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Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Christian,

I come bearing diff patches :)

I've done a bunch of debugging of this and I'm fairly certain my
installation is fine. The latest SVN versions of libgig, linuxsampler and
gigedit are the only ones I have on my PC right now.

If I type each of the following LSCP commands into the LSCP shell directly,
the instrument editor opens fine. Same happens if I open the editor on a
loaded instrument through the JSampler GUI. This does not work if netcat
(or socat) is used to send the commands to Linuxsampler.

For whatever reason,
InstrumentEditorFactory::AvailableEditorsAsString().c_str()
returns empty in InstrumentResourceManager::LaunchInstrumentEditor when
netcat is used and I don't understand why. I understand that when an 'EDIT
CHANNEL INSTRUMENT <num>' command is sent, there'll be a check of the
datatype and dataversion the instrument reports against the output of
matchingeditors(), but it appears it's hit or miss.

*LSCP commands: *
RESET

SET VOLUME 1.0

CREATE MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE JACK
SET MIDI_INPUT_DEVICE_PARAMETER 0 PORTS=1

SET VOLUME 1.0
CREATE AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE JACK ACTIVE=TRUE CHANNELS=2 SAMPLERATE=48000
SET AUDIO_OUTPUT_CHANNEL_PARAMETER 0 0 NAME='Left'
SET AUDIO_OUTPUT_CHANNEL_PARAMETER 0 1 NAME='Right'

SET STREAMS 90
REMOVE MIDI_INSTRUMENT_MAP ALL
ADD CHANNEL
ADD CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT 0 0 0
SET CHANNEL MIDI_INPUT_CHANNEL 0 0
LOAD ENGINE GIG 0
SET CHANNEL VOLUME 0 1.0
SET CHANNEL AUDIO_OUTPUT_DEVICE 0 0
LOAD INSTRUMENT '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/Booms/trailerhits.gig' 0 0

SET STREAMS 90
SET VOICES 90

EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 0

*Sampler output from doing "linuxsampler && cat lscpcommands.lscp | netcat
localhost 8888"*

LinuxSampler 2.2.0.svn9
Copyright (C) 2003,2004 by Benno Senoner and Christian Schoenebeck
Copyright (C) 2005-2021 Christian Schoenebeck
Binary built: Dec 24 2021
Detected features: MMX SSE SSE2
Automatic Stacktrace: Off
Creating Sampler...OK
Registered sampler engines: 'GIG','SF2','SFZ'
Registered MIDI input drivers: ALSA,JACK
Registered audio output drivers: ALSA,JACK
Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
*Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit' *
Registered internal effect systems: LADSPA
no more csLADSPA plugins
failed to load DLL: '/usr/lib/ladspa/autotalent.so', cause:
/usr/lib/ladspa/autotalent.so: undefined symbol: __exp_finite
Registered internal effects: 354
Starting LSCP network server (0.0.0.0:8888)...OK
LinuxSampler initialization completed. :-)

LSCPServer: Client connection established on socket:4.
Unloading instrument editor plugins...OK
libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
jack_port_set_name: deprecated
jack_port_set_name: deprecated
Starting disk thread...OK
EQ support: no
Loading gig file '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/Booms/trailerhits.gig'...OK
Loading gig instrument
('/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/Booms/trailerhits.gig',0)...OK

Caching initial samples...OK
Stopping disk thread...OK
Starting disk thread...OK
EQ support: no
Data type is libgig and data version is 4.3.0.svn34Loading instrument
editor plugins...OK

*Instrument plugin is *

*ERROR: There is not any instrument editor registered to the sampler!
[Cause: Make sure an instrument editor is installed to the sampler's plugin
dir ('/usr/local/lib/linuxsampler/*

*plugins')] We found and registered plugins in
'/usr/local/lib/linuxsampler/plugins' at startup, but currently available
plugins are:  netcat seems to cause issues.*


*Diff patch for debugging/illustration purposes:*

Index: LS-DEBUG/src/engines/gig/InstrumentResourceManager.cpp
===================================================================
--- LS-DEBUG/src/engines/gig/InstrumentResourceManager.cpp      (revision
4010)
+++ LS-DEBUG/src/engines/gig/InstrumentResourceManager.cpp      (working
copy)
@@ -216,6 +216,8 @@
    InstrumentEditor*
InstrumentResourceManager::LaunchInstrumentEditor(LinuxSampler::EngineChannel*
pEngineChannel, instrument_id_t ID,
void* pUserData) throw (InstrumentManagerException) {
        const String sDataType    = GetInstrumentDataStructureName(ID);
        const String sDataVersion = GetInstrumentDataStructureVersion(ID);
+       fprintf (stderr, "Data type is %s and data version is %s\n",
sDataType.c_str(), sDataVersion.c_str());
+       fprintf (stderr, "Instrument plugin is %s\n",
InstrumentEditorFactory::AvailableEditorsAsString().c_str());
        // find instrument editors capable to handle given instrument
        std::vector<String> vEditors =
            InstrumentEditorFactory::MatchingEditors(sDataType,
sDataVersion);
@@ -224,10 +226,16 @@
                fprintf(stderr,
                    "ERROR: There is not any instrument editor registered
to the sampler!\n"
                    "[Cause: Make sure an instrument editor is installed to
the sampler's plugin dir (%s)]\n",
-                    InstrumentEditorFactory::PluginDirsAsString().c_str()
-                );
+
                   InstrumentEditorFactory::PluginDirsAsString().c_str());
+               if (InstrumentEditorFactory::FoundPlugins) {
+                 fprintf (stderr,
+                   "We found and registered plugins in %s at startup, but
currently available plugins are:%s \n",
+                    InstrumentEditorFactory::PluginDirsAsString().c_str(),
+
                  InstrumentEditorFactory::AvailableEditorsAsString().c_str()

+                  );
+                };
                throw InstrumentManagerException(
-                    "There is not any instrument editor installed and
registered to the sampler"
+                    "netcat seems to cause issues."
                );
            }
            fprintf(stderr,
Index: LS-DEBUG/src/plugins/InstrumentEditorFactory.cpp
===================================================================
--- LS-DEBUG/src/plugins/InstrumentEditorFactory.cpp    (revision 4010)
+++ LS-DEBUG/src/plugins/InstrumentEditorFactory.cpp    (working copy)
@@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
    std::map<String, InstrumentEditorFactory::InnerFactory*>
InstrumentEditorFactory::InnerFactories;

    bool InstrumentEditorFactory::bPluginsLoaded = false;
+    bool InstrumentEditorFactory::FoundPlugins = false;

    std::list<void*> InstrumentEditorFactory::LoadedDLLs;

@@ -287,6 +288,7 @@
        }
        closedir(hDir);
        #endif
+       InstrumentEditorFactory::FoundPlugins = true;
        return true;
    }

Index: LS-DEBUG/src/plugins/InstrumentEditorFactory.h
===================================================================
--- LS-DEBUG/src/plugins/InstrumentEditorFactory.h      (revision 4010)
+++ LS-DEBUG/src/plugins/InstrumentEditorFactory.h      (working copy)
@@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
        static String              PluginDirsAsString();
        static std::vector<String> AvailableEditors();
        static String              AvailableEditorsAsString();
+       static bool                FoundPlugins;
        static std::vector<String> MatchingEditors(String sTypeName, String
sTypeVersion);
        static void                LoadPlugins();
        static void                ClosePlugins();

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] midi message fantasia note off

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Jan,

I would imagine it's a simple enough NOTE_OFF event is all. Just to
illustrate the code from jlscp's event/MidiDataEvent:

ackage org.linuxsampler.lscp.event;

/**
* A semantic event which indicates that MIDI data has arrived.
* @author Grigor Iliev
*/
public class MidiDataEvent extends java.util.EventObject {
       public static enum Type {
               NOTE_ON  ("NOTE_ON"),
               NOTE_OFF ("NOTE_OFF"),
               CC       ("CC");



Andrew.

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 11:58 AM Jan Flikweert <fl...@ze...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Which midi messages does Fantasia send for a note-off event after
> releasing a key on the keyboard from its main screen?
>
>
>
> I tried with midi-ox but that did not work.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Jan Flikweert
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[Linuxsampler-devel] midi message fantasia note off

[Jan F. <fl...@ze...>]

Hi all,

 

Which midi messages does Fantasia send for a note-off event after releasing
a key on the keyboard from its main screen?

 

I tried with midi-ox but that did not work.

 

Kind regards,

 

Jan Flikweert

[Linuxsampler-devel] linuxsampler 4010 build failed on loongarch64

[Quick K. <hep...@ya...>]

<div>Relevant lines from build log:</div><div>-------------------------------</div><div>libtool: compile:  loongarch64-linux-gnu-g++ -std=gnu++14 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -Wreturn-type -ffast-math -g -O2 -pthread -MT RTMath.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/RTMath.Tpo -c RTMath.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/RTMath.o<br />RTMath.cpp:77:8: error: #error "Sorry, LinuxSampler lacks time stamp code for your system." <br /></div><div>     #  error "Sorry, LinuxSampler lacks time stamp code for your system." <br /></div><div>        ^~~~~ <br /></div><div>RTMath.cpp:78:8: error: #error "Please report this error and the CPU you are using to the LinuxSampler developers mailing list!" <br /></div><div>     #  error "Please report this error and the CPU you are using to the LinuxSampler developers mailing list!" <br /></div><div>        ^~~~~ <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>-------------------</div><div>version 4010</div><div><br /></div><div>model: Loongson-3A5000LL</div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Quick Kormos<br /></div>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2021 21:09:39 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Not trying to be intentionally obtuse here. :)
> 
> I started completely from scratch again. Totally cleaned out /usr/local/
> (fresh ubuntu distro, so only Linuxsampler and co was living there from the
> last install attempt), deleted the LS SVN directories and redownloaded
> them.
> 
> Still getting the same error from Linuxsampler regarding no matching editor
> for a gig instrument. The plugin paths do appear to match too:

I just committed additional, more verbose error messages:
http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi?view=revision&revision=4010

There is now a clear distinguishment between whether there are any instrument 
editor plugins installed at all, or whether there are some but are binary 
incompatible, and also what to do about. The sampler also prints you the exact 
expected directory for the instrument editor plugins.

You should now have all the tools you need to resolve this installation issue. 
If you still cannot, then you have to debug it. I provided you all the code 
locations involved on both sides (LS and Gigedit).

Good luck!

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Christian,

Not trying to be intentionally obtuse here. :)

I started completely from scratch again. Totally cleaned out /usr/local/
(fresh ubuntu distro, so only Linuxsampler and co was living there from the
last install attempt), deleted the LS SVN directories and redownloaded
them.

Still getting the same error from Linuxsampler regarding no matching editor
for a gig instrument. The plugin paths do appear to match too:

andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild$ cd gigedit/
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/gigedit$ grep LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR
config.lo
g
LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR='${libdir}/linuxsampler/plugins'
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/gigedit$ grep '^libdir=' config.log
libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib'
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/gigedit$ grep '^exec_prefix=' config.log
exec_prefix='${prefix}'
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/gigedit$ grep '^prefix=' config.log
prefix='/usr/local'
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/gigedit$ cd ../linuxsampler/
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/linuxsampler$ grep config_plugin_dir
config.log
config_plugin_dir='/usr/local/lib/linuxsampler/plugins'
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/linuxsampler$  ls -l
/usr/local/lib/linuxsample
r/plugins
total 2480
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1610998 Dec 22 19:28 libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.a
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    1561 Dec 22 19:28 libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.la
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  920904 Dec 22 19:28 libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.so
andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild/linuxsampler$

Many thanks!

Andrew.


