Thread: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey
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From: Minke, M. <Mi...@hi...> - 2008-03-10 10:07:18
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Because there have been many request in the Forum which provider we can recommend I have started to extend the manual. Please have a look at http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation#Provider and add providers you have tested successfully. Thanks a lot, Mazi -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lim...@li... [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2008 08:10 An: lim...@li... Betreff: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey Just found this: http://www.webhosting.info/news/1/host-color-adds-poll-and-online-survey-to-hosting-plans_0305089165.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ limesurvey-developers mailing list lim...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers |
From: Minke, M. <Mi...@hi...> - 2008-03-10 12:41:14
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Hi Carsten, I can't agree with you totally. 1. If you consider the google page rank important we/I can delete the links in the wiki and add a note that our users should ask google to find the company. Should I do this? 2. I think it is the wrong approach to let companies pay for being linked. Are you sure that you can negotiate with the providers based on the premise that they will only be linked if they pay? We should get in contact with the providers based on another argumentation: We support them to integrate limesurvey and link them in the manual. We can ask them to contribute but we should not force them because having bigger providers integrate limesurvey will result in a bigger community and therefore probably more people who will donate. This solution will be a win-win situation for both sides. Have there been/are there any negotiations with providers or any direct inquiries? I would really appreciate to have a list of providers because this is asked in the forum a lot. Other opinions? Greetings, Mazi -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lim...@li... [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2008 13:14 An: lim...@li...; lim...@li... Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey Hello Marcel, I think we should not provide links to providers for two reasons: 1.) External links are bad for our Google page rank - as more links you provide as worse. 2.) Being linked by us is an economic advantage which we not should give away for free. I someone wants to get linked by us he should contribute for it. The only persons that get linked are contributors. Best regards Carsten -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:05:49 +0100 > Von: "Minke, Marcel" <Mi...@hi...> > An: "lim...@li..." <lim...@li...> > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > Because there have been many request in the Forum which provider we can > recommend I have started to extend the manual. Please have a look at > http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation#Provider and add > providers you have tested successfully. > > Thanks a lot, > Mazi > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: lim...@li... > [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz > Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2008 08:10 > An: lim...@li... > Betreff: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > Just found this: > > http://www.webhosting.info/news/1/host-color-adds-poll-and-online-survey-to-hosting-plans_0305089165.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ limesurvey-developers mailing list lim...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers |
From: Carsten S. <car...@gm...> - 2008-03-10 12:59:29
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-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:40:02 +0100 > Von: "Minke, Marcel" <Mi...@hi...> > An: "lim...@li..." <lim...@li...> > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > Hi Carsten, > > I can't agree with you totally. > > 1. If you consider the google page rank important we/I can delete the > links in the wiki and add a note that our users should ask google to find the > company. > Should I do this? Just remove the links from the naming. There is no need to tell users how to use Google. > > 2. I think it is the wrong approach to let companies pay for being linked. > Are you sure that you can negotiate with the providers based on the > premise that they will only be linked if they pay? We should get in contact with > the providers based on another argumentation: We support them to integrate > limesurvey and link them in the manual. We can ask them to contribute but > we should not force them because having bigger providers integrate > limesurvey will result in a bigger community and therefore probably more people who > will donate. This solution will be a win-win situation for both sides. > > Have there been/are there any negotiations with providers or any direct > inquiries? > > I would really appreciate to have a list of providers because this is > asked in the forum a lot. > Indeed I think that our market presence is strong enough to hold this position. It's another matter to ask providers to include our package in their offers. That way they will contribute to the project (at least for big providers). As I said: I would not like to give links away 'just because' but for a defined reason. Minimum requirement beside the contribution would be a link back to our site, too. (Hostcolor did not even bother to do that) I am really allergic to advertising, and if at all it must be paid well. Regards Carsten > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: lim...@li... > [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz > Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2008 13:14 > An: lim...@li...; > lim...@li... > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > Hello Marcel, > > > I think we should not provide links to providers for two reasons: > > 1.) External links are bad for our Google page rank - as more links you > provide as worse. > 2.) Being linked by us is an economic advantage which we not should give > away for free. I someone wants to get linked by us he should contribute for > it. The only persons that get linked are contributors. > > Best regards > > Carsten > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:05:49 +0100 > > Von: "Minke, Marcel" <Mi...@hi...> > > An: "lim...@li..." > <lim...@li...> > > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > > Because there have been many request in the Forum which provider we can > > recommend I have started to extend the manual. Please have a look at > > http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation#Provider and > add > > providers you have tested successfully. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Mazi > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: lim...@li... > > [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag > von Carsten Schmitz > > Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2008 08:10 > > An: lim...@li... > > Betreff: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > > > Just found this: > > > > > http://www.webhosting.info/news/1/host-color-adds-poll-and-online-survey-to-hosting-plans_0305089165.htm > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > limesurvey-developers mailing list > > lim...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. 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From: Minke, M. <Mi...@hi...> - 2008-03-10 15:19:59
