From: Dan M. <al...@gm...> - 2013-04-04 19:34:37
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Hi Robert and the musers! (another band name for you?) I'm happy to see Robert recently added a metronome icon to the transport in the main muse window and if I'm reading the svn logs correctly then it looks like we can now close: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3602273&group_id=93414&atid=604225 which was my request to add pitching to simpledrums. Thanks v.much Robert! Now the bad bit. I hate to admit it but I've got sick of waiting for an open source DAW I'm happy with and I've ended up using REAPER under wine! Its a shame but I think I'm hopeful that maybe later this year I'll be able to use MusE instead as its the closest to having the features I need in a DAW. My wishes are few. I'd like to see this request get resolved: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595675&group_id=93414&atid=604225 I'd like to see native VST support added to the FX rack and with a bit more polish I think I can return to my all FLOSS music production quest! Thanks again - keep up the great work! Dan |
From: Robert J. <spa...@gm...> - 2013-04-05 11:12:58
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Hi Dan, 2013/4/4 Dan MacDonald <al...@gm...>: > Hi Robert and the musers! (another band name for you?) > Hehe, I'll add it to the list ;) > I'm happy to see Robert recently added a metronome icon to the transport in > the main muse window and if I'm reading the svn logs correctly then it looks > like we can now close: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3602273&group_id=93414&atid=604225 > > which was my request to add pitching to simpledrums. Thanks v.much Robert! Right, I think it needs some work to be really useful but it got me going and was really fun to use the end result! > > Now the bad bit. I hate to admit it but I've got sick of waiting for an open > source DAW I'm happy with and I've ended up using REAPER under wine! Its a > shame but I think I'm hopeful that maybe later this year I'll be able to use > MusE instead as its the closest to having the features I need in a DAW. Don't feel bad, do some music that we can listen to that's about all I personally ask :) I have tried Reaper at times and it seems pretty feature complete, it's just a pain to understand IMHO.. I saw there were rumors about a native linux version, we'll see what that amounts to. MusE is a labor of love, it may be slow at times but it won't stop so you are free to check us out at a later time. > > My wishes are few. I'd like to see this request get resolved: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595675&group_id=93414&atid=604225 > Indeed, if that doesn't work it should really be added. I'll take a look. > I'd like to see native VST support added to the FX rack and with a bit more > polish I think I can return to my all FLOSS music production quest! > Indeed that would be a treat, we'll get there! Regards, Robert |
From: Dan M. <al...@gm...> - 2013-04-05 11:41:50
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Hi Robert! On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Robert Jonsson <spa...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > 2013/4/4 Dan MacDonald <al...@gm...>: > > Hi Robert and the musers! (another band name for you?) > > > > Hehe, I'll add it to the list ;) > > > I'm happy to see Robert recently added a metronome icon to the transport > in > > the main muse window and if I'm reading the svn logs correctly then it > looks > > like we can now close: > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3602273&group_id=93414&atid=604225 > > > > which was my request to add pitching to simpledrums. Thanks v.much > Robert! > > Right, I think it needs some work to be really useful but it got me > going and was really fun to use the end result! > Cool! I'll have to try it myself asap > > > > > Now the bad bit. I hate to admit it but I've got sick of waiting for an > open > > source DAW I'm happy with and I've ended up using REAPER under wine! Its > a > > shame but I think I'm hopeful that maybe later this year I'll be able to > use > > MusE instead as its the closest to having the features I need in a DAW. > > Don't feel bad, do some music that we can listen to that's about all I > personally ask :) > I can promise it'll be listenable but as soon as I manage a full Muse track I'll be happy to share it with you all. I tried Muse svn a few weeks back and I was getting xruns when only recording 1 audio track with no plugins. qtractor hummed along fine with no xruns with the same JACK settings. This is the polish but I was referring to. > I have tried Reaper at times and it seems pretty feature complete, > it's just a pain to understand IMHO.. I saw there were rumors about a > native linux version, we'll see what that amounts to. > Best not get our hopes too high for the native Linux version as its not a priority for Cockos. I find REAPER pretty intuitive - I know I worked it out easier than any of the Linux DAWs and managed to find everything I needed without reading the manual or having to ask on their forums. > MusE is a labor of love, it may be slow at times but it won't stop so > you are free to check us out at a later time. > Of course. Its very impressive considering. Same goes for qtractor. > > > > > My wishes are few. I'd like to see this request get resolved: > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595675&group_id=93414&atid=604225 > > > > Indeed, if that doesn't work it should really be added. I'll take a look. > > Excellent! Thanks v.much Robert! |
From: Geoff B. <ge...@la...> - 2013-04-05 21:10:40
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On 04/05/2013 10:41 PM, Dan MacDonald wrote: > > I tried Muse svn a few weeks back and I was getting xruns when only > recording 1 audio track with no plugins Hey Dan. This isn't MusE believe me. I record/playback/mix everything in MusE these days with 4 audio cards in one machine giving 40 chnnels of audio I/O and mutiple midi devices etc etc and no x-run madness other than what the alsa multi plug induces under SMP (and they are non destructive anyway) so if there was an issue like this I would have found it long ago. The basic problem with Linux per se is that a certain combination of layers within a ditro can lead to exactly this kind of outcome. That's why I use Arch Linux. I can custom make my environment to do what I want the way I know it all works the way I want. Well, how come Qtractor doesn't do it and MusE does I hear you cry ? Dunno. But one thing is for sure, MusE is a victim not a perpetrator here. EG: I used to say Jack2 was better than Jack1 - not any more in my rig. Jack1 is far more stable now. So it's an on going shit fight to keep this stuff real. Configuration is everything (as I'm sure you know!) in Linux and that's what's going on for you for sure. For the record,I simply can't replicate what you see. But I feel your pain ;) best g. |
