Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] About commit to Linuxsampler 2013-01-08

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Friday 01 February 2013 00:24:56 Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
> I'm verry sorry for the late reply. I had to much to do and the last week
> and a half has been dedicated to fluefighting.

No problem. I also had no chance yet to follow this topic. Was distracted with 
some other work.

> The ride is tricky, because different parts of the ride can give noise at
> the same time (IE. bell and edge). But in the real life,the ride's context
> will usually be in a mix, so I think that a new hit it should mute the
> previous one, but let it decay over let's say 60-100 ms or something.
[snip]
> A dynamic and natural HH really demands that the previous sample are muted
> when it gets a new hit.

Both solutions, killing and not killing voices at all are both suboptimal. 
However I was also experimenting in a studio with a professional drummer, and 
we both found that the sound is much more worse and unrealistic, if a previous 
voice gets killed too quickly. No matter what kind of samples one is using, it 
would always sound like a digital toy.

> Maybe a Linuxsampler specific opcode or two will fix that? Is it possible
> to do somthing like this in stead of having nomuting as default: A global
> flag (ls_nomute=yes (default?)) and an override opcode that is valid in a
> region (ls_nomute=no) ?
> 
> I think that this way, Linuxsampler can handle a "real" drumset.

Currently I think about using the following 2 changes:

1. hard code a default release time for exclusive groups, which is not too 
fast and not too long, like you said, something around 100ms. GigaStudio seems 
to behave like this. And it would already be a bearable workaround for 
drumkits IMO.

2. Adding extensions to the gig as well as to the sfz format engines, allowing 
to optionally define 2 exact release times for exclusive group kills:

	- 1 parameter for release time for exclusive group killing voices on the 
	same note and

	- 1 release time for exclusive group killing voices on a foreign note.

Maybe Garritan or somebody already invented some opcode for this already?

CU
Christian