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From: Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...> - 2014-12-10 14:22:04
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Would it be wise to let the users know they are going to be added to this list before the merge happens? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tre...@gm...> wrote: > >> I'd vote for keeping lmms-devel and drop lmms-users. Migrating to a >> completely new ML is very hard to do and obviously mailinglists primarily >> are being used for development purposes. IMHO our users prefer using the >> forum and other social media. Maybe for release announcements we could >> create a new ML "lmms-announce". > > > Can we make this happen? :) I think it's about time as the devel list has > proved to be the single place for conversation in the past year. > > Raindrops (correctly) posted to the user list for the manual, but asked > specific questions that developers ended up answering. I think the user's > list is safe to be retired. > > I assume this would need to be done by Toby, but if others have access, > please chime in. :) > > -Tres > > - Tre...@gm... > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Tobias Doerffel <tob...@gm... > > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd vote for keeping lmms-devel and drop lmms-users. Migrating to a >> completely new ML is very hard to do and obviously mailinglists primarily >> are being used for development purposes. IMHO our users prefer using the >> forum and other social media. Maybe for release announcements we could >> create a new ML "lmms-announce". >> >> Toby >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Lmms-users mailing list >> Lmm...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > > -- Jonathan Aquilina |
From: Tres F. <tre...@gm...> - 2014-12-10 14:15:52
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> > > I'd vote for keeping lmms-devel and drop lmms-users. Migrating to a > completely new ML is very hard to do and obviously mailinglists primarily > are being used for development purposes. IMHO our users prefer using the > forum and other social media. Maybe for release announcements we could > create a new ML "lmms-announce". Can we make this happen? :) I think it's about time as the devel list has proved to be the single place for conversation in the past year. Raindrops (correctly) posted to the user list for the manual, but asked specific questions that developers ended up answering. I think the user's list is safe to be retired. I assume this would need to be done by Toby, but if others have access, please chime in. :) -Tres - Tre...@gm... On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Tobias Doerffel <tob...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > > I'd vote for keeping lmms-devel and drop lmms-users. Migrating to a > completely new ML is very hard to do and obviously mailinglists primarily > are being used for development purposes. IMHO our users prefer using the > forum and other social media. Maybe for release announcements we could > create a new ML "lmms-announce". > > Toby > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-09 06:22:51
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Hi all, In the 0.4.x versions, the automation graph snapped to only the possible values on the Y-axis. This resulted in a distinct stepped shape of graph (except VOL/PAN knobs, which allowed a smooth automation graph). For example, - in case of VOL knob, 0-200 continuous; - In case of PAN knob, -100 to +100 continuous - in case of Mute LED, ON/OFF. - in case of a drop down menu, all the discrete options. But I tried the same in the new version, and it seems to allow any shape of the graph for any control. For example, in case of an LED, if the graph is a ramp, then what should be the actual state of the LED when it is 30%, 40%, 60% etc?? Regards, Narayan |
From: Tres F. <tre...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 12:59:29
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Raindrops From Sky < rai...@gm...> wrote: > Tres, > > Yes I do agree that keeping the sources in a repository has these > advantages. > > How do I place my source docs in repository? Could you please point to the > process? > Fantastic question. I would tend to lean towards placing it into the lmms.io source on GitHub. The Wiki and our tracker for it resides there and having this document in own dedicated repo is probably overkill at this point. For starters, you should create a GitHub account. I've already created a bug report here which you can feel free to comment on: https://github.com/LMMS/lmms.io/issues/117 I've tagged a few others as well. :) If we go this route, we'd check it into the source code of the website in a place we all deem appropriate. |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 12:49:52
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Tres, Yes I do agree that keeping the sources in a repository has these advantages. How do I place my source docs in repository? Could you please point to the process? Thanks in advance! Regards Narayan On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 18:11 Tres Finocchiaro <tre...@gm...> wrote: > @Narayan, > > It is your right to keep any creative works you have created (and to > provide the publication and sources under a license you deem appropriate), > so I don't want to sound pushy, however, we do a great job of keeping all > other creative sources which the project relies on (at least those > resources we have sources for) backed up into an online repository which > gives the project the security of knowing the source will outlive the > creator. > > So it's less a matter of **who** will support the manual moving forward, > but more of an **if** it is no longer maintained, and when it comes to a > project the and magnitude of ours, that often means **when** it is no > longer maintained. > > But there are some other benefits to this approach as well... As our wiki > maintainers find issues with either the online or PDF version of our > documentation, we can track it in our tracker (either open a ticket, or use > the comments/highlight feature on the source document). Furthermore, > GitHub has version control -- albeit not tailored for publishing -- can > revert to an earlier state of a document if needed. > > On a personal note -- as one of the technical reviewers of the Packt book > and author of 500+ technical documents -- I can reassure you that very few > people edit documents they haven't created themselves, but there are some > benefits in committing the source of your work upstream, so I wanted to > leave you with at least these thoughts (i.e. no pressure, just sharing some > thoughts) > > - Tre...@gm... > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Raindrops From Sky < > rai...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hi Tres, >> >> I provide long-term support for all my manuals. >> >> so far I have written 10+ manuals for different projects. Some of them >> are almost 10 years old. >> In fact, I keep updating these manuals as I find time, and that's why I >> don't share the source (because it would be outdated.) >> >> But if someone wants the source for translating, I can provide the source. >> In fact, I have already done that for the German version of LMMS manual. >> >> I will make this more specific in the manual itself, so that more >> translators can get inspired. >> >> Cheers! >> Narayan >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < >> tre...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> We haven't discussed this yet, but Raindrops, would you be willing to >>> offer the current manual to our project in source form (i.e. OpenOffice, MS >>> Word, etc?) Having the "source" for this manual would ensure we have the >>> ability to maintain your hard work in the event you leave the project. >>> >>> -Tres >>> >>> - Tre...@gm... >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stian Jørgensrud <sti...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> But it may not be able to produce music of certain types. >>>>> >>>>> For example, within the Western music, LMMS cannot create Jazz and >>>>>> Blues music because they use blues notes, >>>>> >>>>> which cannot be produced by the Piano Roll Editor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Page 151, Section about World Music. >>>> Wow I didn't know about *blue notes*, not blues notes cause that would >>>> be the regular "western ones". Except for them, LMMS is capable of playing >>>> blues. >>>> >>>> In the subsection Limitations of Percussion >>>> >>>>> So this is another area where you may feel that LMMS is unable to >>>>> match the demands of your music. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, it may feel limiting, but I just realized (the last time I wrote >>>> to you) why you can place drum notes in the Song Editor when you have >>>> zoomed in 800% or more. It is because you then just as easily as in the B&B >>>> Editor can make drums in the Song Editor! So it could be debatable how >>>> limiting it is. Also some artists tend to write their drums as notes. >>>> https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=5116 >>>> >>>> I don't know if the Limitation of Percussion is meant to only describe >>>> limitations, and then you describe alternatives in Alternatives to >>>> Limitation of Percussion :) or if you just could add that it is easy to >>>> make drums in the Song Editor too. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hilsen >>>> Stian Jørgensrud >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >>>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >>>> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & >>>> more >>>> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >>>> >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lmms-users mailing list >>>> Lmm...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
From: Tres F. <tre...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 12:41:17
|
@Narayan, It is your right to keep any creative works you have created (and to provide the publication and sources under a license you deem appropriate), so I don't want to sound pushy, however, we do a great job of keeping all other creative sources which the project relies on (at least those resources we have sources for) backed up into an online repository which gives the project the security of knowing the source will outlive the creator. So it's less a matter of **who** will support the manual moving forward, but more of an **if** it is no longer maintained, and when it comes to a project the and magnitude of ours, that often means **when** it is no longer maintained. But there are some other benefits to this approach as well... As our wiki maintainers find issues with either the online or PDF version of our documentation, we can track it in our tracker (either open a ticket, or use the comments/highlight feature on the source document). Furthermore, GitHub has version control -- albeit not tailored for publishing -- can revert to an earlier state of a document if needed. On a personal note -- as one of the technical reviewers of the Packt book and author of 500+ technical documents -- I can reassure you that very few people edit documents they haven't created themselves, but there are some benefits in committing the source of your work upstream, so I wanted to leave you with at least these thoughts (i.e. no pressure, just sharing some thoughts) - Tre...@gm... On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Raindrops From Sky < rai...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Tres, > > I provide long-term support for all my manuals. > > so far I have written 10+ manuals for different projects. Some of them are > almost 10 years old. > In fact, I keep updating these manuals as I find time, and that's why I > don't share the source (because it would be outdated.) > > But if someone wants the source for translating, I can provide the source. > In fact, I have already done that for the German version of LMMS manual. > > I will make this more specific in the manual itself, so that more > translators can get inspired. > > Cheers! > Narayan > > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < > tre...@gm...> wrote: > >> We haven't discussed this yet, but Raindrops, would you be willing to >> offer the current manual to our project in source form (i.e. OpenOffice, MS >> Word, etc?) Having the "source" for this manual would ensure we have the >> ability to maintain your hard work in the event you leave the project. >> >> -Tres >> >> - Tre...@gm... >> >> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stian Jørgensrud <sti...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >>> But it may not be able to produce music of certain types. >>>> >>>> For example, within the Western music, LMMS cannot create Jazz and >>>>> Blues music because they use blues notes, >>>> >>>> which cannot be produced by the Piano Roll Editor. >>>> >>>> >>> Page 151, Section about World Music. >>> Wow I didn't know about *blue notes*, not blues notes cause that would >>> be the regular "western ones". Except for them, LMMS is capable of playing >>> blues. >>> >>> In the subsection Limitations of Percussion >>> >>>> So this is another area where you may feel that LMMS is unable to match >>>> the demands of your music. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah, it may feel limiting, but I just realized (the last time I wrote >>> to you) why you can place drum notes in the Song Editor when you have >>> zoomed in 800% or more. It is because you then just as easily as in the B&B >>> Editor can make drums in the Song Editor! So it could be debatable how >>> limiting it is. Also some artists tend to write their drums as notes. >>> https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=5116 >>> >>> I don't know if the Limitation of Percussion is meant to only describe >>> limitations, and then you describe alternatives in Alternatives to >>> Limitation of Percussion :) or if you just could add that it is easy to >>> make drums in the Song Editor too. >>> >>> -- >>> Hilsen >>> Stian Jørgensrud >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >>> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >>> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >>> >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lmms-users mailing list >>> Lmm...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >>> >>> >> > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 11:14:23
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My responses are inline. Regards, Narayan On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Raine M. Ekman <ra...@ik...> wrote: > Quoting Raindrops From Sky <rai...@gm...>: > > > The core issue is, *how to produce Blue notes that are so essential for > > Jazz/Blue*. > > I'm pretty sure people play both blues and jazz music on pianos, which > are even more limited than LMMS. So you could start by not writing > things like "LMMS cannot create Jazz and Blues music". > wow- why the flame? > > The Piano Editor does not allow us to pitch-shift individual notes. > > You can bend an individual note through the "detune" feature: > https://lmms.io/documentation/1.0:Piano_Roll_Editor#Editing. > > Ok I had missed this new feature. It actually provides both shifting and bending. But it is not a universal solution anyway (see below). > Detuning a note doesn't work for MIDI-based plugins, i.e. Vestige, SF2 > player, OpulenZ and ZynAddSubFX. For those you only have pitch bend > for the whole instrument at once. > OTOH, ZynAddSubFX has a pretty universal retuning mechanism, see: > http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/doc_2.html#w2 > > You could use that for tracks that need pitches outside the 12-tone > equal temperament. It should be quite a bit more convenient than > separately automating every note of some pitch. > > > > The pitch control is available at instrument level, which means any > > constant/automated shift will apply to ALL notes produced by the > instrument. > > This is the minimum level of support for pitch control, it's pretty > much equivalent to what MIDI offers in live play. It works for > monophonic lines, but is quite a bit more trouble to automate than > note detuning as the automation track will be separate from the note > segment. > > There's an issue filed on the tuning subject: > https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/1387 > > > > > So the solution would be to add a Pitch knob to the Song Editor, which > will > > allow both pitch-shifting and pitch-bending of specific notes. > > Wouldn't you need at least two, one to select the note and one to > bend? Or 12, if you want to shift/bend more than one note at the same > time? > Actually I was thinking of applying an automation track to this knob, rather than changing its value by default. > -- > ra...@ik... > softrabbit on #lmms > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > |
From: Raine M. E. <ra...@ik...> - 2014-12-08 10:23:59
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Quoting Raindrops From Sky <rai...@gm...>: > The core issue is, *how to produce Blue notes that are so essential for > Jazz/Blue*. I'm pretty sure people play both blues and jazz music on pianos, which are even more limited than LMMS. So you could start by not writing things like "LMMS cannot create Jazz and Blues music". > The Piano Editor does not allow us to pitch-shift individual notes. You can bend an individual note through the "detune" feature: https://lmms.io/documentation/1.0:Piano_Roll_Editor#Editing. Detuning a note doesn't work for MIDI-based plugins, i.e. Vestige, SF2 player, OpulenZ and ZynAddSubFX. For those you only have pitch bend for the whole instrument at once. OTOH, ZynAddSubFX has a pretty universal retuning mechanism, see: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/doc_2.html#w2 You could use that for tracks that need pitches outside the 12-tone equal temperament. It should be quite a bit more convenient than separately automating every note of some pitch. > The pitch control is available at instrument level, which means any > constant/automated shift will apply to ALL notes produced by the instrument. This is the minimum level of support for pitch control, it's pretty much equivalent to what MIDI offers in live play. It works for monophonic lines, but is quite a bit more trouble to automate than note detuning as the automation track will be separate from the note segment. There's an issue filed on the tuning subject: https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/1387 > So the solution would be to add a Pitch knob to the Song Editor, which will > allow both pitch-shifting and pitch-bending of specific notes. Wouldn't you need at least two, one to select the note and one to bend? Or 12, if you want to shift/bend more than one note at the same time? -- ra...@ik... softrabbit on #lmms |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 06:32:12