On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 5:35 PM Christian Schoenebeck <
sch...@li...> wrote:

> On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2021 17:04:14 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > Thanks for the increased verbose output with that patch. I recompiled all
> > three of them again and I'm getting this in the console output of
> > Linuxsampler now:
> >
> > ERROR: Did not find a matching editor for instrument
> > ('/home/andrew/Desktop/S
> > amples/Booms/trailerhits.gig', 0) having data structure
> > ('libgig','4.3.0.svn3
> > 4')
> > There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
>
> Yep, which proofs that you are using a mixed installation of an old
> gigedit
> version in combination with a new LS version. Otherwise gigedit would have
> barked as well now, which it didn't, right?
>
> Please read my other emails that I already sent on this topic. This is
> very
> unlikely a bug in LS, but simply a messy installation there. I know it's
> inconvenient, but that's how it is.
>
> To avoid confusion, I would start by getting rid of the other LS version
> that
> you obviously have installed somewhere in parallel on your system,
> otherwise
> you would not get two different behaviours when requesting to launch an
> instrument editor with JSampler when LS was already running vs. not
> running.
>
> QSampler and JSampler really just send a "EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT
> <number>"
> command as ASCII text line to the sampler. There is absolutely no magic
> about
> it. The only thing that you could do wrong with netcat here was to supply
> a
> wrong channel number, which you can also very easily verify by sending
> "LIST
> CHANNELS" to get the current valid channel IDs.
>
> After you got rid of the other LS installation, make sure that the LS
> plugin
> path of gigedit and LS match. By default they do, but if you are fiddling
> with
> installation pathes then they might not:
>
>         $ cd YOUR_GIGEDIT_SOURCEDIR
>         $ grep LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR config.log
>         LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR='${libdir}/linuxsampler/plugins
>         $ grep '^libdir=' config.log
>         libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib'
>         $ grep '^exec_prefix=' config.log
>         exec_prefix='${prefix}'
>         $ grep '^prefix=' config.log
>         prefix='/usr'
>
>         $ cd YOUR_LS_SOURCEDIR
>         $ grep config_plugin_dir config.log
>         config_plugin_dir='/usr/lib/linuxsampler/plugins'
>         $ ls -l /usr/lib/linuxsampler/plugins
>         -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1877636 May  9  2021
> libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.a
>         -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1538 May  9  2021
> libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.la
>         -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1004320 May  9  2021
> libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.so
>
> CU
> Christian
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2021 17:04:14 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Thanks for the increased verbose output with that patch. I recompiled all
> three of them again and I'm getting this in the console output of
> Linuxsampler now:
> 
> ERROR: Did not find a matching editor for instrument
> ('/home/andrew/Desktop/S
> amples/Booms/trailerhits.gig', 0) having data structure
> ('libgig','4.3.0.svn3
> 4')
> There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument

Yep, which proofs that you are using a mixed installation of an old gigedit 
version in combination with a new LS version. Otherwise gigedit would have 
barked as well now, which it didn't, right?

Please read my other emails that I already sent on this topic. This is very 
unlikely a bug in LS, but simply a messy installation there. I know it's 
inconvenient, but that's how it is.

To avoid confusion, I would start by getting rid of the other LS version that 
you obviously have installed somewhere in parallel on your system, otherwise 
you would not get two different behaviours when requesting to launch an 
instrument editor with JSampler when LS was already running vs. not running.

QSampler and JSampler really just send a "EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT <number>" 
command as ASCII text line to the sampler. There is absolutely no magic about 
it. The only thing that you could do wrong with netcat here was to supply a 
wrong channel number, which you can also very easily verify by sending "LIST 
CHANNELS" to get the current valid channel IDs.

After you got rid of the other LS installation, make sure that the LS plugin 
path of gigedit and LS match. By default they do, but if you are fiddling with 
installation pathes then they might not:

	$ cd YOUR_GIGEDIT_SOURCEDIR
	$ grep LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR config.log
	LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR='${libdir}/linuxsampler/plugins
	$ grep '^libdir=' config.log
	libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib'
	$ grep '^exec_prefix=' config.log
	exec_prefix='${prefix}'
	$ grep '^prefix=' config.log
	prefix='/usr'

	$ cd YOUR_LS_SOURCEDIR
	$ grep config_plugin_dir config.log
	config_plugin_dir='/usr/lib/linuxsampler/plugins'
	$ ls -l /usr/lib/linuxsampler/plugins
	-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1877636 May  9  2021 libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.a
	-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1538 May  9  2021 libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.la
	-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1004320 May  9  2021 libgigeditlinuxsamplerplugin.so

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Christian,

Thanks for the increased verbose output with that patch. I recompiled all
three of them again and I'm getting this in the console output of
Linuxsampler now:

ERROR: Did not find a matching editor for instrument
('/home/andrew/Desktop/S
amples/Booms/trailerhits.gig', 0) having data structure
('libgig','4.3.0.svn3
4')
There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument

Andrew.


On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 3:06 PM Christian Schoenebeck <
sch...@li...> wrote:

> On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2021 14:15:20 CET Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 19:18:44 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > > Thanks for that, Christian, I'll give some other netcat variants a go
> and
> > > see what I can get back.
> > >
> > > My Instrument Editor plugins are definitely being picked up by
> > > LInuxsampler
> > > on start:
> > >
> > > andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild$ linuxsampler
> > > LinuxSampler 2.2.0.svn7
> > > Copyright (C) 2003,2004 by Benno Senoner and Christian Schoenebeck
> > > Copyright (C) 2005-2021 Christian Schoenebeck
> > > Binary built: Dec 20 2021
> > > Detected features: MMX SSE SSE2
> > > Automatic Stacktrace: Off
> > > Creating Sampler...OK
> > > Registered sampler engines: 'GIG','SF2','SFZ'
> > > Registered MIDI input drivers: ALSA,JACK
> > > Registered audio output drivers: ALSA,JACK
> > > Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> > > Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'
> [...]
> > > Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> > > There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
> >
> > Most likely reason for this: you compiled LS, but are using a third-party
> > compiled gigedit version. For live-editing support with gigedit all
> involved
> > components need to be binary compatible, because in live-editing mode
> they
> > share the same process and in memory data.
> >
> > I recommend you recompile
> >
> > 1. libgig
> > 2. linuxsampler
> > 3. gigedit
> >
> > in this order. And make sure that you have actually installed the
> respective
> > component (in the same order) before compiling the next one, because in
> > that sequence they will access the header files of the former during
> > compilation.
>
> I just made this more clear by showing more detailed error messages on
> terminal, both on gigedit side:
> http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi?view=revision&revision=4008
>
> and on linuxsampler side:
> http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi?view=revision&revision=4009
>
> CU
> Christian
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2021 14:15:20 CET Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 19:18:44 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > Thanks for that, Christian, I'll give some other netcat variants a go and
> > see what I can get back.
> > 
> > My Instrument Editor plugins are definitely being picked up by
> > LInuxsampler
> > on start:
> > 
> > andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild$ linuxsampler
> > LinuxSampler 2.2.0.svn7
> > Copyright (C) 2003,2004 by Benno Senoner and Christian Schoenebeck
> > Copyright (C) 2005-2021 Christian Schoenebeck
> > Binary built: Dec 20 2021
> > Detected features: MMX SSE SSE2
> > Automatic Stacktrace: Off
> > Creating Sampler...OK
> > Registered sampler engines: 'GIG','SF2','SFZ'
> > Registered MIDI input drivers: ALSA,JACK
> > Registered audio output drivers: ALSA,JACK
> > Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> > Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'
[...]
> > Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> > There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
> 
> Most likely reason for this: you compiled LS, but are using a third-party
> compiled gigedit version. For live-editing support with gigedit all involved
> components need to be binary compatible, because in live-editing mode they
> share the same process and in memory data.
> 
> I recommend you recompile
> 
> 1. libgig
> 2. linuxsampler
> 3. gigedit
> 
> in this order. And make sure that you have actually installed the respective
> component (in the same order) before compiling the next one, because in
> that sequence they will access the header files of the former during
> compilation.

I just made this more clear by showing more detailed error messages on 
terminal, both on gigedit side:
http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi?view=revision&revision=4008

and on linuxsampler side:
http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi?view=revision&revision=4009

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2021 14:45:59 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Can confirm that is the order I compiled and installed the 3 pieces on this
> new Linux installation.
> 
> JSampler opens the editor in real-time mode, as does the LSCP commandline
> **but** only when JSampler has previously connected to LinuxSampler. In a
> standalone mode with simply netcatting the same lscp commands JSampler uses
> to set up the midi, audio and sampler channels, using the LSCP commandline
> "EDIT INSTRUMENT CHANNEL 0" produces the error about no suitable instrument
> editor being found.

And that in turn sounds like you have two different LS versions somewhere 
(e.g. /usr/bin vs. /usr/local/bin/, etc.).

Both QSampler and JSampler are able to launch linuxsampler automatically if 
needed. If the sampler is not running yet, they will try to start linuxsampler 
by their configurable linuxsampler binary path, e.g. "/usr/bin/linuxsampler".

If the sampler is already running (i.e. if they can connect to TCP port 8888), 
then the will not start linuxsampler and just use the already running sampler 
instance. Which is handy, because you can quickly play around with a developer 
version of LS for instance without needing to install it anywhere. I am using 
that a lot.

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Christian,

Can confirm that is the order I compiled and installed the 3 pieces on this
new Linux installation.

JSampler opens the editor in real-time mode, as does the LSCP commandline
**but** only when JSampler has previously connected to LinuxSampler. In a
standalone mode with simply netcatting the same lscp commands JSampler uses
to set up the midi, audio and sampler channels, using the LSCP commandline
"EDIT INSTRUMENT CHANNEL 0" produces the error about no suitable instrument
editor being found.

Thanks,

Andrew.

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 1:15 PM Christian Schoenebeck <
sch...@li...> wrote:

> On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 19:18:44 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > Thanks for that, Christian, I'll give some other netcat variants a go and
> > see what I can get back.
> >
> > My Instrument Editor plugins are definitely being picked up by
> LInuxsampler
> > on start:
> >
> > andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild$ linuxsampler
> > LinuxSampler 2.2.0.svn7
> > Copyright (C) 2003,2004 by Benno Senoner and Christian Schoenebeck
> > Copyright (C) 2005-2021 Christian Schoenebeck
> > Binary built: Dec 20 2021
> > Detected features: MMX SSE SSE2
> > Automatic Stacktrace: Off
> > Creating Sampler...OK
> > Registered sampler engines: 'GIG','SF2','SFZ'
> > Registered MIDI input drivers: ALSA,JACK
> > Registered audio output drivers: ALSA,JACK
> > Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> > Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'
> > Registered internal effect systems: LADSPA
> > no more csLADSPA plugins
> > failed to load DLL: '/usr/lib/ladspa/autotalent.so', cause:
> > /usr/lib/ladspa/a
> > utotalent.so: undefined symbol: __exp_finite
> > Registered internal effects: 354
> > Starting LSCP network server (0.0.0.0:8888)...OK
> > LinuxSampler initialization completed. :-)
> >
> > and if I use a previously saved lscp commands from jsampler and simply
> > netcat it into linuxsampler, the engine cannot find a compatible
> instrument
> > editor for a gig file (I also tried to see what would happen if I edited
> > the nonexistant sampler channel 1).
> > and also, it will hang on attempting to control-C out of the server
> itself:
> > libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
> > jack_port_set_name: deprecated
> > libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
> > jack_port_set_name: deprecated
> > Jack: Cannot connect port 'AO-Strings:0' to port 'NONE'
> > jack_port_set_name: deprecated
> > Jack: Cannot connect port 'AO-Strings:1' to port 'NONE'
> > Starting disk thread...OK
> > EQ support: no
> > Scheduling '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig' (Index=1)
> to
> > be
> > loaded in background (if not loaded yet).
> > Loading gig file '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig'...OK
> > Loading gig instrument
> > ('/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig',1)
> > ...OK
> > Caching initial samples...OK
> > LSCPServer: Client connection established on socket:26.
> > Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> > There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
>
> Most likely reason for this: you compiled LS, but are using a third-party
> compiled gigedit version. For live-editing support with gigedit all
> involved
> components need to be binary compatible, because in live-editing mode they
> share the same process and in memory data.
>
> I recommend you recompile
>
> 1. libgig
> 2. linuxsampler
> 3. gigedit
>
> in this order. And make sure that you have actually installed the
> respective
> component (in the same order) before compiling the next one, because in
> that
> sequence they will access the header files of the former during
> compilation.
>
> CU
> Christian
>
>
>
>
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> Linuxsampler-devel mailing list
> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel
>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Grigor I. <gr....@gm...>]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 3:07 PM Christian Schoenebeck
<sch...@li...> wrote:
> Any clue which JRE version starts to make this necessary?

