From: Joachim S. <js...@du...> - 2004-01-15 10:38:37
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi ppl i don't get this metronome running. playing the synth, recording and such i= s=20 working. but there is no midi-click although it's clicked in the menu. i got midi=20 channel 10 and midi port 1. is this not correct? the same thing is with the precount, it's not made ;P but as far as i know this doesn't have something to do with the midi settin= gs. midi sync out of muse isn't working also, am i doing something wrong? greets, joachim =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFABm2iyzk1c1T5Os4RAp5iAJ4pqOw45AJVOWEJohNYawc2JuTNWQCgggby xdXecjns+lRJyHCqD0WIPpI=3D =3Ds3fk =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Emiliano G. <emi...@po...> - 2004-01-15 10:50:38
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gioved=EC, 15 gennaio 2004 alle 11:38:22, Joachim Schiele ha scritto: > hi ppl > i don't get this metronome running. playing the synth, recording and su= ch is=20 > working. > but there is no midi-click although it's clicked in the menu. i got mid= i=20 > channel 10 and midi port 1. is this not correct? >=20 > the same thing is with the precount, it's not made ;P > but as far as i know this doesn't have something to do with the midi se= ttings. Hi,=20 you have to select the "click" button on the transport panel (display->transport panel) - or de-select and select again ... =20 > midi sync out of muse isn't working also, am i doing something wrong? I've got some sort of success using the virmidi alsa driver (check out th= e frank barnecht's soft-synth howto) - I've succeeded in sync muse to ardou= r via MTC (you have to edit the ~/.ardour/ardourrc). =20 > greets, > joachim HTH Ciao --=20 Emiliano Grilli Linux user #209089=20 http://www.emillo.net |
From: Rocco <roc...@ne...> - 2004-01-15 19:16:52
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>> hi ppl >> i don't get this metronome running. playing >> the synth, recording and such is working. >> but there is no midi-click although it's >> clicked in the menu. i got midi >> channel 10 and midi port 1. is this not correct? > you have to select the "click" button on the transport panel > (display->transport panel) - or de-select and select again ... Something that will eliminate a lot of headaches for you (expecially with all the issues that come with being a "newbie"). When you set the metronome time (in the Transport Window, in the top right "field") to a new time... make sure the "red line" is at the *beginning* (at 0). Because the new metronome time will *kick in* at whatever point the "red line" is currently at. In other words... if the "red line" is set at bar 54, then that's when the *new* metronome time will kick in. I've seen emails (and have experienced for myself) a situation were the song is going alone and all of a sudden there's a slow down (or speed up) of timing. *Always* put the cursor at the beginning when setting a new metronome timing. This next thing may be a bit much, but I think it's important enough to mention. I notice that you can assign the metronome to a softsynth. I just deleted the .MusE config file and re-stared Muse to see how Muse sets the metronome up be default. I see that by default it set up to play a sound on whatever is on port 1, midi channel 10 (standard drum channel) and note 63. I connected FluidSynth to port 1 and it indeed did played note 63, on channel 10 (Drum channel) with the sound that is number 63 in the soundfont loaded into FluidSynth. Here's the problem with that. If you (then) set a track to port 1 (in this case... FluidSynth) and use channel 10 (drum channel) then when you push the volume up in the audio mixer for that track, you *not only* raise the volume for that track (the drum track), you also raise the volume of the metronome click. If you want seperate volume controls for you "drum track" and your metronome, you may want to follow this approach... I went to --> Config --> Soft Syntisizer --> I added the softsynth called "S1". I use this as the metronome sound source because I (personally) can't find it much useful as a softsynth (but that's just me). I then go to --> Config --> Midi Ports and assign "S1" to port 16 (Put it way down there were it will be "out of the way" since it's now only useful as a metronome sound source). Then I go to --> Config --> Metronome and change Port 1 to Port 16 and Channel 10 to Channel 16 (if you pressed "play" and your metronome "click" was "on", you would hear the *old* sound. So, click "apply" in the Metronome Config Window to hear the new sound as the metronome plays). As I mentioned, press "play" and make sure the metronome "click" is "on". Now you can adjust the pitch of the metronome sound. The only thing confusing at this point is why there's 4 controls over the sound... Here's the deal... "Measure Note" is the "accented note" (the first note). In other words, if you were in 4/4 timing you would hear "BEEP, beep, beep, beep"... The "Measure Note" would be the firt "BEEP" in that series of beeps. The "Measure Velocity" is the *volume* of the accented note (doesn't seem to have any effect on the "S1" synth). The "Beat Note" is the (un)accented notes. And, of course "Beat Velocity" is the volume of the (un)accented notes (doesn't seem to have any effect on the "S1" synth). Personally... I found that the best settings are "99 Measure Note" and "99 Beat Note". It just seems like the "right" pitch for a metronome. And having them set to the same pitch eliminates the accent. Personally, I find the accent is a distraction. If you go to --> Audio --> Mixer, you will see "S1-1". This is your "Metronome channel". And if you *don't* assign any midi track to port 16, you will always have seperate control over the volume and panning of the Metronome. The only thing I'm not sure of, is what happens if you assign other things to (channel) 16. If you like this approach... go to --> Config --> Save Configuration, so the program will start with these setting on start-up. Rocco |
