Re: [Linuxcoe-devel] Update on packaging

[Bruno C. <Bru...@hp...>]

Bryan Gartner said on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:02:47PM -0600:

> > linuxcoe-sd-base and linuxcoe-sd-docs (I now use this one) or
> > linuxcoe-sysdes and linuxcoe-sysdes-docs
> 
> I can go either way with this, except "sd" is rather short and non-descript,
> so I'd like to propose
> 
> 	linuxcoe-sysdes-common
> 		(vs. -base, as that is more common, at least in .deb space)

*I* think that common is used when the brick is used by other potential
upper layer (e.g. vim-common with vim-extended & vim-X11) whereas base
is used when the component is the basis of the rest of the stack. 

So IMVHO in that case base is fine.
But it's just for the pleasure to discuss with you, I'll let the long
time writer decide, and adopt it. 
What I'd need is a parid concensus ;-)

> 	linuxcoe-sysdes-docs

I take it ;-)

(Too bad CVS doesn't support mv)

> Another proposal is to modify the distro overlays as:
> 
> 	linuxcoe-sysdes-vend-<Distro>
> 		(instead of the "data*all" approach)

Is vend more clear for native english speakers ?
(For non native english speaker such as myself, I find data quite
explicit). But again, let you choose.

> > I'll then derived as we need the same choice vor /var/log and /var/lib
> > (What I won't do the make another subdir below with the verion name as
> > fr packages this is useless because you can't have multiple instances)
> 
> Actually you can easily have multiple instances (and this is quite
> useful right now since we are making the 4-4.1 transistion).  We do

Well this may on a test platform. But on a platform managed by packages,
when you upgrade, what you eally want is that the new application takes
place of the old one. 

When I do urpmi postfix / apt-get install postfix, I just want the new
version. Then it's up to the packagers to be clever enough to keep the
configuration files safe, or ven to aply filter to them if format has
changed.

The only case, where it would be acceptable IMO, is when you want
multiple major versions in parallel (apache1 and apache2) However, this
is generally for a short period of time, in particular when they all
listen on the same port :-(


Also I want to look for log files under /var/log/linuxcoe-sysdes, not
under /var/log/linuxcoe-sysdes/4.1, and then realize it's the new
version so should look at 4.2, ...
More confusing than useful for me.

And also a system like rpm won't let you have 2 packages with the same
name and 2 versions different coexist on the system ;-) Rightly IMO .

> it all the time as we move into production.  And this is almost trivial
> with the next change that was implemented:

I understand that for tar files, potentially but for packages I find it
less useful.

Bruno.
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