I think it is Java 9 - when the module system was introduced (Jigsaw).

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 19:18:44 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Thanks for that, Christian, I'll give some other netcat variants a go and
> see what I can get back.
> 
> My Instrument Editor plugins are definitely being picked up by LInuxsampler
> on start:
> 
> andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild$ linuxsampler
> LinuxSampler 2.2.0.svn7
> Copyright (C) 2003,2004 by Benno Senoner and Christian Schoenebeck
> Copyright (C) 2005-2021 Christian Schoenebeck
> Binary built: Dec 20 2021
> Detected features: MMX SSE SSE2
> Automatic Stacktrace: Off
> Creating Sampler...OK
> Registered sampler engines: 'GIG','SF2','SFZ'
> Registered MIDI input drivers: ALSA,JACK
> Registered audio output drivers: ALSA,JACK
> Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'
> Registered internal effect systems: LADSPA
> no more csLADSPA plugins
> failed to load DLL: '/usr/lib/ladspa/autotalent.so', cause:
> /usr/lib/ladspa/a
> utotalent.so: undefined symbol: __exp_finite
> Registered internal effects: 354
> Starting LSCP network server (0.0.0.0:8888)...OK
> LinuxSampler initialization completed. :-)
> 
> and if I use a previously saved lscp commands from jsampler and simply
> netcat it into linuxsampler, the engine cannot find a compatible instrument
> editor for a gig file (I also tried to see what would happen if I edited
> the nonexistant sampler channel 1).
> and also, it will hang on attempting to control-C out of the server itself:
> libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
> jack_port_set_name: deprecated
> libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
> jack_port_set_name: deprecated
> Jack: Cannot connect port 'AO-Strings:0' to port 'NONE'
> jack_port_set_name: deprecated
> Jack: Cannot connect port 'AO-Strings:1' to port 'NONE'
> Starting disk thread...OK
> EQ support: no
> Scheduling '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig' (Index=1) to
> be
> loaded in background (if not loaded yet).
> Loading gig file '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig'...OK
> Loading gig instrument
> ('/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig',1)
> ...OK
> Caching initial samples...OK
> LSCPServer: Client connection established on socket:26.
> Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
> There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument

Most likely reason for this: you compiled LS, but are using a third-party 
compiled gigedit version. For live-editing support with gigedit all involved 
components need to be binary compatible, because in live-editing mode they 
share the same process and in memory data.

I recommend you recompile

1. libgig
2. linuxsampler
3. gigedit

in this order. And make sure that you have actually installed the respective 
component (in the same order) before compiling the next one, because in that 
sequence they will access the header files of the former during compilation.

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 19:00:00 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi Grigor,
> 
> Thanks a bunch for that add-exports switch. JSampler is working fine now,
> save for some creaky warning messages on JRE 18.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 5:04 PM Grigor Iliev <gr....@gm...> wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> > You should be able to launch JSampler with latest JRE using the
> > following command:
> > 
> > java --add-exports java.desktop/sun.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED -jar
> > /path/to/Fantasia-0.9.jar

Good to know that this is working, thanks Grigor!

Any clue which JRE version starts to make this necessary?

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Thanks for that, Christian, I'll give some other netcat variants a go and
see what I can get back.

My Instrument Editor plugins are definitely being picked up by LInuxsampler
on start:

andrew@andrewlaptop:~/LSBuild$ linuxsampler
LinuxSampler 2.2.0.svn7
Copyright (C) 2003,2004 by Benno Senoner and Christian Schoenebeck
Copyright (C) 2005-2021 Christian Schoenebeck
Binary built: Dec 20 2021
Detected features: MMX SSE SSE2
Automatic Stacktrace: Off
Creating Sampler...OK
Registered sampler engines: 'GIG','SF2','SFZ'
Registered MIDI input drivers: ALSA,JACK
Registered audio output drivers: ALSA,JACK
Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'
Registered internal effect systems: LADSPA
no more csLADSPA plugins
failed to load DLL: '/usr/lib/ladspa/autotalent.so', cause:
/usr/lib/ladspa/a
utotalent.so: undefined symbol: __exp_finite
Registered internal effects: 354
Starting LSCP network server (0.0.0.0:8888)...OK
LinuxSampler initialization completed. :-)

and if I use a previously saved lscp commands from jsampler and simply
netcat it into linuxsampler, the engine cannot find a compatible instrument
editor for a gig file (I also tried to see what would happen if I edited
the nonexistant sampler channel 1).
and also, it will hang on attempting to control-C out of the server itself:
libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
jack_port_set_name: deprecated
libjackBufferSizeCallback(1024)
jack_port_set_name: deprecated
Jack: Cannot connect port 'AO-Strings:0' to port 'NONE'
jack_port_set_name: deprecated
Jack: Cannot connect port 'AO-Strings:1' to port 'NONE'
Starting disk thread...OK
EQ support: no
Scheduling '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig' (Index=1) to
be
loaded in background (if not loaded yet).
Loading gig file '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig'...OK
Loading gig instrument
('/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig',1)
...OK
Caching initial samples...OK
LSCPServer: Client connection established on socket:26.
Loading instrument editor plugins...OK
There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
Invalid sampler channel number 1
LSCPServer: Client connection terminated on socket:4.
LSCPServer: Client connection terminated on socket:26.
^CFreeing gig file '/home/andrew/Desktop/Samples/String_ensemble.gig' from
me
mory ...OK
Stopping disk thread...OK
Unloading instrument editor plugins...OK
^C^C



JSampler, for example, doesn't exhibit this behaviour with the instrument
editor, strangely enough.
I fear I may be opening up a vast debugging can of worms here!!


