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[Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty 
much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron 
jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no 
cron service.

I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do 
that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already 
have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people 
think??

Jamie


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
To: no...@so...

Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
You can respond by visiting:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1

Category: Project Web Services
>Group: First Level Support
>Status: Closed
>Priority: 5
Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
>Summary: Project hosting question

Initial Comment:
Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email

Says:

Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
content management system).

Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?

We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
however, the software requires users to enter their
email address via the web and then receive a
confirmation email message before continuing. This is
not working.

When testing - I created a simple php script to send
mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
the email.

Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
doing something wrong.

Thanks!
Jamie



----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
Date: 2005-04-05 16:49

Message:
Logged In: YES
user_id=1243797

Greetings,

The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
(link in left navbar); text shown below:

( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.

Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
matter, please add a comment to this request.

Thank you,
SourceForge.net support

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense

if not mayfirst would also be capable

thanks for all the work jaime,
mark

On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
> much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
> jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
> cron service.
> 
> I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
> that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
> have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
> think??
> 
> Jamie
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
> From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
> To: no...@so...
> 
> Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
> Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
> You can respond by visiting:
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> 
> Category: Project Web Services
> >Group: First Level Support
> >Status: Closed
> >Priority: 5
> Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
> Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> >Summary: Project hosting question
> 
> Initial Comment:
> Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
> 
> Says:
> 
> Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
> via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
> content management system).
> 
> Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
> 
> We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
> however, the software requires users to enter their
> email address via the web and then receive a
> confirmation email message before continuing. This is
> not working.
> 
> When testing - I created a simple php script to send
> mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
> from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
> exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
> the email.
> 
> Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
> doing something wrong.
> 
> Thanks!
> Jamie
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
> 
> Message:
> Logged In: YES
> user_id=1243797
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
> (link in left navbar); text shown below:
> 
> ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
> 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
> content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
> a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
> services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
> 
> Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
> matter, please add a comment to this request.
> 
> Thank you,
> SourceForge.net support
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> You can respond by visiting:
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.

	--dkg

On April 6, lib...@gm... said:

 > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 > 
 > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 > 
 > thanks for all the work jaime,
 > mark
 > 
 > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 > > cron service.
 > > 
 > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 > > think??
 > > 
 > > Jamie
 > > 
 > > -------- Original Message --------
 > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 > > To: no...@so...
 > > 
 > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > 
 > > Category: Project Web Services
 > > >Group: First Level Support
 > > >Status: Closed
 > > >Priority: 5
 > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 > > 
 > > Initial Comment:
 > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 > > 
 > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 > > 
 > > Says:
 > > 
 > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 > > content management system).
 > > 
 > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 > > 
 > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 > > email address via the web and then receive a
 > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 > > not working.
 > > 
 > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 > > the email.
 > > 
 > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 > > doing something wrong.
 > > 
 > > Thanks!
 > > Jamie
 > > 
 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > 
 > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 > > 
 > > Message:
 > > Logged In: YES
 > > user_id=1243797
 > > 
 > > Greetings,
 > > 
 > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 > > 
 > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
 > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
 > > 
 > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
 > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
 > > 
 > > Thank you,
 > > SourceForge.net support
 > > 
 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > 
 > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > 
 > > -------------------------------------------------------
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 > 
 > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt. 
Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would 
be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org 
or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along 
the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my 
muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and 
lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.

fyi.. the following domains are available:

rotisaregood.org
rotifactory.org
rotirealrealyum.org

jamie


Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
> 
> 	--dkg
> 
> On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
> 
>  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
>  > 
>  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
>  > 
>  > thanks for all the work jaime,
>  > mark
>  > 
>  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
>  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
>  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
>  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
>  > > cron service.
>  > > 
>  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
>  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
>  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
>  > > think??
>  > > 
>  > > Jamie
>  > > 
>  > > -------- Original Message --------
>  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
>  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
>  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
>  > > To: no...@so...
>  > > 
>  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
>  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
>  > > You can respond by visiting:
>  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
>  > > 
>  > > Category: Project Web Services
>  > > >Group: First Level Support
>  > > >Status: Closed
>  > > >Priority: 5
>  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
>  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
>  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
>  > > 
>  > > Initial Comment:
>  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
>  > > 
>  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
>  > > 
>  > > Says:
>  > > 
>  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
>  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
>  > > content management system).
>  > > 
>  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
>  > > 
>  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
>  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
>  > > email address via the web and then receive a
>  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
>  > > not working.
>  > > 
>  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
>  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
>  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
>  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
>  > > the email.
>  > > 
>  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
>  > > doing something wrong.
>  > > 
>  > > Thanks!
>  > > Jamie
>  > > 
>  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > > 
>  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
>  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
>  > > 
>  > > Message:
>  > > Logged In: YES
>  > > user_id=1243797
>  > > 
>  > > Greetings,
>  > > 
>  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
>  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
>  > > 
>  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
>  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
>  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
>  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
>  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
>  > > 
>  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
>  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
>  > > 
>  > > Thank you,
>  > > SourceForge.net support
>  > > 
>  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > > 
>  > > You can respond by visiting:
>  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
>  > > 
>  > > -------------------------------------------------------
>  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
>  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
>  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
>  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
>  > > Lig...@li...
>  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
>  > >
>  > 
>  > 
>  > -------------------------------------------------------
>  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
>  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
>  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
>  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
>  > Lig...@li...
>  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

for $30/year, we can register

  lightningb.ug

with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
we run our own name servers)...

	--dkg

On April 6, jm...@ma... said:

 > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt. 
 > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would 
 > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org 
 > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along 
 > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my 
 > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and 
 > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
 > 
 > fyi.. the following domains are available:
 > 
 > rotisaregood.org
 > rotifactory.org
 > rotirealrealyum.org
 > 
 > jamie
 > 
 > 
 > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
 > > 
 > > 	--dkg
 > > 
 > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 > > 
 > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 > >  > 
 > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 > >  > 
 > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
 > >  > mark
 > >  > 
 > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 > >  > > cron service.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 > >  > > think??
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Jamie
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
 > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 > >  > > To: no...@so...
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
 > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
 > >  > > >Status: Closed
 > >  > > >Priority: 5
 > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Initial Comment:
 > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Says:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 > >  > > content management system).
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
 > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 > >  > > not working.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 > >  > > the email.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 > >  > > doing something wrong.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Thanks!
 > >  > > Jamie
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Message:
 > >  > > Logged In: YES
 > >  > > user_id=1243797
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Greetings,
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
 > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
 > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Thank you,
 > >  > > SourceForge.net support
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > >  > > _______________________________________________
 > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > >  > > Lig...@li...
 > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > >  > >
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > >  > _______________________________________________
 > >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > >  > Lig...@li...
 > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > 
 > > 
 > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
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 > > Lig...@li...
 > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > 
 > 
 > -------------------------------------------------------
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 > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Dan C. <da...@jl...>]

I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.

Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
President Museveni. 

Thanks,
Dan

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:

>for $30/year, we can register
>
>  lightningb.ug
>
>with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
>we run our own name servers)...
>
>	--dkg
>
>On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
>
> > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt. 
> > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would 
> > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org 
> > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along 
> > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my 
> > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and 
> > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
> > 
> > fyi.. the following domains are available:
> > 
> > rotisaregood.org
> > rotifactory.org
> > rotirealrealyum.org
> > 
> > jamie
> > 
> > 
> > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
> > > 
> > > 	--dkg
> > > 
> > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
> > > 
> > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
> > >  > 
> > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
> > >  > 
> > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
> > >  > mark
> > >  > 
> > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
> > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
> > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
> > >  > > cron service.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
> > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
> > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
> > >  > > think??
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Jamie
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
> > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
> > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
> > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
> > >  > > To: no...@so...
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
> > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
> > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
> > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
> > >  > > >Status: Closed
> > >  > > >Priority: 5
> > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
> > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Initial Comment:
> > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Says:
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
> > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
> > >  > > content management system).
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
> > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
> > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
> > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
> > >  > > not working.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
> > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
> > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
> > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
> > >  > > the email.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
> > >  > > doing something wrong.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Thanks!
> > >  > > Jamie
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Message:
> > >  > > Logged In: YES
> > >  > > user_id=1243797
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Greetings,
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
> > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
> > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
> > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
> > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
> > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
> > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Thank you,
> > >  > > SourceForge.net support
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > >  > > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > >  > > Lig...@li...
> > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > >  > >
> > >  > 
> > >  > 
> > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > >  > Lig...@li...
> > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > > Lig...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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> > Lig...@li...
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>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
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>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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>  
>

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

  lightningb.ug sounds lovely, i 3rd or 4th the opinion to stay away
from counterconvention

http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net might work too or other things


On Apr 6, 2005 1:39 PM, Dan Check <da...@jl...> wrote:
> I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
> with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.
> 
> Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
> President Museveni.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> 
> >for $30/year, we can register
> >
> >  lightningb.ug
> >
> >with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
> >we run our own name servers)...
> >
> >       --dkg
> >
> >On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
> >
> > > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt.
> > > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would
> > > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org
> > > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along
> > > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my
> > > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and
> > > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
> > >
> > > fyi.. the following domains are available:
> > >
> > > rotisaregood.org
> > > rotifactory.org
> > > rotirealrealyum.org
> > >
> > > jamie
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> > > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
> > > >
> > > >   --dkg
> > > >
> > > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
> > > >
> > > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
> > > >  >
> > > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
> > > >  >
> > > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
> > > >  > mark
> > > >  >
> > > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> > > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
> > > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
> > > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
> > > >  > > cron service.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
> > > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
> > > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
> > > >  > > think??
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Jamie
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
> > > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
> > > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
> > > >  > > To: no...@so...
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
> > > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
> > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
> > > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
> > > >  > > >Status: Closed
> > > >  > > >Priority: 5
> > > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
> > > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Initial Comment:
> > > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Says:
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
> > > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
> > > >  > > content management system).
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
> > > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
> > > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
> > > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
> > > >  > > not working.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
> > > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
> > > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
> > > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
> > > >  > > the email.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
> > > >  > > doing something wrong.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Thanks!
> > > >  > > Jamie
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Message:
> > > >  > > Logged In: YES
> > > >  > > user_id=1243797
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Greetings,
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
> > > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
> > > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
> > > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
> > > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
> > > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
> > > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Thank you,
> > > >  > > SourceForge.net support
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > > >  > > _______________________________________________
> > > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > > >  > > Lig...@li...
> > > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > > >  > >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > > >  > _______________________________________________
> > > >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > > >  > Lig...@li...
> > > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > > > Lig...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > > Lig...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------
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> >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> >
> >
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

i've just configured lightningbug.fifthhorseman.net to point to dirt's
IP address.  that should propagate to the authoritative nameservers
within 15 minutes, iirc, and from there, however long your caching
resolver takes to flush the old NXDOMAIN responses.

as much as i like lightningb.ug, i think we probably have better
things to spend $60 + 17% VAT on for 2 years of registration.  That's
a lot of roti.

peace,

	--dkg


On April 6, lib...@gm... said:

 >   lightningb.ug sounds lovely, i 3rd or 4th the opinion to stay away
 > from counterconvention
 > 
 > http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net might work too or other things
 > 
 > 
 > On Apr 6, 2005 1:39 PM, Dan Check <da...@jl...> wrote:
 > > I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
 > > with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.
 > > 
 > > Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
 > > President Museveni.
 > > 
 > > Thanks,
 > > Dan
 > > 
 > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > 
 > > >for $30/year, we can register
 > > >
 > > >  lightningb.ug
 > > >
 > > >with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
 > > >we run our own name servers)...
 > > >
 > > >       --dkg
 > > >
 > > >On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
 > > >
 > > > > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt.
 > > > > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would
 > > > > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org
 > > > > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along
 > > > > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my
 > > > > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and
 > > > > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
 > > > >
 > > > > fyi.. the following domains are available:
 > > > >
 > > > > rotisaregood.org
 > > > > rotifactory.org
 > > > > rotirealrealyum.org
 > > > >
 > > > > jamie
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > > > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
 > > > > >
 > > > > >   --dkg
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
 > > > > >  > mark
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 > > > > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 > > > > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 > > > > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 > > > > >  > > cron service.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 > > > > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 > > > > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 > > > > >  > > think??
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Jamie
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
 > > > > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 > > > > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 > > > > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 > > > > >  > > To: no...@so...
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 > > > > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 > > > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
 > > > > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
 > > > > >  > > >Status: Closed
 > > > > >  > > >Priority: 5
 > > > > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 > > > > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > > > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Initial Comment:
 > > > > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Says:
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 > > > > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 > > > > >  > > content management system).
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 > > > > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 > > > > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
 > > > > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 > > > > >  > > not working.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 > > > > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 > > > > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 > > > > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 > > > > >  > > the email.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 > > > > >  > > doing something wrong.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Thanks!
 > > > > >  > > Jamie
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > > > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Message:
 > > > > >  > > Logged In: YES
 > > > > >  > > user_id=1243797
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Greetings,
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 > > > > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 > > > > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 > > > > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