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Hi Tres, I provide long-term support for all my manuals. so far I have written 10+ manuals for different projects. Some of them are almost 10 years old. In fact, I keep updating these manuals as I find time, and that's why I don't share the source (because it would be outdated.) But if someone wants the source for translating, I can provide the source. In fact, I have already done that for the German version of LMMS manual. I will make this more specific in the manual itself, so that more translators can get inspired. Cheers! Narayan On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Tres Finocchiaro <tre...@gm... > wrote: > We haven't discussed this yet, but Raindrops, would you be willing to > offer the current manual to our project in source form (i.e. OpenOffice, MS > Word, etc?) Having the "source" for this manual would ensure we have the > ability to maintain your hard work in the event you leave the project. > > -Tres > > - Tre...@gm... > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stian Jørgensrud <sti...@gm...> > wrote: > >> But it may not be able to produce music of certain types. >>> >>> For example, within the Western music, LMMS cannot create Jazz and Blues >>>> music because they use blues notes, >>> >>> which cannot be produced by the Piano Roll Editor. >>> >>> >> Page 151, Section about World Music. >> Wow I didn't know about *blue notes*, not blues notes cause that would >> be the regular "western ones". Except for them, LMMS is capable of playing >> blues. >> >> In the subsection Limitations of Percussion >> >>> So this is another area where you may feel that LMMS is unable to match >>> the demands of your music. >>> >> >> Yeah, it may feel limiting, but I just realized (the last time I wrote to >> you) why you can place drum notes in the Song Editor when you have zoomed >> in 800% or more. It is because you then just as easily as in the B&B Editor >> can make drums in the Song Editor! So it could be debatable how limiting it >> is. Also some artists tend to write their drums as notes. >> https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=5116 >> >> I don't know if the Limitation of Percussion is meant to only describe >> limitations, and then you describe alternatives in Alternatives to >> Limitation of Percussion :) or if you just could add that it is easy to >> make drums in the Song Editor too. >> >> -- >> Hilsen >> Stian Jørgensrud >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Lmms-users mailing list >> Lmm...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >> >> > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 06:27:45
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*Hi Stian,* *@Piano Editor as BB Editor* Interesting point, Stian! I will definitely include this "workaround". *@Blue notes ("Worried notes"):* I have raised this issue in a separate post. When I posted the first mail, I thought that a neat workaround existed. But then I realized that it is not possible because of a limitation in the LMMS design, and posted a follow-up message almost immediately. To sum up, IMHO the present design of LMMS does not allow us to create the blue notes that are so essential to the Blues/Jazz. Regards, Narayan On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Tres Finocchiaro <tre...@gm... > wrote: > We haven't discussed this yet, but Raindrops, would you be willing to > offer the current manual to our project in source form (i.e. OpenOffice, MS > Word, etc?) Having the "source" for this manual would ensure we have the > ability to maintain your hard work in the event you leave the project. > > -Tres > > - Tre...@gm... > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stian Jørgensrud <sti...@gm...> > wrote: > >> But it may not be able to produce music of certain types. >>> >>> For example, within the Western music, LMMS cannot create Jazz and Blues >>>> music because they use blues notes, >>> >>> which cannot be produced by the Piano Roll Editor. >>> >>> >> Page 151, Section about World Music. >> Wow I didn't know about *blue notes*, not blues notes cause that would >> be the regular "western ones". Except for them, LMMS is capable of playing >> blues. >> >> In the subsection Limitations of Percussion >> >>> So this is another area where you may feel that LMMS is unable to match >>> the demands of your music. >>> >> >> Yeah, it may feel limiting, but I just realized (the last time I wrote to >> you) why you can place drum notes in the Song Editor when you have zoomed >> in 800% or more. It is because you then just as easily as in the B&B Editor >> can make drums in the Song Editor! So it could be debatable how limiting it >> is. Also some artists tend to write their drums as notes. >> https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=5116 >> >> I don't know if the Limitation of Percussion is meant to only describe >> limitations, and then you describe alternatives in Alternatives to >> Limitation of Percussion :) or if you just could add that it is easy to >> make drums in the Song Editor too. >> >> -- >> Hilsen >> Stian Jørgensrud >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Lmms-users mailing list >> Lmm...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >> >> > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 06:18:47
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After I posted the idea, I realized that there is a huge roadblock: The Piano Roll Editor does not allow user to stack instruments like BB Editor. So you cannot replace specific "normal" notes with "blue" notes. When these instruments are stacked in the Song Editor, you cannot interweave the individual notes of different instruments (as in BB Editor). So the solution would be to add a Pitch knob to the Song Editor, which will allow both pitch-shifting and pitch-bending of specific notes. While the pitch-shifting will allow us to create blue notes, the pitch-bending would allow us to play instruments like Sitar and Veena, which have gamak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamaka_%28music%29) in all their notes. Indeed, many keyboards have the pitch-shifter pedals and/or knobs. So if they consider it to be a much-needed control, why not have it accessible in LMMS too? Regards, Narayan On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Raindrops From Sky < rai...@gm...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to add a tip for Jazz/Blue music in the forthcoming version of User > Manual. > > This mail is for those of you who understand Blue/Jazz music. > > (*Note*: I am not into Western music at all. The following discussion is > based on what wikipedia describes. So please be patient and explain the > nuances in detail, so that I can do justice to the subject in the User > Manual.) > > The core issue is, *how to produce Blue notes that are so essential for > Jazz/Blue*. > > The Piano Editor does not allow us to pitch-shift individual notes. > The Song-Editor track does not have a separate knob for Pitch. Thus we > cannot automate it for a specific note. > The pitch control is available at instrument level, which means any > constant/automated shift will apply to ALL notes produced by the instrument. > > So, the moot point is, with these limitations, how to create blue notes in > LMMS? > > Well, one trick that occurs to me is to add another identical instrument > to the Song Editor, with its pitch lowered by the required amount. > Let's call this "worried instrument"! :) > > Whenever the "main" instrument is supposed to play a worried note, the > "worried instrument" plays that same note, which *actually* sounds flat. > > If the musician needs to shift different worried notes by different > amount, he will have to add more "worried instruments", each with a > different pitch shift. > > (This trick is similar to what we do to produce the percussion track in BB > Editor.) > > But I am not sure if this trick would produce an acceptable quality of > blue/jazz music. > We need input from a practicing musician of Blue/Jazz genre. > CAN someone confirm? > > Thanks in advance! > > Regards, > Narayan > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 06:08:22
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Hi all, I want to add a tip for Jazz/Blue music in the forthcoming version of User Manual. This mail is for those of you who understand Blue/Jazz music. (*Note*: I am not into Western music at all. The following discussion is based on what wikipedia describes. So please be patient and explain the nuances in detail, so that I can do justice to the subject in the User Manual.) The core issue is, *how to produce Blue notes that are so essential for Jazz/Blue*. The Piano Editor does not allow us to pitch-shift individual notes. The Song-Editor track does not have a separate knob for Pitch. Thus we cannot automate it for a specific note. The pitch control is available at instrument level, which means any constant/automated shift will apply to ALL notes produced by the instrument. So, the moot point is, with these limitations, how to create blue notes in LMMS? Well, one trick that occurs to me is to add another identical instrument to the Song Editor, with its pitch lowered by the required amount. Let's call this "worried instrument"! :) Whenever the "main" instrument is supposed to play a worried note, the "worried instrument" plays that same note, which *actually* sounds flat. If the musician needs to shift different worried notes by different amount, he will have to add more "worried instruments", each with a different pitch shift. (This trick is similar to what we do to produce the percussion track in BB Editor.) But I am not sure if this trick would produce an acceptable quality of blue/jazz music. We need input from a practicing musician of Blue/Jazz genre. CAN someone confirm? Thanks in advance! Regards, Narayan |
From: Chrissy M. <chr...@ho...> - 2014-12-07 11:33:26
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"7. VeSTige plugin: What do the following controls do? > >> 1. Control VST from LMMS Host" thanks Mikobuntu ;) I'm unsure if this was answered so to the O.P, something like this below could be added to the Manual:- In LMMS's confiuration setting the Sync VST plugins to host playback will force a VST ( instrument or effect ) that has it's own internal midi clock to be synced to LMMS's master clock. This will make sure that a VST plugin is running at the same tempo as the LMMS song. |
From: Stian J. <sti...@gm...> - 2014-12-07 09:15:41
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Here are what the lead developer said: > 1. What does the "Dead" knob do for LB302? Kills the filter envelope. > 2. Do the reverb and chorus for soundfonts activate the effect specifically > for that soundfont, Yes. The soundfont must support reverb/chorus in order for reverb/chorus to have any effect. Not entirely sure how the whole thing works though. > 3. In the ZynAddSubFX plugin, what does Forward MIDI control changes control > do? Forwards MIDI CC commands from LMMS to Zyn. Only works if you have a MIDI controller connected to LMMS. > 4. In SID, what do the following controls do? SYNC, RING, FILTER, TEST Check the WhatsThis. It's explained there. > 5. In Bass booster plugin, what does "Ratio" control do? I reckon it is for > compression of some kind, but not entirely sure. How much bass is boosted. -- From Stian Jørgensrud |
From: Tres F. <tre...@gm...> - 2014-12-06 21:45:57
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We haven't discussed this yet, but Raindrops, would you be willing to offer the current manual to our project in source form (i.e. OpenOffice, MS Word, etc?) Having the "source" for this manual would ensure we have the ability to maintain your hard work in the event you leave the project. -Tres - Tre...@gm... On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stian Jørgensrud <sti...@gm...> wrote: > But it may not be able to produce music of certain types. >> >> For example, within the Western music, LMMS cannot create Jazz and Blues >>> music because they use blues notes, >> >> which cannot be produced by the Piano Roll Editor. >> >> > Page 151, Section about World Music. > Wow I didn't know about *blue notes*, not blues notes cause that would be > the regular "western ones". Except for them, LMMS is capable of playing > blues. > > In the subsection Limitations of Percussion > >> So this is another area where you may feel that LMMS is unable to match >> the demands of your music. >> > > Yeah, it may feel limiting, but I just realized (the last time I wrote to > you) why you can place drum notes in the Song Editor when you have zoomed > in 800% or more. It is because you then just as easily as in the B&B Editor > can make drums in the Song Editor! So it could be debatable how limiting it > is. Also some artists tend to write their drums as notes. > https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=5116 > > I don't know if the Limitation of Percussion is meant to only describe > limitations, and then you describe alternatives in Alternatives to > Limitation of Percussion :) or if you just could add that it is easy to > make drums in the Song Editor too. > > -- > Hilsen > Stian Jørgensrud > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > > |
From: Stian J. <sti...@gm...> - 2014-12-06 20:26:33
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I'll just quote Raine M. Ekman for one: > 3. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section: > What does the "Note" control do? > It forces all MIDI output from the instrument to use the same note. If you want to control a drum machine or something like that you could have all your B&B-tracks go out on the same channel using different notes. And now some answers from me > In *Vestige* plugin, what is the use of the "Turn off all notes" button? Pretty sure it only is there in case some notes get stuck and play forever, this can happen sometimes when automating the pitch of MIDI instruments. It is because LMMS sends a noteON signal for one note, and then noteOff signal for the same note, but when you automate the pitch LMMS will send noteOFF for a new note/tone because you changed the pitch. In *SF2 Player *plugin, what does the CHORUS section do? > Further, what do the following controls do? NUM, LEVEL, SPD, DEPTH > Both the Reverb and Chorus are effects. The point of these two fields is that some SoundFonts have their own chorus and reverb effect, or support it natively or something, so by enabling this you are using the reverb effect and chorus effect for that specific soundfont, or from the SoundFont Player? I wrote this, can't give you any better answer right now. http://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=SF2_Player I'll ask the developers about whether it is effects that follow the soundfont files or if it is effects in the SoundFont Player. So what I will do now is to send a mail on the developer list asking about the rest of the questions. It is needed to document once and for all :) -- From Stian Jørgensrud |
From: Stian J. <sti...@gm...> - 2014-12-06 19:46:18
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> > But it may not be able to produce music of certain types. > > For example, within the Western music, LMMS cannot create Jazz and Blues >> music because they use blues notes, > > which cannot be produced by the Piano Roll Editor. > > Page 151, Section about World Music. Wow I didn't know about *blue notes*, not blues notes cause that would be the regular "western ones". Except for them, LMMS is capable of playing blues. In the subsection Limitations of Percussion > So this is another area where you may feel that LMMS is unable to match > the demands of your music. > Yeah, it may feel limiting, but I just realized (the last time I wrote to you) why you can place drum notes in the Song Editor when you have zoomed in 800% or more. It is because you then just as easily as in the B&B Editor can make drums in the Song Editor! So it could be debatable how limiting it is. Also some artists tend to write their drums as notes. https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=5116 I don't know if the Limitation of Percussion is meant to only describe limitations, and then you describe alternatives in Alternatives to Limitation of Percussion :) or if you just could add that it is easy to make drums in the Song Editor too. -- Hilsen Stian Jørgensrud |
From: Raine M. E. <ra...@ik...> - 2014-12-05 11:02:10
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Quoting Raindrops From Sky <rai...@gm...>: > 1. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section. > What does the green LED labeled "NOTE" do? Didn't I answer this already? It makes all the MIDI notes output from the plugin have the same note number, e.g. for sending out to a drum machine. > 6. In *SID *simulator, what do the following controls do? > SYNC, RING, FILTER, TEST SYNC syncs the oscillator to the previous one (1->3, 2->1, 3->2), RING activates ring modulation (a kind of distroted mix of the waves) in the same way. FILTER enables the internal filter for the oscillator. The filter is controlled by the RES and CUT knobs at the top of the plugin and the type is selected through the HP/BP/LP buttons. TEST basically locks the oscillator and resets its waveform when released. -- ra...@ik... softrabbit on #lmms |