On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 5:13 PM Christian Schoenebeck <
sch...@li...> wrote:

> On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 17:42:29 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > Unfortunately no, I wasn't running a command in parallel to the GET
> > command, all my instruments had already loaded by the time I tried the
> GET
> > command.
> > The LSCP shell/CLI utility works absolutely fine every time I send such a
> > GET command, so perhaps it's my netcatting that's the issue here for some
> > reason. Not sure if there would be more scriptable methods of reliably
> > getting the data from Linuxsampler.
>
> Ok, then you might just try some of the numerous other netcat derivates.
> Altough it sounds a bit strange that you got a much different latency with
> the
> LSCP shell than with nc.
>
> As this is really a simple text based network protocol, there are endless
> of
> other possibilities, like writing a simple Python script or whatever.
>
> > Also, on the note of using the lscp CLI/netcat commands to Linuxsampler
> for
> > the instrument editor, it seems it doesn't work on my end:
> > lscp=# EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 1
> > ERR:0:There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
> > lscp=# EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 0
> > ERR:0:There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
> >
> > Both files were loaded using the GIG engine and gigedit/Linuxsampler are
> > installed in /usr/local.. Perhaps my PATH or ldconfig needs updating?
>
> When linuxsampler is launched, you see a bunch of information, which also
> includes the following line:
>
>         Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'
>
> If "gigedit" is missing in that line, then because the sampler did not
> find
> gigedit's plugin in the sampler's plugin directory. You can change the
> sampler's default plugin path at compile time:
>
>         ./configure --enable-plugin-dir=/some/where
>
> As well as overriding it by environment variable before launching
> linuxsampler. From "man linuxsampler":
>
> ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
>        LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR
>               Allows to override the directory where LinuxSampler shall
> look
>               for instrument editor plugins.
>
> Note, there is also --exec-after-init BTW.
>
> CU
> Christian
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linuxsampler-devel mailing list
> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel
>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Grigor,

Thanks a bunch for that add-exports switch. JSampler is working fine now,
save for some creaky warning messages on JRE 18.

Andrew.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 5:04 PM Grigor Iliev <gr....@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> You should be able to launch JSampler with latest JRE using the
> following command:
>
> java --add-exports java.desktop/sun.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED -jar
> /path/to/Fantasia-0.9.jar
>
> There might also be other module permission/access issues, which
> should be easy to fix by using additional --add-exports and
> --add-opens options, if needed.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have spare time for free projects anymore and I
> don't think that I'll be able to find time to work on JSampler in near
> future.
>
> Regards,
> Grigor.
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 11:53 AM Andrew C <cou...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm running into some critical errors with openJDK/JRE versions 16/18
> and trying to run JSampler. It appears there are some older classes that
> are no longer supported in these versions or perhaps need a bit more
> wriggling to accommodate the JSampler code?
> >
> > Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.IllegalAccessError:
> class
> > org.jsampler.view.fantasia.basic.PixmapPane (in unnamed module
> @0x248d4f4a)
> > cannot access class sun.swing.plaf.synth.Paint9Painter (in module
> java.des
> > ktop) because module java.desktop does not export sun.swing.plaf.synth
> to u
> > nnamed module @0x248d4f4a
> >
> > I know this is/was(?) Grishata's project and I lack the knowledge to
> even begin trying to fix this up, but was wondering if anyone else has
> encountered this and if there are workarounds for it?
> >
> > The alternative, if I cannot get it working would have to be diving into
> sending LSCP commands to Linuxsampler via Netcat. That should be fun! ;)
> >
> > A question for Christian, but is it possible through LSCP to tell
> Linuxsampler to open gigedit "Live" on an instrument, so as to edit in
> real-time, or was that a special function of JSampler?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andrew.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Linuxsampler-devel mailing list
> > Lin...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel
>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 17:42:29 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Unfortunately no, I wasn't running a command in parallel to the GET
> command, all my instruments had already loaded by the time I tried the GET
> command.
> The LSCP shell/CLI utility works absolutely fine every time I send such a
> GET command, so perhaps it's my netcatting that's the issue here for some
> reason. Not sure if there would be more scriptable methods of reliably
> getting the data from Linuxsampler.

Ok, then you might just try some of the numerous other netcat derivates. 
Altough it sounds a bit strange that you got a much different latency with the 
LSCP shell than with nc.

As this is really a simple text based network protocol, there are endless of 
other possibilities, like writing a simple Python script or whatever.

> Also, on the note of using the lscp CLI/netcat commands to Linuxsampler for
> the instrument editor, it seems it doesn't work on my end:
> lscp=# EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 1
> ERR:0:There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
> lscp=# EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 0
> ERR:0:There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
> 
> Both files were loaded using the GIG engine and gigedit/Linuxsampler are
> installed in /usr/local.. Perhaps my PATH or ldconfig needs updating?

When linuxsampler is launched, you see a bunch of information, which also 
includes the following line:

	Registered instrument editors: 'gigedit'

If "gigedit" is missing in that line, then because the sampler did not find 
gigedit's plugin in the sampler's plugin directory. You can change the 
sampler's default plugin path at compile time:

	./configure --enable-plugin-dir=/some/where

As well as overriding it by environment variable before launching 
linuxsampler. From "man linuxsampler":

ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
       LINUXSAMPLER_PLUGIN_DIR
              Allows to override the directory where LinuxSampler shall look 
              for instrument editor plugins.

Note, there is also --exec-after-init BTW.