From: Emiliano G. <emi...@po...> - 2004-01-16 08:37:15
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Hi, sorry Rocco, I'm replying to this message because I've accidentally deleted the other one :) About MusE syncronization to ardour, the "success" is that you can start/stop MusE and ardour will follow. This is done using MTC and virmidi (telling muse to generate the timecode on a virmidi device and telling ardour to use that device for receiving MTC). However I hope that sometimes MusE will get jack-transport features, which for now are implemented in hydrogen, ardour and ecasound - I think it would be a better (and more clean) way for get all these apps in sync. The link to Frank's howto is (beware the long line): http://linux-sound.org/quick-toots/4-sequencers_and_softsynths/quick-toot-midisynth_howto.html Here you will find instructions on how to interconnect applications that support ALSA sequencer and also these that don't (using the snd-virmidi driver) - virmidi is a sort of loopback device for MIDI (like the windows programs midiyoke or hubi's loopback) Ciao PS: sorry 4 my english -- Emiliano Grilli Linux user #209089 http://www.emillo.net |
From: Robert J. <rob...@da...> - 2004-01-16 08:52:26
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Hi, > However I hope that sometimes MusE will get jack-transport features, which > for now are implemented in hydrogen, ardour and ecasound - I think it would > be a better (and more clean) way for get all these apps in sync. I think Werner has implemented full jack-transport support in the new version. Further more he has improved the routing mechanism _alot_ towards jack so it will be easier to route things from/to other applications. This does also mean that the mixer in MusE is much more advanced, which might remove the need to use other mixer apps ;) > Ciao > > PS: sorry 4 my english > -- > Emiliano Grilli Then I'm sorry for my italian (which is so bad I won't even expose you to it). =) Regards, Robert |
From: Rocco <roc...@ne...> - 2004-01-16 16:17:13
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emi...@po... wrote: > Hi, sorry Rocco, I'm replying to this message because I've accidentally > deleted the other one :) > About MusE syncronization to ardour, the "success" is that you can > start/stop MusE and ardour will follow. This is done using MTC and virmidi > (telling muse to generate the timecode on a virmidi device and telling > ardour to use that device for receiving MTC). That qualifies as a "success" for me :-) > The link to Frank's howto is (beware the long line): > http://linux-sound.org/quick-toots/4-sequencers_and_softsynths/quick-toot-midisynth_howto.html > Here you will find instructions on how to interconnect applications that > support ALSA sequencer and also these that don't (using the snd-virmidi > driver) - virmidi is a sort of loopback device for MIDI (like the windows > programs midiyoke or hubi's loopback) Thanks a lot. I'm looking forward to trying everything out. > PS: sorry 4 my english I understood every word :-) I just wish you could come here and teach some of my english speaking friends how to communicate (hehe). Rocco |
From: Rocco <roc...@ne...> - 2004-01-16 02:24:39
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>>midi sync out of muse isn't working also, am i doing something wrong? > I've got some sort of success using the virmidi alsa driver (check out the > frank barnecht's soft-synth howto) - I've succeeded in sync muse to ardour > via MTC (you have to edit the ~/.ardour/ardourrc). I'm courious what you mean by "some sort of success". Could you explain further. This is something that I'm very interested in exploring (syncing of programs) and haven't (quite yet) had the free time to really try all alternatives. But I would be very interested in know what happend when you synced muse to ardour. Also, do you have the link to frank barnecht's soft-synth howto? Thanks... Rocco |
From: Joachim S. <js...@du...> - 2004-02-02 18:27:34
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 15 January 2004 11:50, Emiliano Grilli wrote: tnx for your help. it's fine now. ;-) > gioved=EC, 15 gennaio 2004 alle 11:38:22, Joachim Schiele ha scritto: > > hi ppl > > i don't get this metronome running. playing the synth, recording and su= ch > > is working. > > but there is no midi-click although it's clicked in the menu. i got midi > > channel 10 and midi port 1. is this not correct? > > > > the same thing is with the precount, it's not made ;P > > but as far as i know this doesn't have something to do with the midi > > settings. > > Hi, > you have to select the "click" button on the transport panel > (display->transport panel) - or de-select and select again ... > > > midi sync out of muse isn't working also, am i doing something wrong? > > I've got some sort of success using the virmidi alsa driver (check out the > frank barnecht's soft-synth howto) - I've succeeded in sync muse to ardour > via MTC (you have to edit the ~/.ardour/ardourrc). > > > greets, > > joachim > > HTH Ciao =2D --=20 gruss, joachim schiele =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAHpaQyzk1c1T5Os4RAnBSAJoD4F3qfC12TMzWJ7H3fOw6/wGyYwCgi46A AC4Vf9P4dWao+fertJH0YEs=3D =3DOyCG =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |