linuxconsole-dev

multiuser scripts from a commercial vendor

[Michael P. <mp...@op...>]

This is long overdue, but I'd like to formally offer something back to
this project.  My company sells pre-configured Linux machines including
multi-user systems, and everything we do is open source.  While we don't
have the bandwidth to offer our full install disc for download, for
starters I've made a small page containing the most relevant scripts for
the linux console project:

http://groovix.com/linuxconsole.html

Among other things, Groovix scripts detect how many users to run, handle
multi-user sound, and let you plug in mice, keyboards, sound cards, and
video cards wherever you want, while maintaining consistent assignment
between reboots. They are pretty simple scripts, but work well.

You might also get a lot of useful info just by browsing our site,
including exact specifications on what hardware we use.  We tried to give
you guys credit, currently at http://groovix.com/faq.html , third question
down. If you have any questions or suggestions you can send email directly
to lin...@gr... as we don't always keep up with this
mailing list.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: multiuser scripts from a commercial vendor

[James S. <jsi...@ww...>]

> This is long overdue, but I'd like to formally offer something back to
> this project.  My company sells pre-configured Linux machines including
> multi-user systems, and everything we do is open source.  While we don't
> have the bandwidth to offer our full install disc for download, for
> starters I've made a small page containing the most relevant scripts for
> the linux console project:
> 
> http://groovix.com/linuxconsole.html
> 
> Among other things, Groovix scripts detect how many users to run, handle
> multi-user sound, and let you plug in mice, keyboards, sound cards, and
> video cards wherever you want, while maintaining consistent assignment
> between reboots. They are pretty simple scripts, but work well.
> 
> You might also get a lot of useful info just by browsing our site,
> including exact specifications on what hardware we use.  We tried to give
> you guys credit, currently at http://groovix.com/faq.html , third question
> down. If you have any questions or suggestions you can send email directly
> to lin...@gr... as we don't always keep up with this
> mailing list.

   Wow!!! I guess you beat me to the punch. I was planning to try to start 
a company to support this project and so I could actually work on it full 
time. I even wanted to hire the other developers here over time. As you 
must of noticed progress is at a snail pace here because we all have to 
pay the bills and no one ever cared about this project. I have in the past
asked distros and other people for support but nobody cared :-(
   The original code I wrote 2 years ago. Originally we had much more code 
but Vojtech merged in the input changes and I merged the fbdev changes 
into 2.6.X. More fbdev changes need to go in but the majority of it is 
done. Recently I have been busy with the fbdev layer but since I work for a 
living doing something else that progress is at a snail pace as well. Again
nobody cares. So Aivils has been handling this core code base.
   Thanks for the scripts but I doubt you will hire the developers here as 
I was hoping too. This just sends another stake threw my heart. 

Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

Hi James!

	Are You aware linuxconsole.sf.net front page is partialy
obsolete? You was total careless , bot now You show some
activity.
	It would be nice if You rewrite "New Features"
- multiple current tty.
- each current tty can be assigned with console output
device and input device (keyboard).
- special console output device "frame buffer console"
may be assigned with number of current tty's, where number
is count of registered framebuffer devices.
- each console device may be assigned with nuber of
keyboards.
- one keyboard conjugate with one console device. One
keyboard link to multiple consoles is _not_ permited.
- keyboard - console device link is runtime configurable.
- each console device assigned with bootime configurable
count ouf tty's.
- under X suitable is number of dummy consoles, each
X can use independ keyboard, which is assigned with
headless dummy console.

	In my opinition ruby CVS looks like waste box. That 
CVS does not have any internet link, excluded only Vojtech's
tools like evtest.c jstest.c and so on. I vote moving ruby-2.6
to separate CVS module like ruby.  sf.net have enough
docs how to move whole tree. 
ruby/linux - erase.
ruby/xfree86 - add to fornt page
- tuntico is linux input subsystem event translator to xfree
events , current against XFree 3.3.6 . Suitable for all
input devices as well. Support 6 axis and 12 buttons (or more).
Code still remain unique. Verdict- maintain.
ruby/utils - maintain
ruby/web - seems useless, because it never goes to front.
ruby/docs - ?
ruby/app-pathces - ?