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Grigor I. <gr....@gm...>]

Hi Andrew,
You should be able to launch JSampler with latest JRE using the
following command:

java --add-exports java.desktop/sun.swing.plaf.synth=ALL-UNNAMED -jar
/path/to/Fantasia-0.9.jar

There might also be other module permission/access issues, which
should be easy to fix by using additional --add-exports and
--add-opens options, if needed.

Unfortunately, I don't have spare time for free projects anymore and I
don't think that I'll be able to find time to work on JSampler in near
future.

Regards,
Grigor.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 11:53 AM Andrew C <cou...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm running into some critical errors with openJDK/JRE versions 16/18 and trying to run JSampler. It appears there are some older classes that are no longer supported in these versions or perhaps need a bit more wriggling to accommodate the JSampler code?
>
> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: class
> org.jsampler.view.fantasia.basic.PixmapPane (in unnamed module @0x248d4f4a)
> cannot access class sun.swing.plaf.synth.Paint9Painter (in module java.des
> ktop) because module java.desktop does not export sun.swing.plaf.synth to u
> nnamed module @0x248d4f4a
>
> I know this is/was(?) Grishata's project and I lack the knowledge to even begin trying to fix this up, but was wondering if anyone else has encountered this and if there are workarounds for it?
>
> The alternative, if I cannot get it working would have to be diving into sending LSCP commands to Linuxsampler via Netcat. That should be fun! ;)
>
> A question for Christian, but is it possible through LSCP to tell Linuxsampler to open gigedit "Live" on an instrument, so as to edit in real-time, or was that a special function of JSampler?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew.
> _______________________________________________
> Linuxsampler-devel mailing list
> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 17:36:24 CET Andrew C wrote:
> My bad, I had forgotten about QSampler. I'll try that out instead and
> perhaps hunt down an older Java SDK version if possible.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrew.

Maybe it is time to mark JSampler as orphaned (e.g. on the website) to make it 
more clear that nobody has been working on it for 10 years. If it no longer 
runs with a recent Java SDK version, then it is probably time to reflect the 
facts.

CU
Christian

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi Christian,

Unfortunately no, I wasn't running a command in parallel to the GET
command, all my instruments had already loaded by the time I tried the GET
command.
The LSCP shell/CLI utility works absolutely fine every time I send such a
GET command, so perhaps it's my netcatting that's the issue here for some
reason. Not sure if there would be more scriptable methods of reliably
getting the data from Linuxsampler.

Also, on the note of using the lscp CLI/netcat commands to Linuxsampler for
the instrument editor, it seems it doesn't work on my end:
lscp=# EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 1
ERR:0:There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument
lscp=# EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT 0
ERR:0:There is no instrument editor capable to handle this instrument

Both files were loaded using the GIG engine and gigedit/Linuxsampler are
installed in /usr/local.. Perhaps my PATH or ldconfig needs updating?

Many thanks,

Andrew.


On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 4:31 PM Christian Schoenebeck <
sch...@li...> wrote:

> On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 15:46:17 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm hacking together a quick-and-dirty bash script for
> controlling/setting
> > up audio/midi interfaces in Linuxsampler by sending LSCP commands.
> >
> > Sending the commands seems absolutely fine, but using the 'GET' commands
> to
> > recieve data from Linuxsampler, for example info about a sampler channel,
> > don't appear to return data consistently or "in time"?
> >
> > Command I'm using:
> > echo "GET CHANNEL INFO 1" | nc -q 1 -t localhost 8888
> >
> > Sometimes it'll return the channel info immediately, other times
> > Linuxsampler returns nothing at all, though the connection is established
> > and terminated.
>
> I guess you were sending another LSCP command in parallel while that
> happened,
> e.g. loading an instrument in foreground.
>
> The LSCP server is currently single-threaded:
>
> http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/linuxsampler/trunk/src/network/lscpserver.h?revision=2534&view=markup
>
> So the LSCP server only executes one command at a time, which explains why
> your "GET CHANNEL INFO" sometimes takes a moment before completing. So far
> this was not an issue for anybody, at least nobody complained FWIW in all
> these years.
>
> In the meantime you might just load your instruments in the background for
> not
> blocking the LSCP server for too long.
>
> BTW we also have a dedicated command line utility that might be a bit more
> convenient to play around with LSCP:
> http://doc.linuxsampler.org/Release_Notes/LinuxSampler_2_0_0/#lscp_shell
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Linuxsampler-devel mailing list
> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel
>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

My bad, I had forgotten about QSampler. I'll try that out instead and
perhaps hunt down an older Java SDK version if possible.

Cheers,
Andrew.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 4:23 PM Christian Schoenebeck <
sch...@li...> wrote:

> On Montag, 20. Dezember 2021 10:52:50 CET Andrew C wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> Hi,
>
> > I'm running into some critical errors with openJDK/JRE versions 16/18 and
> > trying to run JSampler. It appears there are some older classes that are
> no
> > longer supported in these versions or perhaps need a bit more wriggling
> to
> > accommodate the JSampler code?
> >
> > Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.IllegalAccessError:
> class
> > org.jsampler.view.fantasia.basic.PixmapPane (in unnamed module
> @0x248d4f4a)
> > cannot access class sun.swing.plaf.synth.Paint9Painter (in module
> java.des
> > ktop) because module java.desktop does not export sun.swing.plaf.synth
> to u
> > nnamed module @0x248d4f4a
> >
> > I know this is/was(?) Grishata's project and I lack the knowledge to even
> > begin trying to fix this up, but was wondering if anyone else has
> > encountered this and if there are workarounds for it?
>
> Yes, one of the following, but probably not an answer that you like:
>
> - Use QSampler instead of JSampler.
>
> or
>
> - Use an older Java SDK.
>
> or
>
> - Try fixing the issue in JSampler's source code.
>
> When you look at the Subversion repository [1] you will see that the last
> change on JSampler was almost 10 years ago. It is almost a miracle that it
> still worked for such a long time without any maintenance changes.
>
> [1]
> http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/jsampler/trunk/?view=log
>
> > The alternative, if I cannot get it working would have to be diving into
> > sending LSCP commands to Linuxsampler via Netcat. That should be fun! ;)
>
> Or you just use QSampler, setup your session with mouse as usual, and if
> you
> still want to use LSCP from the command line you can just save your session
> with QSampler which saves it as LSCP file. So you would have an easy
> starting
> point from there.
>
> > A question for Christian, but is it possible through LSCP to tell
> > Linuxsampler to open gigedit "Live" on an instrument, so as to edit in
> > real-time, or was that a special function of JSampler?
>
> Sure! Both JSampler and QSampler control the sampler via LSCP. So
> everything
> they do, you can do as well. In this case it is
>
>         EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT <sampler-channel>
>
>
> http://www.linuxsampler.org/api/draft-linuxsampler-protocol.html#rfc.section.6.9.1
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andrew.
>
>
>
>
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> Lin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel
>

