Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] libakai what's next

[Josh G. <jg...@us...>]

On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 16:37, Marek Peteraj wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> 
> AFAIK it makes no difference under linux, you can open a /dev/hd- or a
> /dev/scdx just like a file. 
> 

Sure, but not portable and some strange formats might require low level
hardware control. Once again I'm not opposed to this.

> > 
> > > The thing is that there's a majority of diskbased formats out there
> > > (at least those we need, there's halion and exs24 format as well)
> > > 
> > > http://www.pleasewipeyourfeet.com/webtest/linuxsampler/samplerformat.html
> > > 
> > > Second thing is that libinstpatch is really C, while C++ is more
> > > desirable for this project(i'm not really C++ myself right now, but
> > > there's lots of people here who are C++, there's Benno, Juan, Christian,
> > > Marc, and there's a few more lad members in lurk mode all of which are
> > > c++ afaik :)
> > > 
> > 
> > Nothing stopping libInstPatch++.
> 
> But instead of rewriting it as C++, woudln't it be better to write a new
> one in collaboration with others here(Christian, Paul, Marc, me ...) and
> design it with respect to other popular formats? The main benefit would
> be the experience other people have with them.
> 
> 

No no.. Not re-writing it, having a binding for it. This is what a lot
of the GObject based C libraries have that are related to GTK+ and such.
Thats the plus I think with C, its the least common denominator.

> > > Finally i'd like to say that i'd rather see this project go the "from
> > > scratch" way for everything(format lib, engine, GUI), 
> > 
> > I'd rather see linuxsampler go the way of interoperability, so that
> > other projects can easily integrate and co-operate with linuxsampler.
> 
> JACK :)
> 

Of course. But I also like the abstraction that FluidSynth has, although
SoundFont 2 centric, you can load arbitrary patch formats as long as
they somewhat conform to the SF2 model.

> > Creating one large project is just too un-manageable in my opinion,
> 
> Have a look at ardour, which can be seen as a monster project in the
> linux audio domain. 
> 

Sure, and I've used it. Its still got lots of problems and doesn't have
MIDI support yet. Not to say that it isn't a good thing. Its just, good
things take time.

> Marek

I realize that there is no reason for me to push libInstPatch/Swami
stuff here if no one wants it, I'd rather be doing some actual work. The
reality of it is though, this is work that is already existing and I am
someone who has a lot of time on his hands and am willing to help. You
seem to be voicing stuff as if its the voice of linuxsampler, but I
would like to hear opinions from others of this project.

What linuxsampler I think needs most right now is cooperation and
activity. Go extend libakai if you want, I know that my time would be
more efficiently used by working on libInstPatch. Once you have
something, we can all decide what makes the most sense for inclusion in
linuxsampler.
I think for now I am done with this discussion though and would like to
return to coding. Cheers.
	Josh Green