From: Lukas W. <luk...@gm...> - 2014-12-05 08:38:24
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Confirmed. Please file an issue on GitHub for this: https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/new 2014-11-05 6:25 GMT+01:00 Ali Zaid <ali...@gm...>: > Often it seems that whenever I try to preview presets (clicking on the > .xpf file) for the LB302 instrument plugin, lmms crashes, giving a > segmentation fault. Previewing presets/samples from the other instrument > plugins seems fine. I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and lmms 1.0.95 that was > built from source. I made an output using gdb including a full backtrace: > > $ gdb '/usr/local/src/target/bin/lmms' > GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.8-1ubuntu4) 7.8.0.20141001-cvs > Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later > <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" > and "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu". > Type "show configuration" for configuration details. > For bug reporting instructions, please see: > <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>. > Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: > <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>. > For help, type "help". > Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... > Reading symbols from /usr/local/src/target/bin/lmms...done. > (gdb) r > Starting program: /usr/local/src/target/bin/lmms > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] > Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". > [New Thread 0x7fffe6e47700 (LWP 18887)] > [New Thread 0x7fffe6646700 (LWP 18888)] > [New Thread 0x7fffdd201700 (LWP 18889)] > [New Thread 0x7fffdca00700 (LWP 18890)] > [New Thread 0x7fffd3fff700 (LWP 18891)] > Notice: could not set realtime priority. > [Thread 0x7fffd3fff700 (LWP 18891) exited] > [New Thread 0x7fffd3fff700 (LWP 18893)] > [New Thread 0x7fffc0ce2700 (LWP 18894)] > [New Thread 0x7fffc04e1700 (LWP 18895)] > [New Thread 0x7fffbfce0700 (LWP 18896)] > [New Thread 0x7fffbf4df700 (LWP 18897)] > [New Thread 0x7fffbecde700 (LWP 18898)] > [New Thread 0x7fffbe4dd700 (LWP 18899)] > VST sync support disabled in your configuration > [New Thread 0x7fff8ee08700 (LWP 18900)] > [New Thread 0x7fff8e607700 (LWP 18901)] > [New Thread 0x7fff8d89b700 (LWP 18904)] > [New Thread 0x7fff8d09a700 (LWP 18905)] > [Thread 0x7fffdca00700 (LWP 18890) exited] > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread 0x7fffc0ce2700 (LWP 18894)] > __memmove_ssse3_back () at > ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memcpy-ssse3-back.S:1655 > 1655 ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memcpy-ssse3-back.S: No such file or > directory. > (gdb) thread apply all backtrace > > Thread 17 (Thread 0x7fff8d09a700 (LWP 18905)): > #0 0x00007ffff41e439d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 > #1 0x00007ffff6530336 in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 > #2 0x00007ffff653469e in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 > #3 0x00007ffff6571fa5 in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 > #4 0x00000000004e9be5 in AudioAlsa::run (this=0xb94760) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/audio/AudioAlsa.cpp:295 > #5 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #6 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fff8d09a700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #7 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 16 (Thread 0x7fff8d89b700 (LWP 18904)): > #0 0x000000000048e368 in operator int (this=0x7efbc0 > <MixerWorkerThread::globalJobQueue+8192>) at > /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qbasicatomic.h:82 > #1 MixerWorkerThread::JobQueue::wait (this=this@entry=0x7edbc0 > <MixerWorkerThread::globalJobQueue>) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:85 > #2 0x000000000048e564 in MixerWorkerThread::startAndWaitForJobs () at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:147 > #3 0x00000000004e198a in Mixer::renderNextBuffer (this=0xae9180) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/Mixer.cpp:381 > #4 0x00000000004e1de4 in Mixer::fifoWriter::run (this=0x1241e50) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/Mixer.cpp:935 > #5 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #6 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fff8d89b700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #7 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 15 (Thread 0x7fff8e607700 (LWP 18901)): > #0 0x00007ffff41e439d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 > #1 0x000000000048c621 in poll (__timeout=250, __nfds=2, > __fds=0x7fff800013b0) at /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/poll2.h:46 > #2 MidiAlsaSeq::run (this=0xd0d9e0) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/midi/MidiAlsaSeq.cpp:476 > ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- > #3 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fff8e607700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 14 (Thread 0x7fff8ee08700 (LWP 18900)): > #0 0x00007ffff41e439d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 > #1 0x00007ffff5e00461 in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 > #2 0x00007ffff5df18e1 in pa_mainloop_poll () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 > #3 0x00007ffff5df1f7e in pa_mainloop_iterate () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 > #4 0x00007ffff5df2030 in pa_mainloop_run () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 > #5 0x00007ffff5e003f6 in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 > #6 0x00007ffff13a9628 in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-4.0.so > #7 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fff8ee08700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #8 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 13 (Thread 0x7fffbe4dd700 (LWP 18899)): > #0 pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at > ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185 > #1 0x00007ffff684f894 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) > () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #2 0x000000000048e30b in MixerWorkerThread::run (this=0xad96f0) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:159 > #3 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffbe4dd700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 12 (Thread 0x7fffbecde700 (LWP 18898)): > #0 pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at > ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185 > ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- > #1 0x00007ffff684f894 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) > () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #2 0x000000000048e30b in MixerWorkerThread::run (this=0xb2acd0) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:159 > #3 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffbecde700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 11 (Thread 0x7fffbf4df700 (LWP 18897)): > #0 pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at > ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185 > #1 0x00007ffff684f894 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) > () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #2 0x000000000048e30b in MixerWorkerThread::run (this=0xadf870) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:159 > #3 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffbf4df700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 10 (Thread 0x7fffbfce0700 (LWP 18896)): > #0 pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at > ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185 > #1 0x00007ffff684f894 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) > () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #2 0x000000000048e30b in MixerWorkerThread::run (this=0xb0b490) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:159 > #3 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffbfce0700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 9 (Thread 0x7fffc04e1700 (LWP 18895)): > #0 pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at > ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185 > #1 0x00007ffff684f894 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) > () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- > #2 0x000000000048e30b in MixerWorkerThread::run (this=0xad8bc0) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:159 > #3 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffc04e1700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 8 (Thread 0x7fffc0ce2700 (LWP 18894)): > #0 __memmove_ssse3_back () at > ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memcpy-ssse3-back.S:1655 > #1 0x00007ffff686cf4a in QListData::remove(int) () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #2 0x00007ffff686d219 in QListData::erase(void**) () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #3 0x00007fffc4ab96b7 in erase (it=..., this=0x1b1cee0) at > /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h:466 > #4 removeFirst (this=0x1b1cee0) at /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h:286 > #5 takeFirst (this=0x1b1cee0) at /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h:490 > #6 lb302Synth::play (this=0x1b1c7a0, _working_buffer=0xb90580) at > /usr/local/src/plugins/lb302/lb302.cpp:785 > #7 0x00007fffc4abc2d5 in InstrumentPlayHandle::play (this=0x1763690, > _working_buffer=0xb90580) at > /usr/local/src/include/InstrumentPlayHandle.h:75 > #8 0x000000000048e26a in doProcessing (buffer=0xb90580, this=<optimized > out>) at /usr/local/src/include/PlayHandle.h:79 > #9 process (workingBuffer=0xb90580, this=<optimized out>) at > /usr/local/src/include/ThreadableJob.h:69 > #10 MixerWorkerThread::JobQueue::run (this=this@entry=0x7edbc0 > <MixerWorkerThread::globalJobQueue>, _buffer=0xb90580) > at /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:70 > #11 0x000000000048e317 in MixerWorkerThread::run (this=0xad8e00) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/MixerWorkerThread.cpp:160 > #12 0x00007ffff684f39f in ?? 