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 15:46:17 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm hacking together a quick-and-dirty bash script for controlling/setting
> up audio/midi interfaces in Linuxsampler by sending LSCP commands.
> 
> Sending the commands seems absolutely fine, but using the 'GET' commands to
> recieve data from Linuxsampler, for example info about a sampler channel,
> don't appear to return data consistently or "in time"?
> 
> Command I'm using:
> echo "GET CHANNEL INFO 1" | nc -q 1 -t localhost 8888
> 
> Sometimes it'll return the channel info immediately, other times
> Linuxsampler returns nothing at all, though the connection is established
> and terminated.

I guess you were sending another LSCP command in parallel while that happened,
e.g. loading an instrument in foreground.

The LSCP server is currently single-threaded:
http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/linuxsampler/trunk/src/network/lscpserver.h?revision=2534&view=markup

So the LSCP server only executes one command at a time, which explains why
your "GET CHANNEL INFO" sometimes takes a moment before completing. So far 
this was not an issue for anybody, at least nobody complained FWIW in all
these years.

In the meantime you might just load your instruments in the background for not
blocking the LSCP server for too long.

BTW we also have a dedicated command line utility that might be a bit more
convenient to play around with LSCP:
http://doc.linuxsampler.org/Release_Notes/LinuxSampler_2_0_0/#lscp_shell

> Thanks,
> 
> Andrew.

Re: [Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Christian S. <sch...@li...>]

On Montag, 20. Dezember 2021 10:52:50 CET Andrew C wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi,

> I'm running into some critical errors with openJDK/JRE versions 16/18 and
> trying to run JSampler. It appears there are some older classes that are no
> longer supported in these versions or perhaps need a bit more wriggling to
> accommodate the JSampler code?
> 
> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: class
> org.jsampler.view.fantasia.basic.PixmapPane (in unnamed module @0x248d4f4a)
> cannot access class sun.swing.plaf.synth.Paint9Painter (in module java.des
> ktop) because module java.desktop does not export sun.swing.plaf.synth to u
> nnamed module @0x248d4f4a
> 
> I know this is/was(?) Grishata's project and I lack the knowledge to even
> begin trying to fix this up, but was wondering if anyone else has
> encountered this and if there are workarounds for it?

Yes, one of the following, but probably not an answer that you like:

- Use QSampler instead of JSampler.

or

- Use an older Java SDK.

or

- Try fixing the issue in JSampler's source code.

When you look at the Subversion repository [1] you will see that the last
change on JSampler was almost 10 years ago. It is almost a miracle that it
still worked for such a long time without any maintenance changes.

[1] http://svn.linuxsampler.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/jsampler/trunk/?view=log

> The alternative, if I cannot get it working would have to be diving into
> sending LSCP commands to Linuxsampler via Netcat. That should be fun! ;)

Or you just use QSampler, setup your session with mouse as usual, and if you
still want to use LSCP from the command line you can just save your session
with QSampler which saves it as LSCP file. So you would have an easy starting
point from there.

> A question for Christian, but is it possible through LSCP to tell
> Linuxsampler to open gigedit "Live" on an instrument, so as to edit in
> real-time, or was that a special function of JSampler?

Sure! Both JSampler and QSampler control the sampler via LSCP. So everything
they do, you can do as well. In this case it is

	EDIT CHANNEL INSTRUMENT <sampler-channel>

http://www.linuxsampler.org/api/draft-linuxsampler-protocol.html#rfc.section.6.9.1

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew.

[Linuxsampler-devel] "GET" LSCP commands to linuxsampler sometimes don't return data

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi,

I'm hacking together a quick-and-dirty bash script for controlling/setting
up audio/midi interfaces in Linuxsampler by sending LSCP commands.

Sending the commands seems absolutely fine, but using the 'GET' commands to
recieve data from Linuxsampler, for example info about a sampler channel,
don't appear to return data consistently or "in time"?

Command I'm using:
echo "GET CHANNEL INFO 1" | nc -q 1 -t localhost 8888

Sometimes it'll return the channel info immediately, other times
Linuxsampler returns nothing at all, though the connection is established
and terminated.

Thanks,

Andrew.

[Linuxsampler-devel] JSampler java classes bugfixes?

[Andrew C <cou...@gm...>]

Hi all,

I'm running into some critical errors with openJDK/JRE versions 16/18 and
trying to run JSampler. It appears there are some older classes that are no
longer supported in these versions or perhaps need a bit more wriggling to
accommodate the JSampler code?

Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: class
org.jsampler.view.fantasia.basic.PixmapPane (in unnamed module @0x248d4f4a)
cannot access class sun.swing.plaf.synth.Paint9Painter (in module java.des
ktop) because module java.desktop does not export sun.swing.plaf.synth to u
nnamed module @0x248d4f4a

I know this is/was(?) Grishata's project and I lack the knowledge to even
begin trying to fix this up, but was wondering if anyone else has
encountered this and if there are workarounds for it?

The alternative, if I cannot get it working would have to be diving into
sending LSCP commands to Linuxsampler via Netcat. That should be fun! ;)

A question for Christian, but is it possible through LSCP to tell
Linuxsampler to open gigedit "Live" on an instrument, so as to edit in
real-time, or was that a special function of JSampler?

Cheers,

Andrew.