From: Maxim L. <max...@gm...> - 2009-05-30 19:27:05
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On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 15:04 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Maxim Levitsky <max...@gm...> wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 14:10 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: > >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Maxim Levitsky <max...@gm...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >> Think of it this way: why is IR special? Isn't it just another input > >> >> method like mouse, keyboard, joystick, touchpad, etc. If it is not > >> >> special, why can't the drivers be implemented in-kernel like all of > >> >> the other Linux input drivers? If you flip this around, why shouldn't > >> >> all of the mouse, keyboard, joystick, touchpad, etc drivers be removed > >> >> from the kernel and reimplemented in user space? > >> > These drivers are very different. > >> > They know the hardware very well, they don't have to use user supplied > >> > config for their job. They fit perfectly the kernel. > >> > >> Checkout keyboard translation tables: > >> man loadkeys > > Well, this is for console, and ugly. > > > > I had a lot of fight with kernel keymaps btw. > > I have even wrote my own keymap. > > I don't use linux console anymore. > > The point of having keymaps in the kernel is so that all apps can > share them. X "the Operating System" is doing a bunch of stuff that > really belongs to the kernel. That is slowly being changed - X doesn't > scan the PCI bus any more. Input is being worked on. Mode setting is > migrating to the kernel. > > Those keymaps inside of X can't be used by command line apps because X > may not be running. That path has led to duplicate keymapping systems. > > Sure we could make a universal keymapping daemon. But that's the > microkernel vs monolithic kernel argument. > > You can push the entire kernel in to user space - UML has already done > it. But do you really want to do that? Lets stop here. I am not against kernel code. period. The opposite is true! Everybody has the right to have its own opinion, I currently think that IR decoding should be done in userspace, _due_ to pure userspace drivers. Best regards, Maxim Levitsky |