I don't think there has been much work on the > project up until this point and maybe a new face can > get us to start working. >=20 > IMPORTANT: I am thinking about pruning our list of > developers. I really do not like to have to do this > but I do not want people on the team that aren't > working. >=20 > Let's get started on the next release :) >=20 > -- > Vageli Mouzakitis >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Logic-security-developers mailing list > Log...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logic-security-developers >=20 >=20 > End of Logic-security-developers Digest >=20 --=20 This mail is from Amar Gautam [CapC] |
From: <com...@ya...> - 2005-08-30 07:17:57
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I am still out, but feeling a little better; well enough to type out this email before I go to sleep. I have been wondering which GUI toolkit we will be using for the frontend of the project. I am not a fan of the WinAPI, and I want to keep the code as portable as possible. I have never before used a GUI toolkit and am open to any/all suggestions. Something has caught my eye, however. A project by the name of Ultimate++ (http://upp.sourceforge.net/) seems to be a viable toolkit; it even includes its own IDE. The project page does note that there is a lack of documentation available but nonetheless..The project looks pretty good to me. Anyone else want to check it out? Also, I would like to know exactly who is interested in porting the project. The way to tell me this is to respond to the "Linux" thread in the developer forum. It would be helpful to also list what functions you would especially like to port. Finally, welcome to our latest member: gregtoombs aka Greg. I don't think there has been much work on the project up until this point and maybe a new face can get us to start working. IMPORTANT: I am thinking about pruning our list of developers. I really do not like to have to do this but I do not want people on the team that aren't working. Let's get started on the next release :) -- Vageli Mouzakitis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-08-26 22:13:12
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I've committed a makefile to the project CVS which should be able to tell us what's working an what's broken for linux. I don't have access to a windows compiler, and I removed some include statements from includes.h that Vageli said weren't being used anymore - this may break things. In the interests of cleaning up the code, I think that we should begin moving include statements out of includes.h and into the cpp files as needed - this will make it much easier to tell where the most work has to go for porting, and it will allow us to easily determine which libraries we need once we begin consolidating the functions into classes. One point that I wanted to maybe discuss before we get any farther, is should we be trying to make classes out of this code at all, or should we begin coding the next version of the project in an OO manner, starting from the ground up? What are your thoughts on this? --Matt |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-08-24 15:54:21
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Also, you must authenticate via ssh, not the default pserver method. In windows, this requires you to have a tool like the PuTTY suite installed. --Matt |
From: <com...@ya...> - 2005-08-24 15:05:50
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The cvsroot is "log-sec" not "Logical-Security" as described in the previous post to the mailing list. -- Vageli Mouzakitis __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 |
From: Jason C. <bn...@ya...> - 2005-08-24 14:59:36
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You may try a GUI version of CVS called WINCVS. You may download it from this website: www.wincvs.org Here are the settings: CVSROOT: use...@cv.../cvsroot/logical-security After you login you can download a "copy" of the source by "Check out" function I hope this helps --- Amar Gautam <ama...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Matt, > I have downloaded the source code. Then I am > viewing it. Well, but am I > suppose to download a GUI for CVS? I am new to > source forge. If I have to > download some software to operate on CVS, please > give the link. > Regards, > Amar Gautam > > -- > This mail is from Amar Gautam [CapC] > Regards, Jason Chan __________________ bn...@ya... |
From: Amar G. <ama...@gm...> - 2005-08-24 08:46:11
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Hi Matt, I have downloaded the source code. Then I am viewing it. Well, but am I=20 suppose to download a GUI for CVS? I am new to source forge. If I have to= =20 download some software to operate on CVS, please give the link.=20 Regards, Amar Gautam =20 --=20 This mail is from Amar Gautam [CapC] |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-08-23 23:39:51
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How are you trying to connect to CVS? Through a command line interface, or through a GUI of some sort? The command you are looking for is "commit". You have to Check Out a copy of the code first (not through the web interface), before you can make changes to it. -Matt |
