From: Roger P. <rog...@ea...> - 2003-03-06 12:10:58
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Hi all! In Log4perl the default date format is "YYYY/MM/DD HH:mm::ss". In log4j it seems to be "YYYY-MM-dd HH:mm:ss,SSS" (ISO8601) Why not use the same default format as log4j? At least a comment about this in the docs would be nice. /Roger P |
From: Mike S. <msc...@ao...> - 2003-03-06 18:41:12
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rog...@ea... wrote: > Hi all! > > In Log4perl the default date format is "YYYY/MM/DD HH:mm::ss". In > log4j it seems to be "YYYY-MM-dd HH:mm:ss,SSS" (ISO8601) Why not use > the same default format as log4j? At least a comment about this in the > docs would be nice. Problem with ",SSS" is that it's a standard Java feature but it's only available in Perl if Time::HiRes is installed. Regarding slashes vs. dashes, I'm flexible, though. Only drawback is that if we change it, some people's log files will change which might cause some headache for post processors they might have in place. Votes? -- -- Mike Mike Schilli log...@pe... |
From: Kevin G. <ke...@go...> - 2003-03-07 04:47:25
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> > In Log4perl the default date format is "YYYY/MM/DD HH:mm::ss". In > > log4j it seems to be "YYYY-MM-dd HH:mm:ss,SSS" (ISO8601) Why not use > > the same default format as log4j? At least a comment about this in the > > docs would be nice. > > Problem with ",SSS" is that it's a standard Java feature but it's only > available in Perl if Time::HiRes is installed. Regarding slashes vs. > dashes, I'm flexible, though. Only drawback is that if we change it, > some people's log files will change which might cause some headache for > post processors they might have in place. Votes? I'm all for conformity, but 1) can someone point me to where log4j defines that as the default? I can't find it. We do match their ISO8601 behavior with "%d{ISO8601}". 2) the java SimpleDateFormat (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/text/SimpleDateFormat.html) defines "y" but not "Y". Both log4perl and log4j seem to go back and forth between YYYY and yyyy, what's up with that, are they really interchangeable? 3) if that is the log4j default, we could add the ,SSS if Time::HiRes is installed. 4) if we do change, should note it prominently somewhere I guess -- Happy Trails. . . Kevin M. Goess (and Anne and Frank) 904 Carmel Ave. Albany, CA 94706 (510)525-5217 |
From: Roger P. <rog...@ea...> - 2003-03-07 08:53:45
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Kevin Goess wrote: >>>In Log4perl the default date format is "YYYY/MM/DD HH:mm::ss". In >>>log4j it seems to be "YYYY-MM-dd HH:mm:ss,SSS" (ISO8601) Why not use >>>the same default format as log4j? At least a comment about this in the >>>docs would be nice. >>> >>> >>Problem with ",SSS" is that it's a standard Java feature but it's only >>available in Perl if Time::HiRes is installed. Regarding slashes vs. >>dashes, I'm flexible, though. Only drawback is that if we change it, >>some people's log files will change which might cause some headache for >>post processors they might have in place. Votes? >> >> > >I'm all for conformity, but > >1) can someone point me to where log4j defines that as the default? I >can't find it. We do match their ISO8601 behavior with "%d{ISO8601}". > http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/manual.html Search for "ISO 8601 format" and you will find a sample with the d% option. I'm not suggesting that the manual is any authority in this matter though :-) . Haven't actually tested it in log4j. Personally I will use %d{yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss} so I don't care much. However the log4perl docs claims that the standard formats are much faster (less string processing?). > > >2) the java SimpleDateFormat >(http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/text/SimpleDateFormat.html) >defines "y" but not "Y". Both log4perl and log4j seem to go back and >forth between YYYY and yyyy, what's up with that, are they really >interchangeable? > YYYY doesn't work in log4perl. The pod should be updated. > >3) if that is the log4j default, we could add the ,SSS if Time::HiRes is >installed. > >4) if we do change, should note it prominently somewhere I guess > Even if it isn't changed, a note about the difference would be nice. In http://log4perl.sourceforge.net/releases/Log-Log4perl/docs/html/Log/Log4perl/Layout/PatternLayout.html under "description" >The new() method creates a new PatternLayout, specifying its log format. The format string can contain a number of placeholders which will be replaced by the logging engine when it's time to log the message: > > %c Category of the logging event. > %C Fully qualified package (or class) name of the caller > %d Current date in yyyy/MM/dd hh:mm:ss format [snip] > %x The topmost NDC (see below) > %X{key} The entry 'key' of the MDC (see below) > %% A literal percent (%) sign > Note: In log4j, the default format for %d is "yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss,SSS" (ISO8601) >NDC and MDC are explained in Nested Diagnostic Context (NDC) in the Log::Log4perl manpage and Mapped Diagnostic Context (MDC) in the Log::Log4perl manpage. > >Quantify placeholders |