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1.) Done that 2.) I think you have more experience and so that you can estimate the situation better than me. Can you say a little bit more about the cooperation with providers? Have there been any attempts to contact them directly so far? Have any providers made approaches to the limesurvey team? Why not contacting Hostcolor directly and ask them if they could link to the project. This would also be helpful to their customers (manual, forum support, updates). Best regards, Mazi -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lim...@li... [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2008 13:59 An: lim...@li... Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:40:02 +0100 > Von: "Minke, Marcel" <Mi...@hi...> > An: "lim...@li..." <lim...@li...> > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > Hi Carsten, > > I can't agree with you totally. > > 1. If you consider the google page rank important we/I can delete the > links in the wiki and add a note that our users should ask google to find the > company. > Should I do this? Just remove the links from the naming. There is no need to tell users how to use Google. > > 2. I think it is the wrong approach to let companies pay for being linked. > Are you sure that you can negotiate with the providers based on the > premise that they will only be linked if they pay? We should get in contact with > the providers based on another argumentation: We support them to integrate > limesurvey and link them in the manual. We can ask them to contribute but > we should not force them because having bigger providers integrate > limesurvey will result in a bigger community and therefore probably more people who > will donate. This solution will be a win-win situation for both sides. > > Have there been/are there any negotiations with providers or any direct > inquiries? > > I would really appreciate to have a list of providers because this is > asked in the forum a lot. > Indeed I think that our market presence is strong enough to hold this position. It's another matter to ask providers to include our package in their offers. That way they will contribute to the project (at least for big providers). As I said: I would not like to give links away 'just because' but for a defined reason. Minimum requirement beside the contribution would be a link back to our site, too. (Hostcolor did not even bother to do that) I am really allergic to advertising, and if at all it must be paid well. Regards Carsten > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: lim...@li... > [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz > Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2008 13:14 > An: lim...@li...; > lim...@li... > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > Hello Marcel, > > > I think we should not provide links to providers for two reasons: > > 1.) External links are bad for our Google page rank - as more links you > provide as worse. > 2.) Being linked by us is an economic advantage which we not should give > away for free. I someone wants to get linked by us he should contribute for > it. The only persons that get linked are contributors. > > Best regards > > Carsten > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:05:49 +0100 > > Von: "Minke, Marcel" <Mi...@hi...> > > An: "lim...@li..." > <lim...@li...> > > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > > Because there have been many request in the Forum which provider we can > > recommend I have started to extend the manual. Please have a look at > > http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation#Provider and > add > > providers you have tested successfully. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Mazi > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: lim...@li... > > [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag > von Carsten Schmitz > > Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2008 08:10 > > An: lim...@li... > > Betreff: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > > > Just found this: > > > > > http://www.webhosting.info/news/1/host-color-adds-poll-and-online-survey-to-hosting-plans_0305089165.htm > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > limesurvey-developers mailing list > > lim...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > limesurvey-developers mailing list > > lim...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > > -- > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! > Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. 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From: Carsten S. <car...@gm...> - 2008-03-10 12:13:58
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Hello Marcel, I think we should not provide links to providers for two reasons: 1.) External links are bad for our Google page rank - as more links you provide as worse. 2.) Being linked by us is an economic advantage which we not should give away for free. I someone wants to get linked by us he should contribute for it. The only persons that get linked are contributors. Best regards Carsten -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:05:49 +0100 > Von: "Minke, Marcel" <Mi...@hi...> > An: "lim...@li..." <lim...@li...> > Betreff: Re: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > Because there have been many request in the Forum which provider we can > recommend I have started to extend the manual. Please have a look at > http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation#Provider and add > providers you have tested successfully. > > Thanks a lot, > Mazi > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: lim...@li... > [mailto:lim...@li...] Im Auftrag von Carsten Schmitz > Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2008 08:10 > An: lim...@li... > Betreff: [limesurvey-developers] Found about LimeSurvey > > Just found this: > > http://www.webhosting.info/news/1/host-color-adds-poll-and-online-survey-to-hosting-plans_0305089165.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > limesurvey-developers mailing list > lim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/limesurvey-developers -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer |