Thread: [limesurvey-developers] Drop PHP4 support for 1.85
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From: Carsten S. <car...@go...> - 2009-05-26 11:36:26
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Hello! Today I found out that one of the libraries in 1.85 (daterparser.php) is PHP5 only. At the time I put it in I though it would be PHP4 compatible because it was marked as such. That after more than one week of 1.85RC being released nobody really complained is a sign for me to move forward on this and I would like to make 1.85 PHP5 only. Here a few argements for PHP5 and up only: - Most open source projects dropped PHP4 support more than a year ago. - PHP6 is around the corner - and I would not want to provide support for 3 different PHP versions. - Dropping PHP4 support would make the code alot more slim in some cases - being more performant and we can drop old compatibility functions. - PHP5 provides a good number of worthy datetime functions which would be very hard to implement in PHP4 - especially with the rising number of datetime problems we are approaching with 1.85RC2. It would be great to be able to handle easily different datetime formats in the survey and with PHP5 I would be willing to implement these settings for the administration and client side on short notice (in this case I would break my own feature freeze). Anyone of you still using PHP4? Comments please... -- Best regards from Hamburg/Germany Carsten Schmitz LimeSurvey Project Leader car...@li... http://www.limesurvey.org |
From: Thibault Le M. <Thi...@su...> - 2009-05-26 12:10:00
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Carsten Schmitz a écrit : > Hello! > > > > Anyone of you still using PHP4? > No, I'm not using it, and I also think PHP4 support should be dropped now. Thibault |
From: Mac D. H. <ma...@gm...> - 2009-05-26 12:48:45
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Nope, PHP5 here. 2009/5/26 Thibault Le Meur <Thi...@su...> > Carsten Schmitz a écrit : > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Anyone of you still using PHP4? > > > No, I'm not using it, and I also think PHP4 support should be dropped now. > > Thibault > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT > is a gathering of tech-side developers & brand creativity professionals. > Meet > the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, & > iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian > Group, R/GA, & Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > |
From: Jason C. <ja...@cl...> - 2009-05-26 14:27:54
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Scarily I am still using it on an old windows 2000 server at work. But that's my bad!! Sad though it will be to say goodbye to PHP4, I think it's clearly time to move on and so I agree with Carsten. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Carsten Schmitz [mailto:car...@go...] Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 9:36 PM To: lim...@li... Subject: [limesurvey-developers] Drop PHP4 support for 1.85 Hello! Today I found out that one of the libraries in 1.85 (daterparser.php) is PHP5 only. At the time I put it in I though it would be PHP4 compatible because it was marked as such. That after more than one week of 1.85RC being released nobody really complained is a sign for me to move forward on this and I would like to make 1.85 PHP5 only. Here a few argements for PHP5 and up only: - Most open source projects dropped PHP4 support more than a year ago. - PHP6 is around the corner - and I would not want to provide support for 3 different PHP versions. - Dropping PHP4 support would make the code alot more slim in some cases - being more performant and we can drop old compatibility functions. - PHP5 provides a good number of worthy datetime functions which would be very hard to implement in PHP4 - especially with the rising number of datetime problems we are approaching with 1.85RC2. It would be great to be able to handle easily different datetime formats in the survey and with PHP5 I would be willing to implement these settings for the administration and client side on short notice (in this case I would break my own feature freeze). Anyone of you still using PHP4? Comments please... -- Best regards from Hamburg/Germany Carsten Schmitz LimeSurvey Project Leader car...@li... http://www.limesurvey.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers & brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, & iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, & Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com _______________________________________________ limesurvey-developers mailing list lim...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers |
From: Menno D. <men...@er...> - 2009-05-26 14:49:34
