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Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] release trigger bug
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From: Mark K. <mar...@gm...> - 2004-12-30 18:30:23
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Garett, Yes, it makes sense to me technically, but not practically. I get that if I could send note-off events only then I could trigger note-off samples. (At least I think that's what you're saying. Correct me if I'm wrong.) I think that I have no way to generate a string of note-off events. It's no big deal to generate a number of note-on/note-off events by editing in Pro Tools. I did this earlier when I helped with the filters and what not. Now I'll just modify some of those files to set the note-off events to a meaningful value for this test. I do not have the Scarbee RSP 73. I've heard good things about it. I do have a few grand piano gig's (Bardstown, Post, Trachtman) that have release samples, but I'm not at all sure how many samples they have. It's my understanding that this test we are talking about only makes a difference on gig files that have multi-velocity release samples. Correct? If it works with gig files that have single velocity release files then I should have no problem testing as I have a number of those. - Mark On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:10:56 -0700, Garett Shulman <shu...@co...> wrote: > Hey Mark, I don't think that the time between noteon and noteoff events > makes a difference. In fact, the noteon event should be irrelevent > (these seem to be playing pretty well). The noteoff event triggers a > completely different sample than an equivelent noteon event on all of > the patches I have. Do you happen to have Scarbee RSP 73? This gig uses > noteoff triggered samples to simulate the sound of the damper striking > the tine as the tine is silenced when the key is released. This should > be quantifiable by comparing the amplitude of recordings you make from > ls and gs in an audio editor (like snd or soundforge). I don't think > you need to bother generating noteon events at all. Is this making > sense? -Garett > > > On Dec 30, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > OK, I found out how to do it in Pro Tools. It's a little painful > > though. > > > > I'll set up a test MIDI file and get ready to record some audio data. > > However it seems that testing this in a quantifiable way could be > > somewhat difficult. Does note-on velocity effect what GSt & LS are > > supposed to do? Does the time between note-on and note-off make a > > difference? (I assume it does...) > > > > What are the current ideas about how this should be looked at? > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:52:48 -0800, Mark Knecht <mar...@gm...> > > wrote: > >> Garett, > >> I have both GSt and LS running side by side so I could do a > >> comparison if: > >> > >> 1) I get LS updated to something new and groovy. > >> > >> and > >> > >> 2) I had access to an appropriate gig file. > >> > >> When you state 'voices based on noteoff velocity' what exactly do you > >> mean? How can I control the note-off velocity? Does the note-off event > >> carry velocity information? If so then how do I effect it? Edit MIDI > >> files in Pro Tools possibly? I've called up Pro Tools and made a MIDI > >> track but it only shows velocity on the initial note-on event. > >> > >> I don't know where Pro Tools keeps an event list editor. I'll check > >> for that. > >> > >> - Mark > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:13:10 -0700, Garett Shulman > >> <shu...@co...> wrote: > >>> Hello Christian, On all of the patches I have that trigger voices > >>> based > >>> on noteoff velocity, the voices seem to playback with excessive > >>> volume > >>> (like the sound of the mute pad striking the tine on the rhodes when > >>> you > >>> release a key). Unfortunatly, I don't have a windows box with gs to > >>> compare to. I can try to produce a recording. Let me know if there is > >>> more specific information I can provide. I get around this problem by > >>> using an alsa sequencer filter that just sets noteoff velocity to 1. > >>> > >>> In regards to the voice bound... Is it possible to set this at > >>> runtime > >>> or compiletime? > >>> > >>> -Garett > >>> > >>> Christian Schoenebeck wrote: > >>> > >>>> Es geschah am Mittwoch 29 Dezember 2004 06:26 als Garett Shulman > >>>> schrieb: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> BTW Mark, Scarbee RSP 73 works fine for me (except for the loud > >>>>> release > >>>>> triggered voices :) ) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi Garett, > >>>> > >>>> could please explain once again what the problem with the release > >>>> trigger > >>>> dimension exactly was? > >>>> > >>>> Btw, maybe we should reduce the default upper limit of voices? > >>>> Currently it's > >>>> bound to 128 voices by default, some older boxes might not be able > >>>> to deliver > >>>> that amount. In future the voice limit, that is the amount of > >>>> voices when > >>>> voice stealing starts to chime in, should be estimated by > >>>> benchmarking. > >>>> > >>>> CU > >>>> Christian > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues > >>>> Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. > >>>> It's fun and FREE -- well, > >>>> almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Linuxsampler-devel mailing list > >>>> Lin...@li... > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>> The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues > >>> Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. > >>> It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Linuxsampler-devel mailing list > >>> Lin...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel > >>> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues > Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. > It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt > _______________________________________________ > Linuxsampler-devel mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel > |
