Re: Local Multi-User X (?) problems

[Helge H. <hel...@ai...>]

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 03:51:10PM +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:48:02PM +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > > 

> and how big is your kernel ?
> should you recompile the kernel all the time ?
> 
I do that anyway, I boot & use most of the development kernels.
It is my small contribution to testing them.

My kernels are 2.1MB. Modules wouldn't help much with
memory consumption, because most of them would
be loaded all the time anyway. 


> > > it's more flexible to have most hardware compiled as module's
> > > 
> > Sure - and a lot more hassle if you're running experimental kernels,
> IMO that was the case with 2.5 only
> > devfs, or drivers not yet supported by the distribution.
> ???
Module autoload if you try to access the device.  Except
when using devfs, because then the device node isn't
present until the driver registers.  A good devfsd setup
fixes that - and the distribution may come with a good
devfsd setup.  "New" devices aren't usually there though.
Setting them up isn't fun.  

Modules are great for distribution though.
 
> > > > > > BTW, /proc/bus/usb/devices does not exist on my system,
> > > > >
> > > > > this is somewhat strange
> > > > > you must have it
> > > > 
> > > > OK... 
> > > > 
> > > probably your init script doesn't like
> > > built in support for usb,
> > > this is the case for mandrake as well
> > > if usb is built in the kernel, not as modules,
> > > service usb doesn't start -- it doesn't mount
> > > usbfs and there might be some issues with 
> > > certain usb drivers
> > > you probably have to mount it yourself then
> > > 
> > Put this in /etc/fstab:
> > none                  /proc/bus/usb usbfs   defaults                    0
> > 0
> 
> and you tell me that debian copes with it :-)
> shouldn't it be done automatically ?

It is a fs - something must mount it.  /etc/fstab
is a standard place.  Of course debian
ought to come with it, but I haven't had
debian install a fstab for me for years. (Never
reinstall, only upgrade ...) 

Helge Hafting