From: Dan M. <al...@gm...> - 2013-04-06 01:50:56
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Hi Geoff! Its not just qtractor that runs without xruns here - REAPER under wine with wineasio also runs xrun-free under the same JACK settings and personally I'd expect that to be flakier - not so. I'm not being entirely fair here as I'm running KXStudio and so I kinda expect audio apps to 'just work' most of the time as falktx has done a good job of tweaking what can be tweaked but thats a bit unrealistic and I didn't spend long trying to pin-point the cause of the mystery muse xruns. As I said in the last mail, Robert has added a couple of features I requested in the last week so I'll have another go soon and put more effort into getting it running smoothly. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Geoff Beasley <ge...@la... > wrote: > On 04/05/2013 10:41 PM, Dan MacDonald wrote: > >> >> I tried Muse svn a few weeks back and I was getting xruns when only >> recording 1 audio track with no plugins >> > Hey Dan. This isn't MusE believe me. > > I record/playback/mix everything in MusE these days with 4 audio cards in > one machine giving 40 chnnels of audio I/O and mutiple midi devices etc etc > and no x-run madness other than what the alsa multi plug induces under SMP > (and they are non destructive anyway) so if there was an issue like this I > would have found it long ago. > > The basic problem with Linux per se is that a certain combination of > layers within a ditro can lead to exactly this kind of outcome. That's why > I use Arch Linux. I can custom make my environment to do what I want the > way I know it all works the way I want. > > Well, how come Qtractor doesn't do it and MusE does I hear you cry ? > Dunno. But one thing is for sure, MusE is a victim not a perpetrator here. > EG: I used to say Jack2 was better than Jack1 - not any more in my rig. > Jack1 is far more stable now. So it's an on going shit fight to keep this > stuff real. Configuration is everything (as I'm sure you know!) in Linux > and that's what's going on for you for sure. For the record,I simply can't > replicate what you see. But I feel your pain ;) > > best > > g. > |
From: Florian J. <flo...@we...> - 2013-04-12 16:38:26
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> I find REAPER pretty intuitive - I know I worked it > out easier than any of the Linux DAWs and managed to find everything I > needed without reading the manual or having to ask on their forums. In order to not burn forever in hell, you will have to help us (by giving lots of feedback) to create a good Linux DAW ;) I have some good and interesting (from a technical point of view) ideas for MusE; but i'm more a programmer than a audio pro, so am *really* bad at designign usable user interfaces or the like. This is where reaper-users can help :) Please do. Greetings, flo |
From: Dan M. <al...@gm...> - 2013-04-12 17:09:59
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NP Flo - will do! Thanks for your support! Dan On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Florian Jung <flo...@we...> wrote: > > I find REAPER pretty intuitive - I know I worked it > > out easier than any of the Linux DAWs and managed to find everything I > > needed without reading the manual or having to ask on their forums. > > In order to not burn forever in hell, you will have to help us (by > giving lots of feedback) to create a good Linux DAW ;) > > I have some good and interesting (from a technical point of view) ideas > for MusE; but i'm more a programmer than a audio pro, so am *really* bad > at designign usable user interfaces or the like. This is where > reaper-users can help :) > > Please do. > > Greetings, > flo > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user > > |
From: Stjepan H. <zva...@gm...> - 2013-04-13 11:17:13
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Hey guys..i sended a mail about piano-roll zoom..did you get it? On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Dan MacDonald <al...@gm...> wrote: > NP Flo - will do! > > Thanks for your support! > > Dan > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Florian Jung <flo...@we...>wrote: > >> > I find REAPER pretty intuitive - I know I worked it >> > out easier than any of the Linux DAWs and managed to find everything I >> > needed without reading the manual or having to ask on their forums. >> >> In order to not burn forever in hell, you will have to help us (by >> giving lots of feedback) to create a good Linux DAW ;) >> >> I have some good and interesting (from a technical point of view) ideas >> for MusE; but i'm more a programmer than a audio pro, so am *really* bad >> at designign usable user interfaces or the like. This is where >> reaper-users can help :) >> >> Please do. >> >> Greetings, >> flo >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use >> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! >> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lmuse-user mailing list >> Lmu...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user > > -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* |
From: martin <mar...@we...> - 2013-10-07 19:33:17
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Am 04/05/2013 11:09 PM, schrieb Geoff Beasley: > I record/playback/mix everything in MusE these days with 4 audio cards > in one machine giving 40 chnnels of audio I/O and mutiple midi devices > etc etc and no x-run madness other than what the alsa multi plug induces > under SMP (and they are non destructive anyway) so if there was an issue > like this I would have found it long ago. Muse seems rock-solid to me! I had stability problems before, with jackd and a ffado firewire backend, especially when using alsa_in and alsa_out (these create jack ports for alsa devices). Muse would eventually stop playing, use 100% CPU and freeze the GUI. All this went away when I switched to jack2. Also with jackd I could not go below 20ms latency even for just playing mp3s. With jackd2 I am running with 5ms without any xruns. When I googled for "jackd vs. jackd2" I got the impression, that it doesn't matter much, which one you use. I cannot confirm this, jackd2 is much more stable, esecially in conjuntion with muse. |
From: Florian J. <fl...@wi...> - 2013-10-07 19:38:13
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Am 07.10.2013 21:10, schrieb martin: > Muse seems rock-solid to me! nice to hear that! > When I googled for "jackd vs. jackd2" I got the impression, that it > doesn't matter much, which one you use. I cannot confirm this, jackd2 is > much more stable, esecially in conjuntion with muse. AFAIK, they're functionally equivalent (and not more and not less). Additionally, i think jack2 can actually do multiprocessing to a certain extent. Maybe this speeds stuff up as well? cheers, flo |