From: Amar G. <ama...@gm...> - 2005-08-23 19:21:26
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Hi!,=20 I have already gon through the source code. I am taking up the job of=20 cleaning the code. Well, but there is a problem with me. I am unable to=20 understand how to work with CVS. If I make some changes to the code, how=20 could I submit it back. Please help me. Regards, Amar Gautam =20 --=20 This mail is from Amar Gautam [CapC] |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-08-22 23:05:33
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Ok, let's get some stuff started. I am working on getting the project to work under linux. I should have a nice, simple makefile for the project posted to cvs either this evening or tomorrow night. The first issue that comes to mind is the use of the conio.h and dos.h headers. They need to be taken out, and the parts of the project that rely on them need to be re-written. We're not trying to port the project here, because most of it is fairly standard. We're just trying to take out the stuff that will cause it to be limited to one platform. Once we get a lot of work done for the next release, we can probably expect that some system-specific stuff is going to be added in for functionality on the target platforms. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on this process? In addition, we should probably start discussing how we would like to break the program down into classes. Has everyone had a chance to go through the source and get a feel for it yet? -Matt |
From: <com...@ya...> - 2005-08-20 17:18:49
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Due to the fact that I am not allowed to read anything (because it will strain my eyes) let alone use a computer, I have set Matt (zxaos) as a temporary project admin. He will be the admin until I get back which should be in about 4 days..Thanks for understanding. -- Vageli Mouzakitis ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs |
From: <com...@ya...> - 2005-08-19 19:38:52
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I will be going on hiatus for apporx 5 days (as per doctor's orders) because I have sustained a serious eye injury (internal bleeding behind the cornea. During this time, I am not allowed to read, and thus cannot use the computer. I am sorry for any inconvenience. -- Vageli Mouzakitis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: <com...@ya...> - 2005-08-18 04:18:33
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The programming conventions document has been revised. All developers should be sure to read it, because it lists new conventions that are going to be used. Please adhere to the guildines laid out within the doc so that it will be much easier to work together. If you have any questions, email me (com...@ya...). -- Vageli Mouzakitis ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs |
From: <com...@ya...> - 2005-08-17 00:17:50
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I have been working on this project by myself for a long time, but I am so glad that I found so many people willing to contribute. Here's a basic rundown on some project goals: 1.The project will be broken down into classes, with each class residing in its own program (ie encryption class goes into "enc.exe", etc). 2.The project will be ported to linux (someone should start a thread on the developer forum and discuss this). 3.The main GUI will be a wrapper that uses all of the seperate (command line) programs. Other stuff not-related to the above: 1.All developers have received the following permissions: Project News Editor, Tracker Technician, and Screenshot Editor. Please do not abuse these priveleges. 2.Hopefully, all of you have got the CVS working. The new code is in the folder "log-sec", the other folder is obsolete. 3.New documentation should be coming out soon. 4.Everyone should choose a specific thing that they would like to work on. Consult the roadmap and see if anything interests you, or just tell me an idea you have and we could see if we could use it. 5.If there are any questions, please respond to me and not the list (com...@ya...). -- Vageli Mouzakitis ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs |
From: G M B. <bo...@uo...> - 2005-08-16 00:48:44
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The new project cvs files are up. To access them, simply checkout a copy. The command is (assuming that you've already told cvs to use SSH authentication...) cvs -d :ext:(yourusername)@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/logical-security co log-sec The current release has been tagged RELEASE_1-0-1 . Please use comments explaining what changes you have made when you commit changes to the repository. Please use all lowercase filenames when adding files to the repository, to keep it consistant. Please try to make sure that your changes don't break the project. Please have the project done by tomorrow... just kidding. Vageli, could you please send a request to the sf.net team, requesting a removal of the old "Logical Security" folder in the CVS? It's empty now. If anyone has any questions about how to use the CVS system, let me know, and I'll try to address them. --Matt |