On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 15:46 +0100, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On 11 Apr 2007, at 14:09, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> > On 11 Apr 2007, at 00:18, Kazz wrote:
> >> One more question since if anyone can answer it, you probably can. I
> >> planned to use windows software RAID 0 and RAID 5 on different
> >> partitions since I'd read that Linux was capable of using those
> >> too, but
> >> when I finally went to set it up, I discovered that vista "ultimate"
> >> wasn't quite so ultimate when it came to software RAID, and it had no
> >> options for RAID 5 or even RAID 1.
> >
> > Really? /me tries it.. Yes you are right! Even using the command
> > line I get (note disk 1 is contains a single simple volume):
> >
> > <quote>
> > DISKPART> select disk=1
> >
> > Disk 1 is now the selected disk.
> >
> > DISKPART> add disk=2
> >
> > The command you selected is not available with this version of
> > Windows.
> > </quote>
> >
> > And I get the same error message trying to create a RAID 5 set...
> >
> > However, I thought of a cool trick. Boot with the Vista
> > installation CD and then when you have started the installer (it
> > does not need to be installing yet, the CD just needs to have
> > booted into the full installation environment, i.e. you can for
> > example do it at the screen where it asks to enter the CD Key)
> > press SHIFT+F10. You then get a command prompt up running with
> > full administrative privileges. Then type "diskpart" and you are
> > now running diskpart command line utility. You can now create both
> > RAID 5 and Mirror sets! (-:
> [snip]
> > I am doing this right now to see whether it works... I will let
> > you know when I have finished whether it worked or not...
>
> Having finished installing Vista Ultimate in VMware Fusion I have to
> say my trick was not so clever... It does not work! )-:
>
It was still clever, they just must have realized that some people would
be clever, and they can't have people using unauthorized functionality
that's already built in, now can they? ;)
> Booting into Vista Ultimate it showed the disks as being a "foreign
> diskset" and all I could do was import the diskset. Once I had done
> that both the mirror and raid5 arrays showed up as "Failed" and
> neither in the GUI nor in diskpart could I do anything to bring them
> back online...
>
> So whilst you can create them with the installer (and use them! - I
> also formatted them in the installer in diskpart to NTFS and even
> copied some files from the install dvd onto the arrays...) Vista
> Ultimate cannot use them. )-:
>
> How very annoying of it!
>
Yes it is... :\ That's what I was afraid of, and it's the same kind of
thing that it did when I made dynamic disks in xp and tried to read
them.
> I wonder which version of Vista is needed to use Fault Tolerant disks
> sets...
They seem to reserve that for servers. I guess they need something to
make people buy those versions, and unnecessarily reducing functionality
in other versions is a common way for them to do it. The "home"
versions for example are relatively crippled even compared to
"ultimate" (which is less "ultimate" than we are led to believe).
You may not be interested enough in this to try, but I read that in xp
there was a way to copy certain files from the server versions into the
other versions, I assume replacing some or all of the disk access
drivers/programs, and that would allow it to both create and use fault
tolerant arrays.
Thanks for giving it a shot anyway,
Kazz
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