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() from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #4 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffd3fff700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #5 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fffdd201700 (LWP 18889)): > #0 0x00007ffff41e439d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 > #1 0x00007ffff39d9ee4 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #2 0x00007ffff39d9ffc in g_main_context_iteration () from > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #3 0x00007ffff39da039 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #4 0x00007ffff3a00925 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #5 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffdd201700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #6 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fffe6646700 (LWP 18888)): > #0 0x00007ffff41e439d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 > #1 0x00007ffff39d9ee4 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #2 0x00007ffff39da272 in g_main_loop_run () from > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #3 0x00007fffeafecf06 in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0 > #4 0x00007ffff3a00925 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #5 0x00007ffff7bc40a5 in start_thread (arg=0x7fffe6646700) at > pthread_create.c:309 > #6 0x00007ffff41ee84d in clone () at > ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:111 > > Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fffe6e47700 (LWP 18887)): > ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- > #0 0x00007ffff41e439d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 > #1 0x00007ffff39d9ee4 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #2 0x00007ffff39d9ffc in g_main_context_iteration () from > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #3 0x00007fffe6e4f27d in ?? () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gio/modules/libdconfsettings.so > #4 0x00007ffff3a00925 in ?? 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() from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4 > #5 0x00007ffff694e4f1 in > QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #6 0x00007ffff694e805 in > QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #7 0x00007ffff6953f67 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 > #8 0x000000000047dda5 in main (argc=1, argv=0x6) at > /usr/local/src/src/core/main.cpp:511 > (gdb) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-05 08:15:27
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Hi Stian, Thanks a ton for the clarifications! Some of the points where you have raised doubts are actually my mistakes: #1. I copied this from the first version of manualk, without realizing that the record button is actually removed from the BB Editor in the 1.x version of LMMS! #12/13/14 A big oops moment! Somehow my LMMS behaved that way. But when I restarted the PC, all went as before... SORRY! ******* While your mail explains some points, the others are pending. I also have some more doubts. The next list of pending terms is given below. Can you get this clarified from developers? Thanks in advance! 1. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section. What does the green LED labeled "NOTE" do? 2. In * LB302* plugin, what do *Accent* and *Dead* controls do? 3. In *Vestige* plugin, what is the use of the "Turn off all notes" button? 4. In the *ZynAddSubFX *plugin, what does *Forward MIDI control changes* control do? 5. In *SF2 Player *plugin, what does the CHORUS section do? Further, what do the following controls do? NUM, LEVEL, SPD, DEPTH 6. In *SID *simulator, what do the following controls do? SYNC, RING, FILTER, TEST 7. In *Bass booster *plugin, what does "Ratio" control do? Regards, Narayan On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Stian Jørgensrud <sti...@gm...> wrote: > >> 1. Both song/BB editor have a "Record" button. >> How do they differ from each other? > > > They don't? :) Either you can look a the B&B Editor and ascertain that the > B&B Editor don't got a record button, only play and stop. Or, as I guess > you have done, you can find out that you can open the Piano Roll Editor > from the B&B Editor and it will be the same Piano Roll as when opened from > the Song Editor. > > Am I missing something here? > > > >> 2. What does "Project > Save As New Version" menu do? >> Is it relevant now, even after 3 years? > > > It is a new feature, seven months old maybe. It saves your project by > appending increment numbers to your project and you will be able to > continue to work on the latest version without any disruptions. It starts > by adding "-01", so your project called test.mmpz will be called > test-01.mmpz. The next time you save as new version it will get the name > test-02.mmpz. > > > >> 3. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section: >> What does the "Note" control do? > > > I can't find such a feature, are you sure it is called "note control"? It > might be that something have been removed for LMMS 1.1, I am using an > RC/beta version. > > What is new from 0.4.15 there is the way LMMS handles MIDI instruments, so > the option "Custom Base Velocity" has been added. MIDI has velocity from 0 > to 127, while LMMS in the Piano Roll has the option to adjust each note > from 0% to 200%. In old versions of LMMS turning the volume above 100% did > nothing (and eventually started causing a bug so therefore it was changed), > cause 100% was 127 velocity. From LMMS 1.0.0 100% is 63 velocity and 200% > is 127 velocity. > > > 4. What are the practical uses of the *File > Export tracks...* command >> (CTRL+SHFT+E)? > > > Mastering and mixing in other programs, or just editing in other programs. > An important and useful function is that it will not export muted tracks, > so you can choose some tracks you want to export. > > 5. The table for LB302 plugin: >> What do the following parameters do to sound distortion: slide, >> accent, dead. > > > Good question, I see you have already looked at the wiki. I think the wiki > actually is wrong here, I can't understand what slide has to do with > distortion. The slide LED toggle turns slide=portamento on and off and the > knob slide decides how long time it goes before sliding (I think). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_TB-303 > From reading up on this page I can indeed confirm that my thinking was > correct. I have not found out what the "dead" LED toggle is. Maybe making > the sound more monophonic? According to the article there was an accent > function, but I wouldn't say that the "dead" function added accent, more > like the opposite. > > There aren't any accent parameter in LB 302, so the wiki is wrong there > again, could be the original coder of the plugin who wrote the article > before he was finished with the plugin, or it could be someone who have > read the same wikipedia article I just did. > > > 6. Patman plugin: What's "Tune mode"? > > > Much like a soundfont the .pat files contains several samples which is > different recordings of an instrument in this case at different note > frequencies. Without tune mode you will only hear the original samples, > which usually isn't all over the keyboard but only every sixth whole note > for example. In tune mode PatMan will adjust the frequency of the > nearest(?) sample so you can play all the different notes on your keyboard > without having one sample for each key. > > > 7. VeSTige plugin: What do the following controls do? >> 1. Control VST from LMMS Host >> 2. Turn off all notes > > > It opens a window with all accessible parameters as regular LMMS knobs, > this way you can automate those parameters. > > > >> 8. ZynAddSubFX plugin: Forward MIDI control changes -> what does it do? > > > I am no good with MIDI, sorry. If you ask at the developer mailing list > (or ask me to do it) you will probably get better answers at technical > questions such as the LB 302 one. > > > 9. Do the NUMPAD buttons + and - really work in BB Editor?? > > > Yes, and it doesn't have to be the numpad it seems. They change to the > next or previous B&B track. You must have several B&B tracks for it to work. > > >> 10. BB Editor track's context menu: Is the Freeze/unfreeze feature >> removed now? > > > Yes, removed from everywhere. That is also right click menu in Song Editor. > > > 11. Earlier, one step at a time could be added to the BB Editor timeline. >> Since the timeline is always a whole multiple of a measure, some blank >> space was left at the end of the timeline. But the new design adds multiple >> steps to fill up the space, leaving no blank space. Is that correct? > > > Yes. You would have silence at the end anyway in the previous versions, > the beat wouldn't start over one quarter note before the other beats. > > > >> 12. The entire Bassline-related behavior seems to have changed. >> Earlier, it was possible to insert a note of any length. >> Now LMMS allows only a small note that is shorter than 1/32th of a >> measure. > > > What? How? Did it? I want to know!! You can double click on the note area > in B&B Editor to open Piano Roll and enter regular notes of infinity length, > > > 13. Earlier, when we inserted a bassline in a BB Editor track, the track >> used to show the pattern like Song Editor's melody track. But now it only >> displays steps. > > > Hmm, yeah, there is something that have changed with that. Or is it... I > can't explain, don't remember. I know that when you have zoomed in 800% or > more and you have only drum notes it will be displayed as in the B&B > Editor. If you add long notes it will go back to looking like a normal > pattern. > > > >> 14. When we add a bassline note in the nth step in Song Editor, that step >> is supposed to light up in the BB Editor. But practically this does not >> happen: As we go on inserting bassline notes in progressive steps, the BB >> Editor toggles random steps on/off. > > > No, nothing in the Song Editor will show up in the Beat and Bassline > Editor. Has it done that before? > > -- > From > Stian Jørgensrud > |
From: Stian J. <sti...@gm...> - 2014-12-04 21:44:41
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> > > 1. Both song/BB editor have a "Record" button. > How do they differ from each other? They don't? :) Either you can look a the B&B Editor and ascertain that the B&B Editor don't got a record button, only play and stop. Or, as I guess you have done, you can find out that you can open the Piano Roll Editor from the B&B Editor and it will be the same Piano Roll as when opened from the Song Editor. Am I missing something here? > 2. What does "Project > Save As New Version" menu do? > Is it relevant now, even after 3 years? It is a new feature, seven months old maybe. It saves your project by appending increment numbers to your project and you will be able to continue to work on the latest version without any disruptions. It starts by adding "-01", so your project called test.mmpz will be called test-01.mmpz. The next time you save as new version it will get the name test-02.mmpz. > 3. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section: > What does the "Note" control do? I can't find such a feature, are you sure it is called "note control"? It might be that something have been removed for LMMS 1.1, I am using an RC/beta version. What is new from 0.4.15 there is the way LMMS handles MIDI instruments, so the option "Custom Base Velocity" has been added. MIDI has velocity from 0 to 127, while LMMS in the Piano Roll has the option to adjust each note from 0% to 200%. In old versions of LMMS turning the volume above 100% did nothing (and eventually started causing a bug so therefore it was changed), cause 100% was 127 velocity. From LMMS 1.0.0 100% is 63 velocity and 200% is 127 velocity. 4. What are the practical uses of the *File > Export tracks...* command > (CTRL+SHFT+E)? Mastering and mixing in other programs, or just editing in other programs. An important and useful function is that it will not export muted tracks, so you can choose some tracks you want to export. 5. The table for LB302 plugin: > What do the following parameters do to sound distortion: slide, > accent, dead. Good question, I see you have already looked at the wiki. I think the wiki actually is wrong here, I can't understand what slide has to do with distortion. The slide LED toggle turns slide=portamento on and off and the knob slide decides how long time it goes before sliding (I think). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_TB-303 >From reading up on this page I can indeed confirm that my thinking was correct. I have not found out what the "dead" LED toggle is. Maybe making the sound more monophonic? According to the article there was an accent function, but I wouldn't say that the "dead" function added accent, more like the opposite. There aren't any accent parameter in LB 302, so the wiki is wrong there again, could be the original coder of the plugin who wrote the article before he was finished with the plugin, or it could be someone who have read the same wikipedia article I just did. 6. Patman plugin: What's "Tune mode"? Much like a soundfont the .pat files contains several samples which is different recordings of an instrument in this case at different note frequencies. Without tune mode you will only hear the original samples, which usually isn't all over the keyboard but only every sixth whole note for example. In tune mode PatMan will adjust the frequency of the nearest(?) sample so you can play all the different notes on your keyboard without having one sample for each key. 7. VeSTige plugin: What do the following controls do? > 1. Control VST from LMMS Host > 2. Turn off all notes It opens a window with all accessible parameters as regular LMMS knobs, this way you can automate those parameters. > 8. ZynAddSubFX plugin: Forward MIDI control changes -> what does it do? I am no good with MIDI, sorry. If you ask at the developer mailing list (or ask me to do it) you will probably get better answers at technical questions such as the LB 302 one. 9. Do the NUMPAD buttons + and - really work in BB Editor?? Yes, and it doesn't have to be the numpad it seems. They change to the next or previous B&B track. You must have several B&B tracks for it to work. > 10. BB Editor track's context menu: Is the Freeze/unfreeze feature removed > now? Yes, removed from everywhere. That is also right click menu in Song Editor. 11. Earlier, one step at a time could be added to the BB Editor timeline. > Since the timeline is always a whole multiple of a measure, some blank > space was left at the end of the timeline. But the new design adds multiple > steps to fill up the space, leaving no blank space. Is that correct? Yes. You would have silence at the end anyway in the previous versions, the beat wouldn't start over one quarter note before the other beats. > 12. The entire Bassline-related behavior seems to have changed. > Earlier, it was possible to insert a note of any length. > Now LMMS allows only a small note that is shorter than 1/32th of a > measure. What? How? Did it? I want to know!! You can double click on the note area in B&B Editor to open Piano Roll and enter regular notes of infinity length, 13. Earlier, when we inserted a bassline in a BB Editor track, the track > used to show the pattern like Song Editor's melody track. But now it only > displays steps. Hmm, yeah, there is something that have changed with that. Or is it... I can't explain, don't remember. I know that when you have zoomed in 800% or more and you have only drum notes it will be displayed as in the B&B Editor. If you add long notes it will go back to looking like a normal pattern. > 14. When we add a bassline note in the nth step in Song Editor, that step > is supposed to light up in the BB Editor. But practically this does not > happen: As we go on inserting bassline notes in progressive steps, the BB > Editor toggles random steps on/off. No, nothing in the Song Editor will show up in the Beat and Bassline Editor. Has it done that before? -- From Stian Jørgensrud |
From: Tres F. <tre...@gm...> - 2014-12-04 13:54:25