You are native english speaker against my so-so english, so
web space recreating is easy task for You!

Best regards,
Aivils

Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[James S. <jsi...@ww...>]

> 	Are You aware linuxconsole.sf.net front page is partialy
> obsolete? You was total careless , bot now You show some
> activity.

Fbdev is coming along so its time to work on the console system again.
Also I want to tye it all together. There is some really big changes going 
on in the X world which I like us to get invloved in.

> 	It would be nice if You rewrite "New Features"
> - multiple current tty.
> - each current tty can be assigned with console output
> device and input device (keyboard).
> - special console output device "frame buffer console"
> may be assigned with number of current tty's, where number
> is count of registered framebuffer devices.
> - each console device may be assigned with nuber of
> keyboards.
> - one keyboard conjugate with one console device. One
> keyboard link to multiple consoles is _not_ permited.
> - keyboard - console device link is runtime configurable.
> - each console device assigned with bootime configurable
> count ouf tty's.
> - under X suitable is number of dummy consoles, each
> X can use independ keyboard, which is assigned with
> headless dummy console.

The web site needs to be really improved over all. Any artist here ?


> 	In my opinition ruby CVS looks like waste box. That 
> CVS does not have any internet link, excluded only Vojtech's
> tools like evtest.c jstest.c and so on. I vote moving ruby-2.6
> to separate CVS module like ruby.  sf.net have enough
> docs how to move whole tree. 
> ruby/linux - erase.
> ruby/xfree86 - add to fornt page
> - tuntico is linux input subsystem event translator to xfree
> events , current against XFree 3.3.6 . Suitable for all
> input devices as well. Support 6 axis and 12 buttons (or more).
> Code still remain unique. Verdict- maintain.
> ruby/utils - maintain
> ruby/web - seems useless, because it never goes to front.
> ruby/docs - ?
> ruby/app-pathces - ?

I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch with a 
new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused about the
name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any suggesting 
what the gem name we should us?

> You are native english speaker against my so-so english, so
> web space recreating is easy task for You!

Yeap. We should also have other language pages as well. I know a few 
people from around the world are here. 

Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Zoltan B. <zb...@fr...>]

James Simmons =EDrta:
> I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch with =
a=20
> new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused about =
the
> name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any suggesting=20
> what the gem name we should us?

Korund. That covers almost all. It also refers to how hard the thing is.
And I find it a fancy name, too. :-)

Best regards,

Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Alban B. <bro...@wa...>]

Le Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:35:30 +0100, James Simmons a écrit :


> I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch with a 
> new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused about the
> name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any suggesting 
> what the gem name we should us?
> 

keep the confusion ... quartz :)

Greetings
Alban

Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

Hi James!

	Are You aware linuxconsole.sf.net front page is partialy
obsolete? You was total careless , bot now You show some
activity.
	It would be nice if You rewrite "New Features"
- multiple current tty.
- each current tty can be assigned with console output
device and input device (keyboard).
- special console output device "frame buffer console"
may be assigned with number of current tty's, where number
is count of registered framebuffer devices.
- each console device may be assigned with nuber of
keyboards.
- one keyboard conjugate with one console device. One
keyboard link to multiple consoles is _not_ permited.
- keyboard - console device link is runtime configurable.
- each console device assigned with bootime configurable
count ouf tty's.
- under X suitable is number of dummy consoles, each
X can use independ keyboard, which is assigned with
headless dummy console.

	In my opinition ruby CVS looks like waste box. That 
CVS does not have any internet link, excluded only Vojtech's
tools like evtest.c jstest.c and so on. I vote moving ruby-2.6
to separate CVS module like ruby.  sf.net have enough
docs how to move whole tree. 
ruby/linux - erase.
ruby/xfree86 - add to fornt page
- tuntico is linux input subsystem event translator to xfree
events , current against XFree 3.3.6 . Suitable for all
input devices as well. Support 6 axis and 12 buttons (or more).
Code still remain unique. Verdict- maintain.
ruby/utils - maintain
ruby/web - seems useless, because it never goes to front.
ruby/docs - ?
ruby/app-pathces - ?

You are native english speaker against my so-so english, so
web space recreating is easy task for You!

Best regards,
Aivils

Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:30, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> > I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch with a 
> > new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused about the
> > name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any suggesting 
> > what the gem name we should us?
> 
> Korund. That covers almost all. It also refers to how hard the thing is.
> And I find it a fancy name, too. :-)

Oops. I was think that all is Holywood movie names :o)
However korundum is ruby-language submodule.

To keep movie-gem compatibility i vote

moonstone

Learn more
http://www.gemhut.com/gemidx.htm

Regards,
Aivils

Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[samar <sa...@ef...>]

for what its worth, can I suggest Opal - like ruby short and sweet.

best regards
samar
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To: <zb...@fr...>
Cc: "James Simmons" <jsi...@pe...>; 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?


> On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:30, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
>> > I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch with 
>> > a
>> > new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused about 
>> > the
>> > name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any suggesting
>> > what the gem name we should us?
>>
>> Korund. That covers almost all. It also refers to how hard the thing is.
>> And I find it a fancy name, too. :-)
>
> Oops. I was think that all is Holywood movie names :o)
> However korundum is ruby-language submodule.
>
> To keep movie-gem compatibility i vote
>
> moonstone
>
> Learn more
> http://www.gemhut.com/gemidx.htm
>
> Regards,
> Aivils
>
>
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Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Aivils <ai...@un...>]

On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:36, samar wrote:
> for what its worth, can I suggest Opal - like ruby short and sweet.

Opal is already very popular under linux

http://opal.sourceforge.net/
http://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/opal/about.html
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/tivoli/partners/public.jsp?tab=connect&content=feature-opal-bps
https://wiki.freitagsrunde.org/Opal

> best regards
> samar
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Aivils" <ai...@un...>
> To: <zb...@fr...>
> Cc: "James Simmons" <jsi...@pe...>; 
> <lin...@li...>; <jsi...@in...>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?
> 
> 
> > On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:30, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> >> > I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch with 
> >> > a
> >> > new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused about 
> >> > the
> >> > name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any suggesting
> >> > what the gem name we should us?
> >>
> >> Korund. That covers almost all. It also refers to how hard the thing is.
> >> And I find it a fancy name, too. :-)
> >
> > Oops. I was think that all is Holywood movie names :o)
> > However korundum is ruby-language submodule.
> >
> > To keep movie-gem compatibility i vote
> >
> > moonstone
> >
> > Learn more
> > http://www.gemhut.com/gemidx.htm
> >
> > Regards,
> > Aivils

Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?

[Svetoslav S. <sv...@gm...>]

> On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:36, samar wrote:
> > for what its worth, can I suggest Opal - like ruby short and sweet.
> 
> Opal is already very popular under linux
> 
> http://opal.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/opal/about.html
>
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/tivoli/partners/public.jsp?tab=connect&content=feature-opal-bps
> https://wiki.freitagsrunde.org/Opal
> 

so what's the problem to keep "ruby" then :-)

i'm somehow against a name change,
we had (b)ruby for at least 3-4 years, why change it ?
(and i think i really like "ruby" :-) )

> > best regards
> > samar
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Aivils" <ai...@un...>
> > To: <zb...@fr...>
> > Cc: "James Simmons" <jsi...@pe...>; 
> > <lin...@li...>; <jsi...@in...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: Is linuxconsole.sf.net untouchable?
> > 
> > 
> > > On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:30, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
> > >> > I agree. Ruby should be placed into a attic. We need a new branch
> with 
> > >> > a
> > >> > new name i.e being a type of gem. Also people often got confused
> about 
> > >> > the
> > >> > name because there is a scripting language called ruby. Any
> suggesting
> > >> > what the gem name we should us?
> > >>
> > >> Korund. That covers almost all. It also refers to how hard the thing
> is.
> > >> And I find it a fancy name, too. :-)
> > >
> > > Oops. I was think that all is Holywood movie names :o)
> > > However korundum is ruby-language submodule.
> > >
> > > To keep movie-gem compatibility i vote
> > >
> > > moonstone
> > >
> > > Learn more
> > > http://www.gemhut.com/gemidx.htm
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Aivils
> 
> 
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