From: <edw...@ti...> - 2003-09-23 13:23:51
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Original Message: ----------------- From: Lars J=2E Aas larsa@sim=2Eno Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:27:53 +0200 To: edward=2Erobbins@tinyworld=2Eco=2Euk, linux-7110-psion@lists=2Esourcef= orge=2Enet Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux=2E Edward Robbins <edward=2Erobbins@tinyworld=2Eco=2Euk> wrote: | Second, we can try to work without any extra storage for now=2E With | 64MB of RAM or even with 32MB (upgrades needed for Series 7s) a working | system should be perfectly possible=2E A similar specification machine, | the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 works a 16MB 'OS image' 32MB storage and | 32MB RAM=2E We can manage a 16MB system, and theirs includes many apps | including Qtopia windowing system=2E We already have working framebuffer= | so this should not be too hard=2E We can afford to use CramFS on the | internal RAM as well=2E I may be dense (sometimes light has been known to bend around me), but how would I get anything I produced on such a setup out of the netBook and onto my PC or some other permanent storage facility accessible from other systems? Do we have support for the serial port already? IrDA? I believe that both serial and IrDA code exists (although I have not checked), but that it has not been properly tested=2E Klassjan asked me to= check some of the serial connections to check everything is ok=2E Ed=2E -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E |
From: Brian L. <br...@ri...> - 2003-09-23 14:38:25
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Doesn't PicoGUI have support for Psion touchscreens? I'll be getting a netBook with 64M soon, so I'm happy to test out any initrd's for a 64M system, and I'll happily sign a petition to get Psion to spill the beans. SavaJE (http://www.savaje.com/) have an OS for the netBook with a built-in JVM. It's in beta at the moment, and I think you can download it from somewhere on their site. Perhaps they'd be more helpful than Psion? They'd need to have info on the netBook to write their own OS for it. I'm not a kernel hacker, but I'd be happy to help out in whatever way I can, as a Linux-based netBook would be the perfect machine for me. (Aplogies to Edward for the duplicate post - I clicked the wrong link :-| ) > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Lars J. Aas la...@si... > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:27:53 +0200 > To: edw...@ti..., lin...@li... > Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > > > Edward Robbins <edw...@ti...> wrote: > | Second, we can try to work without any extra storage for now. With > | 64MB of RAM or even with 32MB (upgrades needed for Series 7s) a working > | system should be perfectly possible. A similar specification machine, > | the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 works a 16MB 'OS image' 32MB storage and > | 32MB RAM. We can manage a 16MB system, and theirs includes many apps > | including Qtopia windowing system. We already have working framebuffer > | so this should not be too hard. We can afford to use CramFS on the > | internal RAM as well. > > I may be dense (sometimes light has been known to bend around me), but > how would I get anything I produced on such a setup out of the netBook > and onto my PC or some other permanent storage facility accessible from > other systems? Do we have support for the serial port already? IrDA? > > I believe that both serial and IrDA code exists (although I have not > checked), but that it has not been properly tested. Klassjan asked me to > check some of the serial connections to check everything is ok. > > Ed. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > |
From: Edward R. <edw...@ti...> - 2003-09-23 21:37:12
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On another note, anyone wanting a safe and cheap way to upgrade the netbook or series 7 may be in luck; during my CF pin-out testing I found the time to find the pin out of the dimm slot. This means I can easily build upgrade dimms, providing I get more of the RAM chips (64mbit, not 128) - I have found somewhere that sells them for quite a lot - but still alot less than a psion upgrade. To make sure I have not missed anything I would appreciate some photos of the upgrade dimms (front and back). I wouldnt make a profit on these (for psilinux mailing list people). Of course, many of you can probably build these yourselves, I will release all info shortly (when I have finished CF pinout). Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lycett" <br...@ri...> To: <lin...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > Doesn't PicoGUI have support for Psion touchscreens? > I'll be getting a netBook with 64M soon, so I'm happy to test out any > initrd's for a 64M system, and I'll happily sign a petition to get Psion > to spill the beans. > SavaJE (http://www.savaje.com/) have an OS for the netBook with a built-in > JVM. It's in beta at the moment, and I think you can download it from > somewhere on their site. Perhaps they'd be more helpful than Psion? > They'd need to have info on the netBook to write their own OS for it. > I'm not a kernel hacker, but I'd be happy to help out in whatever way I > can, as a Linux-based netBook would be the perfect machine for me. > > (Aplogies to Edward for the duplicate post - I clicked the wrong link :-| ) > > > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: Lars J. Aas la...@si... > > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:27:53 +0200 > > To: edw...@ti..., lin...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > > > > > > Edward Robbins <edw...@ti...> wrote: > > | Second, we can try to work without any extra storage for now. With > > | 64MB of RAM or even with 32MB (upgrades needed for Series 7s) a working > > | system should be perfectly possible. A similar specification machine, > > | the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 works a 16MB 'OS image' 32MB storage and > > | 32MB RAM. We can manage a 16MB system, and theirs includes many apps > > | including Qtopia windowing system. We already have working framebuffer > > | so this should not be too hard. We can afford to use CramFS on the > > | internal RAM as well. > > > > I may be dense (sometimes light has been known to bend around me), but > > how would I get anything I produced on such a setup out of the netBook > > and onto my PC or some other permanent storage facility accessible from > > other systems? Do we have support for the serial port already? IrDA? > > > > I believe that both serial and IrDA code exists (although I have not > > checked), but that it has not been properly tested. Klassjan asked me to > > check some of the serial connections to check everything is ok. > > > > Ed. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > > Lin...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > |
From: Edward R. <edw...@ti...> - 2003-09-24 15:37:19
