Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] Correct sustain pedal emulation (midi hold controller) ?

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Scrive Mark Knecht <mar...@co...>:

> On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 02:12, be...@ga... wrote:
> > Giga seems to have a velocity dynamics problem too.
> 
> Keep in mind that Warren's data here is 3 years old. There have been
> numerous upgrades to GSt. We should take his MIDI file and process out
> the same data, both with GSt and LinuxSampler for verification. Sometime
> this week I will try and do that.
> 
> (I have the Trachtman piano BTW)

ok, if the data is obsoleted the ignore that.
But yes, that you will be able to do A/B tests with the Trachtman piano 
will be very valuable. As always thanks for your contributions Mark.
Keep in mind that volume control is not supported yet in Christian's
articulation stuff so I guess it does not make sense yet to perform 
extensive A/B tests.
Christian what are your plans with the volume articulation ?
Or are there other issues to solve first ?

> 
> > See the very useful comments (with .MID and .GIG test files that show the
> issue)
> > from Warren Trachtman, the maker of the Trachtman Piano for Giga.
> > He talks about the sustain polyphony problem and the piano release mode
> that
> >  does not seem to work.
> 
> But he does give a clue as to what the 'piano release mode' is supposed
> to do, in his mind anyway. That's helpful.

yes.

> 
> > 
> > http://www.wstco.net/gigaissues/
> > 
> > Christian take these velocity issues into account when adding
> > volume support to linuxsampler.
> > 
> > Returning to the pedal polyphony problem: we could provide both
> >  the unlimited voices mode and a limited one, eg you say max 4
> >  voices per key this means if you keep hitting the same key you
> >  if there are more than 4 voices active the older notes will quickly 
> > fade out keeping the polyphony within limits.
> 
> Stay open and have ideas. I think the right answers will likely come
> down to how the sampler plays and what it sounds like. Finding the best
> solutions may come only when we get more musicians involved.

I agree, first make it simple (eg. no limits about the voices
that can be played on a single key) and then extend it.
What were these famous Microsoft tactics again ?
Embrace and extend ? :-)

> Hi,
>   I downloaded (I think) the CVS code. How do I build it? No INSTALL
> instruction file, so I tried:
>
> make -f Makefile.am

We moved away from sourceforge (many are still trying to check out
from sf.net :-) ):

this is the correct command to fetch the CVS:

cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/home/schropp/linuxsampler co
linuxsampler

cheers,
Benno

> 
> - Mark
> 
> 
> 




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