From: scott b. <sil...@ya...> - 2007-07-18 19:32:45
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About AMS : I found this synth has a very good sound quality (better than beast imo). It could be a good idea if one can make a synth in ams, then simply import the ams file to use it as a plugin in lmms. Doing it this way implie that you cannot modify the synth as soon as it has been imported to lmms, but I think this is simpler than running ams+lmms+jack on most system. I see that as a cool way (using ams) to make custom plugin for lmms. Bad point for ams : AFAIK, the only way to make a polyphonic synth is to use a multiplexer and it is not very handy. Do you think lmms could use a monophonic ams plugin and provides it a polyphonic skill ? I very much agree with you. I don't know what AFAIK is though. Ams is a great modular synth but it is also a good realtime effects processor and audio capture program. Iv'e used it as a guitar processor and recorded playing along to my LMMS track, but I have to use my usb sound card in addition to my onboard soundcard to do this. It would make an amazing plugin, especially used as a recording function. My thought about VST plugins : OK it's a "de facto" standard in computer music, but it is not free. Why do not focus us on adding new plugins based on ams or zynaddsubfx or other free software, rather than VST ? ++ Stef I agree also on your ideas concerning VST. This may sound silly but would someone tell me what I need to learn to make ams into a lmms plugin. Scott > SSSSS IIIII L V V A H H A L OOOOO S I L V V A A H H A A L O O SSSSS I L V V AAAAA HHHHH AAAAA L O O S I L V V A A H H A A L O O SSSSS IIIII LLLL V A A H H A A LLLLL OOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. |
From: Paul G. <dr...@gm...> - 2007-08-28 05:44:54
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Just to let you know. I have considering porting zynaddsubfx to LMMS (or at least allowing the two to run in unison) for a while. I can't get around to anything of this magnitude until I finish a number of other projects, including LB303. I agree with trying to make LMMS unique, and not worrying about VST instruments. On that note, a more realistic thing I will be doing over the next few months is porting a number of SynthEdit modules over to LADSPA. These can be used by LMMS and other programs in Linux. Oh, and a granualizer would be nice :). I hope to eventually make a LADSPA-Synth for LMMS. It will work like a modular, but with LADSPA plugins as each module. Of course, I will have to make some Plugins for trivial things like Mixing, Scaling, Inverting, etc.. Just some long term thoughts; something to stimulate the mailing list. -Paul On 7/18/07, scott belden <sil...@ya...> wrote: > > About AMS : I found this synth has a very good sound quality (better than > beast imo). It could be a good idea if one can make a synth in ams, then > simply import the ams file to use it as a plugin in lmms. Doing it this > way implie that you cannot modify the synth as soon as it has been > imported to lmms, but I think this is simpler than running ams+lmms+jack > on most system. > I see that as a cool way (using ams) to make custom plugin for lmms. > > Bad point for ams : AFAIK, the only way to make a polyphonic synth is to > use a multiplexer and it is not very handy. Do you think lmms could use a > monophonic ams plugin and provides it a polyphonic skill ? > > I very much agree with you. I don't know what AFAIK is though. Ams is a > great modular synth but it is also a good realtime effects processor and > audio capture program. Iv'e used it as a guitar processor and recorded > playing along to my LMMS track, but I have to use my usb sound card in > addition to my onboard soundcard to do this. > It would make an amazing plugin, especially used as a recording function. > > My thought about VST plugins : OK it's a "de facto" standard in computer > music, but it is not free. Why do not focus us on adding new plugins based > on ams or zynaddsubfx or other free software, rather than VST ? > > ++ Stef > I agree also on your ideas concerning VST. > > This may sound silly but would someone tell me what I need to learn to make > ams into a lmms plugin. > > Scott > > > > > > > > > SSSSS IIIII L V V A H H A L OOOOO > S I L V V A A H H A A L O O > SSSSS I L V V AAAAA HHHHH AAAAA L O O > S I L V V A A H H A A L O O > SSSSS IIIII LLLL V A A H H A A LLLLL OOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > ________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! > Games. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > > |
From: Thorsten W. <t_...@fr...> - 2007-08-28 07:31:50
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:44:52AM -0400, Paul Giblock wrote: > > I hope to eventually make a LADSPA-Synth for LMMS. It will work like > a modular, but with LADSPA plugins as each module. Of course, I will > have to make some Plugins for trivial things like Mixing, Scaling, > Inverting, etc.. That's the basic concept of Om and it's work-in-progress predecessor Ingen. There hasn't been a release, but it should be in a fairly usable state. Had to step back a bit because the author works on a GSoC project. It handles polyphony (sadly not dynamic) and nesting (patches inside patches). It's even meant to be embeddable into other applications. http://wiki.drobilla.net/Ingen -- Thorsten Wilms Thorwil's Design for Free Software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com |
From: Tobias D. <tob...@gm...> - 2007-08-28 07:56:35
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Am Dienstag, 28. August 2007 07:44:52 schrieb Paul Giblock: > Just to let you know. I have considering porting zynaddsubfx to LMMS > (or at least allowing the two to run in unison) for a while. I can't > get around to anything of this magnitude until I finish a number of > other projects, including LB303. > > I agree with trying to make LMMS unique, and not worrying about VST > instruments. On that note, a more realistic thing I will be doing > over the next few months is porting a number of SynthEdit modules over > to LADSPA. These can be used by LMMS and other programs in Linux. > Oh, and a granualizer would be nice :). > > I hope to eventually make a LADSPA-Synth for LMMS. It will work like > a modular, but with LADSPA plugins as each module. Of course, I will > have to make some Plugins for trivial things like Mixing, Scaling, > Inverting, etc.. Why do you want to realize this using LADSPA? This way you can't make up a= =20 nice/suitable GUI (e.g. some sliders next to next for an equalizer) and all= =20 that. I'd prefer to extend LMMS plugin-API to fit more needs and generally= =20 writing plugins for LMMS ;-) As already mentioned in an earlier mail, in th= e=20 future every other audio-related project could use LMMS-plugins by simply=20 linking against liblmms or whatever. Then it's up to the host-application=20 whether it supports the GUI or not or whether it makes up controls on its o= wn=20 just as LMMS does with LADSPA-plugins. (btw, the LADSPA-"GUI"-support of LMMS needs to be improved, i.e. writing a= =20 general intelligent control-layouter which groups similiar controls and=20 chooses most suitable control-types (knobs, sliders etc.) - this class also= =20 could be used by VeSTige/vst-effect-plugin for either being able to "modify= "=20 VST-plugins without any GUI or (which is even more cool) be able to include= =20 the controls of VST-plugins in event-automation (which we can't do inside t= he=20 WINE-process etc.)). toby =2D-=20 =46reiheit statt Angst -- Stoppt den =DCberwachungswahn! Demo in Berlin, Samstag 22.09.2007 www.freiheitstattangst.de |