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> AFAIR, it used to work like [only displays steps] this in 0.4 too? That's what I remember as well. - Tre...@gm... On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Raine M. Ekman <ra...@ik...> wrote: > Quoting Raindrops From Sky <rai...@gm...>: > > > 2. What does "Project > Save As New Version" menu do? > > Is it relevant now, even after 3 years? > > It adds a number to the filename and saves the project under the new > name. Next time, it increments the number. So you end up with > project.mmpz, project-01.mmpz, project-02.mmpz and so on. > > > > 3. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section: > > What does the "Note" control do? > > It forces all MIDI output from the instrument to use the same note. If > you want to control a drum machine or something like that you could > have all your B&B-tracks go out on the same channel using different > notes. > > > > 4. What are the practical uses of the *File > Export tracks...* command > > (CTRL+SHFT+E)? > > It exports separate tracks for each instrument in the song editor and > B&B-editor, e.g. for mixing in some other software. > > > > 9. Do the NUMPAD buttons + and - really work in BB Editor?? > > I guess they do, at least on the Ubuntu and Windows systems I have at hand. > > > > 11. Earlier, one step at a time could be added to the BB Editor timeline. > > Since the timeline is always a whole multiple of a measure, some blank > > space was left at the end of the timeline. But the new design adds > multiple > > steps to fill up the space, leaving no blank space. Is that correct? > > Now you can add steps to the whole pattern at once, before you had to > add them separately for each track. But it sure looks like you always > add/remove one bar at a time now. > > > > 12. The entire Bassline-related behavior seems to have changed. > > Earlier, it was possible to insert a note of any length. > > Now LMMS allows only a small note that is shorter than 1/32th of a > > measure. > > > 13. Earlier, when we inserted a bassline in a BB Editor track, the track > > used to show the pattern like Song Editor's mlody track. But now it only > > displays steps. > > I'm not sure what you think has changed in these two, but right-click > on the track and "open in piano-roll", edit and you have a piano-roll > pattern. AFAIR, it used to work like this in 0.4 too? > > > -- > ra...@ik... > softrabbit on #lmms > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > |
From: Raine M. E. <ra...@ik...> - 2014-12-04 13:43:25
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Quoting Raindrops From Sky <rai...@gm...>: > 2. What does "Project > Save As New Version" menu do? > Is it relevant now, even after 3 years? It adds a number to the filename and saves the project under the new name. Next time, it increments the number. So you end up with project.mmpz, project-01.mmpz, project-02.mmpz and so on. > 3. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section: > What does the "Note" control do? It forces all MIDI output from the instrument to use the same note. If you want to control a drum machine or something like that you could have all your B&B-tracks go out on the same channel using different notes. > 4. What are the practical uses of the *File > Export tracks...* command > (CTRL+SHFT+E)? It exports separate tracks for each instrument in the song editor and B&B-editor, e.g. for mixing in some other software. > 9. Do the NUMPAD buttons + and - really work in BB Editor?? I guess they do, at least on the Ubuntu and Windows systems I have at hand. > 11. Earlier, one step at a time could be added to the BB Editor timeline. > Since the timeline is always a whole multiple of a measure, some blank > space was left at the end of the timeline. But the new design adds multiple > steps to fill up the space, leaving no blank space. Is that correct? Now you can add steps to the whole pattern at once, before you had to add them separately for each track. But it sure looks like you always add/remove one bar at a time now. > 12. The entire Bassline-related behavior seems to have changed. > Earlier, it was possible to insert a note of any length. > Now LMMS allows only a small note that is shorter than 1/32th of a > measure. > 13. Earlier, when we inserted a bassline in a BB Editor track, the track > used to show the pattern like Song Editor's mlody track. But now it only > displays steps. I'm not sure what you think has changed in these two, but right-click on the track and "open in piano-roll", edit and you have a piano-roll pattern. AFAIR, it used to work like this in 0.4 too? -- ra...@ik... softrabbit on #lmms |
From: Tres F. <tre...@gm...> - 2014-12-04 13:29:13
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@Narayan, Glad to hear from you! The devel list seems to be the new place for these types of questions. Many more people subscribe and it has a much higher activity than the users list. Furthermore, we have a new group of people helping with documentation and maintaining our wiki, so you should find yourself in good hands. :) Your very-thorough-3-year-old-manual is our 3rd link. :) https://lmms.io/documentation/ But please head over to the devel list or if you'd like, we can host a WIP dedicated bug report for you on GitHub! :) -Tres - Tre...@gm... On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Raindrops From Sky < rai...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > > I have updated the *User Manual* to cover the latest features and changes. > (I had written the manual original more than 3 years ago.) > > I need some missing information quickly to finish the manual, though. > > Can someone help me? > > Regards, > Narayan > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < > tre...@gm...> wrote: > >> Very shortly we hope (days not weeks). We're on what we believe to be >> our final release candidate, we just need some testing results to come back >> in. >> >> We have release candidate 10 available for windows here: (yellow button) >> >> https://lmms.io/download/#windows >> >> >> - Tre...@gm... >> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM, <we...@ma...> wrote: >> >>> when is lmms 1.1 going to be released? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >>> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >>> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >>> >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lmms-users mailing list >>> Lmm...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Lmms-users mailing list >> Lmm...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > > |
From: Raindrops F. S. <rai...@gm...> - 2014-12-04 09:49:30
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Hi Thanks for the prompt response, and appreciation, Raine! You made a good suggestion. I am unable to connect to the IRC channel right now. So I am sharing my list here. I hope that the other users and developers will be able to throw some light. 1. Both song/BB editor have a "Record" button. How do they differ from each other? 2. What does "Project > Save As New Version" menu do? Is it relevant now, even after 3 years? 3. In the Instrument window, MIDI tab, "Enable MIDI" section: What does the "Note" control do? 4. What are the practical uses of the *File > Export tracks...* command (CTRL+SHFT+E)? 5. The table for LB302 plugin: What do the following parameters do to sound distortion: slide, accent, dead. 6. Patman plugin: What's "Tune mode"? 7. VeSTige plugin: What do the following controls do? 1. Control VST from LMMS Host 2. Turn off all notes 8. ZynAddSubFX plugin: Forward MIDI control changes -> what does it do? 9. Do the NUMPAD buttons + and - really work in BB Editor?? 10. BB Editor track's context menu: Is the Freeze/unfreeze feature removed now? 11. Earlier, one step at a time could be added to the BB Editor timeline. Since the timeline is always a whole multiple of a measure, some blank space was left at the end of the timeline. But the new design adds multiple steps to fill up the space, leaving no blank space. Is that correct? 12. The entire Bassline-related behavior seems to have changed. Earlier, it was possible to insert a note of any length. Now LMMS allows only a small note that is shorter than 1/32th of a measure. 13. Earlier, when we inserted a bassline in a BB Editor track, the track used to show the pattern like Song Editor's mlody track. But now it only displays steps. 14. When we add a bassline note in the nth step in Song Editor, that step is supposed to light up in the BB Editor. But practically this does not happen: As we go on inserting bassline notes in progressive steps, the BB Editor toggles random steps on/off. If some description is not clear, I can share a small video. Please let me know... Regards, Narayan On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Raine M. Ekman <ra...@ik...> wrote: > Quoting Raindrops From Sky <rai...@gm...>: > > I had written the original *User Manual* more than 3 years ago. > > ..which is much appreciated. It's a pretty good manual. > > > Now I have updated the manual to cover the latest features and changes. > > And this is even better. Keep up the good work :) > > > > But > > there are still some gaps, and I need some information quickly to finish > > the manual. > > > > Can someone help me? > > I need a quick chat on IRC, Google Hang Out, skype and WhatsApp. > > The channel is #lmms on freenode, but you probably knew that > already... not that there's anything wrong in just asking here on the > list. There's probably someone to answer your every question in those > two places combined. > > > -- > ra...@ik... > softrabbit on #lmms > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Lmms-users mailing list > Lmm...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-users > |