From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-02-09 22:03:17
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Hi Christoph, I just a test with sending midi clock and it seems that there was a bug with sending the "play" message. I've checked in a fix for the "play" message, check out the latest from the REL07 branch if you'd like to try it. Further more, to get it to work there are some hoops to jump through. ;) Do the following: Set the Midi Sync dialog to: Master Sync Gen [x] Midi Clock Id: xxx Port: <the right port> <--- this one stumped me for a while And press OK. Do _NOT_ click the Sync button in the transport, I think it enables Slave mode regardless. Not sure if that is the way it is supposed to work... seems non intuitive anyway. +++++ I suppose I'd better come clean with what I have tested. I don't have any external equipment to test this with and I'm not sure if there are any softwares I can test it with, so, that it "works" is mainly based on looking at muses output with -M, and that worked just fine 8-P. Regards, Robert -- http://spamatica.se/music/ |
From: Christoph E. <mch...@t-...> - 2005-02-10 19:11:23
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> I just a test with sending midi clock and it seems that > there was a bug with sending the "play" message. > I've checked in a fix for the "play" message, check out the > latest from the REL07 branch if you'd like to try it. Cool. I'll do so, but I certainly cannot do so before sunday. Thanks & best regards ce |
From: Christoph E. <mch...@t-...> - 2005-02-13 13:36:51
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Hi, > I just a test with sending midi clock and it seems that > there was a bug with sending the "play" message. > I've checked in a fix for the "play" message, check out the > latest from the REL07 branch if you'd like to try it. I got an error while running make. It complains that a symlink already exists: ln -s moc_posedit.cpp moc_posedit.non-libtool.cpp ln: ,,moc_posedit.non-libtool.cpp": file exists and quits. I removed the symlink manually, but perhaps it=20 would be useful for other users if the symlink could be=20 removed from the cvs or - if the symlink already exists -=20 making make not quit by using the existing symlink. > Further more, to get it to work there are some hoops to > jump through. ;) Do the following: > > Set the Midi Sync dialog to: > =A0Master > =A0 =A0Sync Gen > =A0 =A0[x] Midi Clock > =A0 =A0Id: xxx =A0 Port: <the right port> =A0<--- this one stumped > me for a while Argh. Yeah, this is not intuitively to understand. Welcome=20 back again in the MIDI in MIDI out MusE ports=20 discussion ;-) . I wonder: why does it work this way? It seems to be=20 impossibble this way to sync more than one device or=20 softsynth to the MIDI clock, or am I wrong? > And press OK. > > Do _NOT_ click the Sync button in the transport, I think it > enables Slave mode regardless. Not sure if that is the way > it is supposed to work... seems non intuitive anyway. OK, I did all as described. The Virus now receives MIDI clock=20 from MusE. Cool. But as soon as I change the tempo in MusE, the Virus does=20 weird things for many bars until it stabilizes and recognizes=20 the new speed. Seems still to be buggy. Can we somehow=20 capture the output, analyze and compare it to the MIDI clock=20 specs? Thanks & best regards ce |
From: Joachim S. <js...@du...> - 2005-02-17 00:06:03
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On Sunday 13 February 2005 14:33, Christoph Eckert wrote: > Hi, > > > I just a test with sending midi clock and it seems that > > there was a bug with sending the "play" message. > > I've checked in a fix for the "play" message, check out the > > latest from the REL07 branch if you'd like to try it. > > I got an error while running make. It complains that a symlink > already exists: > > ln -s moc_posedit.cpp moc_posedit.non-libtool.cpp > ln: ,,moc_posedit.non-libtool.cpp": file exists > > and quits. I removed the symlink manually, but perhaps it > would be useful for other users if the symlink could be > removed from the cvs or - if the symlink already exists - > making make not quit by using the existing symlink. > > > Further more, to get it to work there are some hoops to > > jump through. ;) Do the following: > > > > Set the Midi Sync dialog to: > > =A0Master > > =A0 =A0Sync Gen > > =A0 =A0[x] Midi Clock > > =A0 =A0Id: xxx =A0 Port: <the right port> =A0<--- this one stumped > > me for a while > > Argh. Yeah, this is not intuitively to understand. Welcome > back again in the MIDI in MIDI out MusE ports > discussion ;-) . > > I wonder: why does it work this way? It seems to be > impossibble this way to sync more than one device or > softsynth to the MIDI clock, or am I wrong? > > > And press OK. > > > > Do _NOT_ click the Sync button in the transport, I think it > > enables Slave mode regardless. Not sure if that is the way > > it is supposed to work... seems non intuitive anyway. > > OK, I did all as described. The Virus now receives MIDI clock > from MusE. Cool. > > But as soon as I change the tempo in MusE, the Virus does > weird things for many bars until it stabilizes and recognizes > the new speed. Seems still to be buggy. Can we somehow > capture the output, analyze and compare it to the MIDI clock > specs? Hey Christoph, Robert, .. *rofl* if i do a tempo change, with sync out (in MusE), my Q will set it's= =20 tempo to 2124 BPM which is _at least for me_ a bit to fast. ;-) Just my 2$ > > Thanks & best regards > > > ce > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id=14396&op=3DClick > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user |
From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-02-26 21:21:06
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> > > > But as soon as I change the tempo in MusE, the Virus does > > weird things for many bars until it stabilizes and recognizes > > the new speed. Seems still to be buggy. Can we somehow > > capture the output, analyze and compare it to the MIDI clock > > specs? > > Hey Christoph, Robert, .. > *rofl* if i do a tempo change, with sync out (in MusE), my Q will set it's > tempo to 2124 BPM which is _at least for me_ a bit to fast. > Extreme ping times again, sorry. I'm here around but not much happening at the moment :-/... work work work.. and of course some music! :) About the tempo. 2124 seems like a good tempo 8-). For mosquito blues perhaps... I've noted that strange things happen during tempo transitions. I will try to look at it when I manage to resurface ;). Regards, Robert -- http://spamatica.se/music/ |
From: Christoph E. <mch...@t-...> - 2005-02-13 22:35:43
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Hi, > But as soon as I change the tempo in MusE, the Virus does > weird things for many bars until it stabilizes and > recognizes the new speed. Seems still to be buggy. Can we > somehow capture the output, analyze and compare it to the > MIDI clock specs? answering myself ;-) . I asked a mamber of the inofficial Virus list to test MIDI clock changes in conjunktion with the Virus' LFO modulating the filter. He reported that abrupt tempo changes never managed to bring the Virus out of sync. THe effect described above does happen in MusE and Rosegarden as well, but in Rosegarden, the Virus reacts weird only for a short time, while in MusE, it lasts several seconds. Maybe Cubase SX does some voodoo when tempo changes appear, or MusE and Rosegarden behave correctly. Or Cubase continues to sent MIDI clock rock solid, while Rosegarden and MusE are out of sync for some time and reason. Best regards ce |
From: Mathias L. <mat...@br...> - 2005-02-14 17:56:44
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sön 2005-02-13 klockan 23.32 skrev Christoph Eckert: > Hi, > > > But as soon as I change the tempo in MusE, the Virus does > > weird things for many bars until it stabilizes and > > recognizes the new speed. Seems still to be buggy. Can we > > somehow capture the output, analyze and compare it to the > > MIDI clock specs? > > answering myself ;-) . > > I asked a mamber of the inofficial Virus list to test MIDI > clock changes in conjunktion with the Virus' LFO modulating > the filter. He reported that abrupt tempo changes never > managed to bring the Virus out of sync. > > THe effect described above does happen in MusE and Rosegarden > as well, but in Rosegarden, the Virus reacts weird only for a > short time, while in MusE, it lasts several seconds. > > Maybe Cubase SX does some voodoo when tempo changes appear, or > MusE and Rosegarden behave correctly. > > Or Cubase continues to sent MIDI clock rock solid, while > Rosegarden and MusE are out of sync for some time and reason. > > For some reason I (unfortunately) think the later statement sounds more likely... ;-) /Mathias |
From: Christoph E. <mch...@t-...> - 2005-02-19 01:28:23
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> > Or Cubase continues to sent MIDI clock rock solid, while > > Rosegarden and MusE are out of sync for some time and > > reason. > > For some reason I (unfortunately) think the later statement > sounds more likely... ;-) just some minutes before, an other user appeared in the Access Virus user list and reported similar problems. He thinks it is a problem related to the used MIDI device, and he now wants to exchange his Midiman by a Steinberg Midex. I do not know how true this info is, but JFYI. Best regards ce |
From: Christoph E. <mch...@t-...> - 2005-02-14 18:08:53
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> > Maybe Cubase SX does some voodoo when tempo changes > > appear, or MusE and Rosegarden behave correctly. > > > > Or Cubase continues to sent MIDI clock rock solid, while > > Rosegarden and MusE are out of sync for some time and > > reason. > > For some reason I (unfortunately) think the later statement > sounds more likely... ;-) Somehow, it's great joy to be an inhabitant of this nice list :) . Best regards ce |
From: Mathias L. <mat...@br...> - 2005-02-14 18:21:20
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mån 2005-02-14 klockan 19.05 skrev Christoph Eckert: > > > Maybe Cubase SX does some voodoo when tempo changes > > > appear, or MusE and Rosegarden behave correctly. > > > > > > Or Cubase continues to sent MIDI clock rock solid, while > > > Rosegarden and MusE are out of sync for some time and > > > reason. > > > > For some reason I (unfortunately) think the later statement > > sounds more likely... ;-) > > Somehow, it's great joy to be an inhabitant of this nice > list :) . > I just wish I was better at following it...:-D BTW, what's the best airport to go to if attending LAC? Stuttgart or Frankfurt? From which one is it easier to go to Karlsruhe? /Mathias |
From: Christoph E. <mch...@t-...> - 2005-02-14 18:38:15
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Hi, > I just wish I was better at following it...:-D BTW, what's > the best airport to go to if attending LAC? Stuttgart or > Frankfurt? From which one is it easier to go to Karlsruhe? the Airport in Frankfurt has an excellent station; you can catch a direct train or you have to change the train only once (usually in Mannheim). Ensure you go to the remote station, there's also a station for local trains only. The disadvantage is that it's more expensive. Stuttgart is a bit cheaper, but it's a mess to catch the underground from the airport to the main station in the city and to catch there the train to Karlsruhe. A further thing is that a flight to Stuttgart can be cheaper than a flight to Frankfurt. If you do not worry about some euros, I'd recommend Frankfurt. Best regards ce |
From: Joachim S. <js...@du...> - 2005-02-17 00:09:26
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On Monday 14 February 2005 19:35, Christoph Eckert wrote: > Hi, > > > I just wish I was better at following it...:-D BTW, what's > > the best airport to go to if attending LAC? Stuttgart or > > Frankfurt? From which one is it easier to go to Karlsruhe? > > the Airport in Frankfurt has an excellent station; you can > catch a direct train or you have to change the train only > once (usually in Mannheim). Ensure you go to the remote > station, there's also a station for local trains only. > > The disadvantage is that it's more expensive. If you like i can catch you in Stuttgart, I'm driving to Karlsruhe by car=20 anyway. Just tell me what you like ;-) Btw: I've got a old car, so don't expect to much. Greets, Q > > Stuttgart is a bit cheaper, but it's a mess to catch the > underground from the airport to the main station in the city > and to catch there the train to Karlsruhe. > > A further thing is that a flight to Stuttgart can be cheaper > than a flight to Frankfurt. > > If you do not worry about some euros, I'd recommend Frankfurt. > > Best regards > > > ce > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user |