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We don't use PHP4 for a long time... so for me support can be dropped. Since php4 is no longer updated since August 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP) it should be 'safe' to do so. It would be wise to keep a 'legacy' version for php 4 available for a few months with notices that it is no longer maintained for bug and security etc. etc. Menno on 26-05-2009 13:36 Carsten Schmitz said the following: > Hello! > > Today I found out that one of the libraries in 1.85 (daterparser.php) is > PHP5 only. At the time I put it in I though it would be PHP4 compatible > because it was marked as such. That after more than one week of 1.85RC > being released nobody really complained is a sign for me to move forward > on this and I would like to make 1.85 PHP5 only. > > Here a few argements for PHP5 and up only: > > - Most open source projects dropped PHP4 support more than a year ago. > - PHP6 is around the corner - and I would not want to provide support > for 3 different PHP versions. > - Dropping PHP4 support would make the code alot more slim in some cases > - being more performant and we can drop old compatibility functions. > - PHP5 provides a good number of worthy datetime functions which would > be very hard to implement in PHP4 - especially with the rising number of > datetime problems we are approaching with 1.85RC2. > > It would be great to be able to handle easily different datetime formats > in the survey and with PHP5 I would be willing to implement these > settings for the administration and client side on short notice (in this > case I would break my own feature freeze). > > Anyone of you still using PHP4? > > Comments please... > > |
From: Amit K. <ami...@gm...> - 2009-05-26 15:23:03
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hi all, No problem for me too. -- cheers amit |
From: Daniel, D. Q. M. <dqm...@gm...> - 2009-05-26 15:43:44
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Hi, no problem for me. Cheers, Daniel. Amit Kumar wrote: > hi all, > No problem for me too. > > -- > cheers > amit > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT > is a gathering of tech-side developers & brand creativity professionals. Meet > the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, & > iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian > Group, R/GA, & Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > |
From: Marcel M. (Limesurvey) <mar...@li...> - 2009-05-26 15:49:31
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I think we can skip support for PHP4 if that makes life easier. As long as there is a last stable version which runs fine using PHP4 this shouldn't be a problem. Can we keep 1.82 as PHP4 backup version and add a line in the manual or does 1.82 already have the mentioned datetime problems? Mazi Carsten Schmitz schrieb: > Hello! > > Today I found out that one of the libraries in 1.85 (daterparser.php) is > PHP5 only. At the time I put it in I though it would be PHP4 compatible > because it was marked as such. That after more than one week of 1.85RC > being released nobody really complained is a sign for me to move forward > on this and I would like to make 1.85 PHP5 only. > > Here a few argements for PHP5 and up only: > > - Most open source projects dropped PHP4 support more than a year ago. > - PHP6 is around the corner - and I would not want to provide support > for 3 different PHP versions. > - Dropping PHP4 support would make the code alot more slim in some cases > - being more performant and we can drop old compatibility functions. > - PHP5 provides a good number of worthy datetime functions which would > be very hard to implement in PHP4 - especially with the rising number of > datetime problems we are approaching with 1.85RC2. > > It would be great to be able to handle easily different datetime formats > in the survey and with PHP5 I would be willing to implement these > settings for the administration and client side on short notice (in this > case I would break my own feature freeze). > > Anyone of you still using PHP4? > > Comments please... > > |
From: Carsten S. <car...@go...> - 2009-05-26 16:06:07
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Hi! Since there are no ramblings against dropping PHP5 support I will do that. 1.82 should run fine without datetime problems so far - we can keep it as last generic version for PHP4. Thanks for sharing your opinions...! -Carsten Marcel Minke (Limesurvey) schrieb: > I think we can skip support for PHP4 if that makes life easier. As long > as there is a last stable version which runs fine using PHP4 this > shouldn't be a problem. Can we keep 1.82 as PHP4 backup version and add > a line in the manual or does 1.82 already have the mentioned datetime > problems? > > Mazi > > Carsten Schmitz schrieb: > >> Hello! >> >> Today I found out that one of the libraries in 1.85 (daterparser.php) is >> PHP5 only. At the time I put it in I though it would be PHP4 compatible >> because it was marked as such. That after more than one week of 1.85RC >> being released nobody really complained is a sign for me to move forward >> on this and I would like to make 1.85 PHP5 only. >> >> Here a few argements for PHP5 and up only: >> >> - Most open source projects dropped PHP4 support more than a year ago. >> - PHP6 is around the corner - and I would not want to provide support >> for 3 different PHP versions. >> - Dropping PHP4 support would make the code alot more slim in some cases >> - being more performant and we can drop old compatibility functions. >> - PHP5 provides a good number of worthy datetime functions which would >> be very hard to implement in PHP4 - especially with the rising number of >> datetime problems we are approaching with 1.85RC2. >> >> It would be great to be able to handle easily different datetime formats >> in the survey and with PHP5 I would be willing to implement these >> settings for the administration and client side on short notice (in this >> case I would break my own feature freeze). >> >> Anyone of you still using PHP4? >> >> Comments please... >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT > is a gathering of tech-side developers & brand creativity professionals. Meet > the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, & > iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian > Group, R/GA, & Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > |