RE: [Linuxsampler-devel] LinuxSampler & sample library producers NAMM report

[Vladimir S. <ha...@so...>]

Great work, awesome news!

Ideally we should get to a point on the roadmap when sample producers
will be willing to take a particular LS release and approve it for their
samples. Then we won't need a lot of testers/time and they could get
maximum features back from LS.
What are the minimum features for LS to get to that kind of acceptance?
VSTi frontend, clusters, etc is all good stuff too, but I think to get
to that point LS probably just need to implement all the requirements of
the GIG format just like Christian said. So let's get a detailed TODO
list published on that, slice it and go for it!
I should be able to contribute at least every other weekend at this
point.

Regards,
Vladimir.

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NAMM report


Hi,
just back from NAMM where I met lots of sample library producers:

I've met people from the following companies:

- Garritan (orchestral strings)
- Post Musical Instruments (pianos like the high quality Bosendorfer
290)
- SAM Project (Horns)
- Bela Media (Vocal samples)
- Vienna Symphonic Library (produces giant orchestral samples taken from
  the Vienna philarmonica orchester etc)
- Sonic Implants
- Dan Dean  (orchestral samples)
- Scarbee (Bass samples)
- Chickensys (produces Translator, a tool that converts between many
sample formats)

I explained the concept of LS, where we currently are, and what's our 
shor tterm and long term roadmap.
To some I showed LS running on the Mediastation (which contains an
Athlon Linux box), to others we showed LS running on the Laptop of Paul
Davis (he was at NAMM too, really a great person :-) ).

The sampler producers are very enthusiastic about LS, because the
technology is open, free and scalable and will be able to integrate
their own stuff they need to provide superior sample playback
experience.

Most of them already donated sample CDs (in GIG format) that we can use
for development purposes (we will share then among selected and trusted
developers that contribute to the codebase and to testing like Mark
does). Most of those that have not yet donated CDs said they intend to.

The feature they are most excited about is networked LS clusters with a
VSTi frontend on Window PC (or Mac using audiounits), because most of
them produce large orchestral libraries which are impossible to run on a
single machine. (the Vienna guys produce libs of 200GB and more !).

So I think the VSTi networking support in LS will be very important for
adoption in large scale enviroments. Christian said we want to make it
to Hollywood studios and I think if we 
do it right this goal will not be too far away :-)

On the other hand sample library producers have concerns about piracy,
so they are interested if sample content can be protected while keeping
the sampler open. We should think about those issues over the long term.

Anyway I must say I did not expect such a positive response. They are
all very friendly people, mostly 1-4 man based companies and you know
it's easier to talk to such companies than to big companies.

A few of the guys expressed ideas about doing a sampler module based on
an embedded PC (like the VIA) running LS and their sample libraries. One
guy said LS could be turned in a high quality organ with dozen of
registers (which would require 20-30voices (RAM voices) per midi key).

I think sample producers are often dependent on softsampler companies
and often their creativity is limited by those commercial softsamplers
because  the commercial softsamplers often do not implement stuff that
is needed only for certain libraries because it does not pay off to
them, plus they try to keep their engines/sample formats as closed as
possible in order to stay ahead of competing companies.


Regarding distributing the sampling CDs, we should decide who will get
access to them. I propose only people that have shown active
contribution to LS. Be it in form of code or in form of testing like
Mark does.

People that comes to mind: Christian, me, Mark, Vladimir, Rui, Tobias E.
others ?

PS: some of the companies said that once LS gets a bit usable they will
try it out and give us feedback if their sound libraries are played back
correctly.

thoughts ?

cheers,
Benno
http://www.linuxsampler.org





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