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I have compiled a kernel with cramfs support. At some point (probably tomorrow) I will try to get Opie to work. If anyone wants a copy the kernel is for a 32MB netbook/Psion 7. Ed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Robbins" <edw...@ti...> To: <lin...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > On another note, anyone wanting a safe and cheap way to upgrade the netbook > or series 7 may be in luck; during my CF pin-out testing I found the time to > find the pin out of the dimm slot. This means I can easily build upgrade > dimms, providing I get more of the RAM chips (64mbit, not 128) - I have > found somewhere that sells them for quite a lot - but still alot less than a > psion upgrade. To make sure I have not missed anything I would appreciate > some photos of the upgrade dimms (front and back). I wouldnt make a profit > on these (for psilinux mailing list people). Of course, many of you can > probably build these yourselves, I will release all info shortly (when I > have finished CF pinout). > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Lycett" <br...@ri...> > To: <lin...@li...> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > > > > Doesn't PicoGUI have support for Psion touchscreens? > > I'll be getting a netBook with 64M soon, so I'm happy to test out any > > initrd's for a 64M system, and I'll happily sign a petition to get Psion > > to spill the beans. > > SavaJE (http://www.savaje.com/) have an OS for the netBook with a built-in > > JVM. It's in beta at the moment, and I think you can download it from > > somewhere on their site. Perhaps they'd be more helpful than Psion? > > They'd need to have info on the netBook to write their own OS for it. > > I'm not a kernel hacker, but I'd be happy to help out in whatever way I > > can, as a Linux-based netBook would be the perfect machine for me. > > > > (Aplogies to Edward for the duplicate post - I clicked the wrong link > :-| ) > > > > > > > > > Original Message: > > > ----------------- > > > From: Lars J. Aas la...@si... > > > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:27:53 +0200 > > > To: edw...@ti..., > lin...@li... > > > Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > > > > > > > > > Edward Robbins <edw...@ti...> wrote: > > > | Second, we can try to work without any extra storage for now. With > > > | 64MB of RAM or even with 32MB (upgrades needed for Series 7s) a > working > > > | system should be perfectly possible. A similar specification machine, > > > | the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 works a 16MB 'OS image' 32MB storage and > > > | 32MB RAM. We can manage a 16MB system, and theirs includes many apps > > > | including Qtopia windowing system. We already have working framebuffer > > > | so this should not be too hard. We can afford to use CramFS on the > > > | internal RAM as well. > > > > > > I may be dense (sometimes light has been known to bend around me), but > > > how would I get anything I produced on such a setup out of the netBook > > > and onto my PC or some other permanent storage facility accessible from > > > other systems? Do we have support for the serial port already? IrDA? > > > > > > I believe that both serial and IrDA code exists (although I have not > > > checked), but that it has not been properly tested. Klassjan asked me to > > > check some of the serial connections to check everything is ok. > > > > > > Ed. > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > > > Lin...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > > Lin...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion |
From: Edward R. <edw...@ti...> - 2003-09-23 23:10:16
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lycett" <br...@ri...> To: <lin...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > Doesn't PicoGUI have support for Psion touchscreens? It supports most mouse-like input devices, but I don't think there is yet a driver for the touch screen on the 7/netBook (it doesnt interface directly with the hardware - that's the kernels job). > I'll be getting a netBook with 64M soon, so I'm happy to test out any > initrd's for a 64M system, and I'll happily sign a petition to get Psion > to spill the beans. Great! > SavaJE (http://www.savaje.com/) have an OS for the netBook with a built-in > JVM. It's in beta at the moment, and I think you can download it from > somewhere on their site. Perhaps they'd be more helpful than Psion? > They'd need to have info on the netBook to write their own OS for it. I have heard of this (although it doesnt work on my mbook). However, I suspect Psion gave them the info and that they cant give it to us without breaking some sort of agreement (NDA or similar?). > I'm not a kernel hacker, but I'd be happy to help out in whatever way I > can, as a Linux-based netBook would be the perfect machine for me. Good, we need all the help we can (although hardware info would be more useful - we need a spy at Psion)! > > (Aplogies to Edward for the duplicate post - I clicked the wrong link :-| ) np - I do it all the time. Ed. > > > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: Lars J. Aas la...@si... > > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:27:53 +0200 > > To: edw...@ti..., lin...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] Netbook/Series 7 linux. > > > > > > Edward Robbins <edw...@ti...> wrote: > > | Second, we can try to work without any extra storage for now. With > > | 64MB of RAM or even with 32MB (upgrades needed for Series 7s) a working > > | system should be perfectly possible. A similar specification machine, > > | the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 works a 16MB 'OS image' 32MB storage and > > | 32MB RAM. We can manage a 16MB system, and theirs includes many apps > > | including Qtopia windowing system. We already have working framebuffer > > | so this should not be too hard. We can afford to use CramFS on the > > | internal RAM as well. > > > > I may be dense (sometimes light has been known to bend around me), but > > how would I get anything I produced on such a setup out of the netBook > > and onto my PC or some other permanent storage facility accessible from > > other systems? Do we have support for the serial port already? IrDA? > > > > I believe that both serial and IrDA code exists (although I have not > > checked), but that it has not been properly tested. Klassjan asked me to > > check some of the serial connections to check everything is ok. > > > > Ed. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > > Lin...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Linux-7110-psion mailing list > Lin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-7110-psion > |
From: Edward R. <edw...@ti...> - 2003-09-23 23:17:37
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Does anyone know what the initrd size limit is on the netbook kernel binaries? Would anyone mind compiling me a kernel with cramfs support, I haven't yet been able to get a cross compile system up? Or do we have it already? Also, do we know if gpe/opie/qtopia can be made to start without a mouse/tpanel input? Or picogui for that matter. Thanks, Ed |