let me just express my dismay at the fact that roti.org is taken by a
group that clearly doesn't understand the value of the name.

On April 6, dk...@fi... said:

 > i've just configured lightningbug.fifthhorseman.net to point to dirt's
 > IP address.  that should propagate to the authoritative nameservers
 > within 15 minutes, iirc, and from there, however long your caching
 > resolver takes to flush the old NXDOMAIN responses.
 > 
 > as much as i like lightningb.ug, i think we probably have better
 > things to spend $60 + 17% VAT on for 2 years of registration.  That's
 > a lot of roti.
 > 
 > peace,
 > 
 > 	--dkg
 > 
 > 
 > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 > 
 >  >   lightningb.ug sounds lovely, i 3rd or 4th the opinion to stay away
 >  > from counterconvention
 >  > 
 >  > http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net might work too or other things
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  > On Apr 6, 2005 1:39 PM, Dan Check <da...@jl...> wrote:
 >  > > I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
 >  > > with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.
 >  > > 
 >  > > Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
 >  > > President Museveni.
 >  > > 
 >  > > Thanks,
 >  > > Dan
 >  > > 
 >  > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 >  > > 
 >  > > >for $30/year, we can register
 >  > > >
 >  > > >  lightningb.ug
 >  > > >
 >  > > >with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
 >  > > >we run our own name servers)...
 >  > > >
 >  > > >       --dkg
 >  > > >
 >  > > >On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
 >  > > >
 >  > > > > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt.
 >  > > > > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would
 >  > > > > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org
 >  > > > > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along
 >  > > > > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my
 >  > > > > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and
 >  > > > > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > fyi.. the following domains are available:
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > rotisaregood.org
 >  > > > > rotifactory.org
 >  > > > > rotirealrealyum.org
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > jamie
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 >  > > > > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > >   --dkg
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
 >  > > > > >  > mark
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 >  > > > > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 >  > > > > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 >  > > > > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 >  > > > > >  > > cron service.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 >  > > > > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 >  > > > > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 >  > > > > >  > > think??
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Jamie
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
 >  > > > > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 >  > > > > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 >  > > > > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 >  > > > > >  > > To: no...@so...
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 >  > > > > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 >  > > > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 >  > > > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
 >  > > > > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
 >  > > > > >  > > >Status: Closed
 >  > > > > >  > > >Priority: 5
 >  > > > > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 >  > > > > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 >  > > > > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Initial Comment:
 >  > > > > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Says:
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 >  > > > > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 >  > > > > >  > > content management system).
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 >  > > > > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 >  > > > > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
 >  > > > > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 >  > > > > >  > > not working.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 >  > > > > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 >  > > > > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 >  > > > > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 >  > > > > >  > > the email.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 >  > > > > >  > > doing something wrong.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Thanks!
 >  > > > > >  > > Jamie
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 >  > > > > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Message:
 >  > > > > >  > > Logged In: YES
 >  > > > > >  > > user_id=1243797
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Greetings,
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 >  > > > > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 >  > > > > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 >  > > > > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 >  > > > > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
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 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
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 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Thank you,
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

> as much as i like lightningb.ug, i think we probably have better
> things to spend $60 + 17% VAT on for 2 years of registration.  That's
> a lot of roti.

awww Mom, i'll totally take care of lightningb.ug and feed it everyday
and give it fresh water, and uh, uh, uh, i'll love it and hold it and
call it george. also it sounds so good when you spell it out, 
lightning--bee--dot--you--gee

yeah, i hear ya, 60+  bucks every 2 years for a joke is a little much