Re: X + BVision + Debian + GNOME + Enlightenment problem

[Sven L. <lu...@dp...>]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:40:58PM +0000, Giles Burdett wrote:
> Hi Sven,
> 
> On 04-May-01, you wrote:
> 
>  
> > The woody/unstable xfree packages are 4.0.3, look at :
> > 
> > ftp.debian.org:/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86
> > 
> > for them.
> > 
> > But i don't think you will be able to install them on a potato system, as
> > they depend on libc6 (>= 2.2.2-2).
> 
> If they depend on a more recent version of libc6, is there a way to upgrade
> that package without the system tumbling to its knees? Can I do it through

mmm, don't know, the new libc6 is supposed to be binary compatible to the
older version, so normally, just upgrading your libc should permit older
packages to run. But you would have to force dpkg, and anyway, i would not
recommend it in any way.

> dselect, or do I need somekind of shell that doesn't use these library

Yes, you could do something like :

dpkg --force-depends -i libc6_2.2.2-2.deb

and hope it works. Again i would _NOT_ do that myself.

> calls? And what do I do with all the other programs that are already running
> and use the old libc6?

Just upgrade them :)))

Again, woody/testing is nice and quite stable, i think (don't really know, i
run only unstable on both my work/production and my home box, never really had
any problem with it).

> >> Anyone know where this elusive beasty might be lurking on the net?
> > 
> > If you have lots of free space and time, you could build them yourslef,
> > just get the source package (>50MB) and build it on your system, not sure
> > it would work though. Alternatively, you could try getting the upstream
> > package directly, and try to run it, you only need X server, and point to
> > it in /etc/X11/Xserver.
> > 
> > But, in the long run, it would be much nicer to upgrade to testing, you
> > will gain a lot by it.
> 
> I suppose I could - but all I really want/need is a working X system!

Sure, ...

Then try rebuilding it, i thought there were potato packages of XF4 around,
but i guess these were only for i386, not sure i don't use them myself.

It would take you ~400MB space on your harddisk and >5hours compilation on a
603e 240MHz.

> > If this is casuing you a problem bandwith wise, you could try reading : 
> 
> It's OK, I can go to uni and download an iso image or a load of stuff onto
> zip disks. I think I'll have a crack at the X v4 + libc6 upgrade first
> though...

Ok, but the offline apt-get thingy is very nice, once you have it setup, i do
it all the time for my unstable setup (but i upgrade only every week or 2).
The first run would be somewhat long, but after that, you will be following
woody, and there are not really so much changes there. 

And there are loads of improvement, remember, potato was frozen more than a
year ago, alough it was released in july, so packages there are really old. 

If nothing else you would get the new gnome packages (1.4.0.2-3 currently in
unstable) which are much nicer than the potato version.

Friendly,

Sven Luther