Re: [Libusbx-devel] bulk transfer error centos 6.5 (32-bit) on VirtualBox running on Windows 7 (64-bit)

[Kustaa N. <Kus...@pl...>]

Well Igor,

Tim put it a bit more bluntly than I perhaps would, I actually
refrained from making a comment ... but your post came across
as Linux evangelism so I'm not surprised that it provoked a
comment... you kind of asked for it.

You may not agree with what Tim wrote but you might still
take away from this that if your users are already using
Windows then using a virtual machine with linux, especially
when you are having problem clearly related to it seems
quite the wrong way to go about it.

And for the record I agree with most what Tim wrote about
Windows though I dislike Windows.

br Kusti


On 24/06/2014 21:13, "Igor Furlan" <igo...@gm...> wrote:

>wow   this was a hammer .... thanks for explaining it in clear
>profound words   I will keep it in mind  before write another sentence
>to the libusb-devel list.
>
>Thanks and have a nice day
>
>Igor
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Tim Roberts <ti...@pr...> wrote:
>> Igor Furlan wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Tim Roberts <ti...@pr...> wrote:
>>>> One of the advantages of libusb is that it crosses platforms.  Why
>>>>don't you run your code on Windows?
>>> Yes I could,,, but I wrote already few other utilities on LINUX
>>> (mostly GPIB related). I would like to continue on Linux. On top of
>>> that, licensing is free, no virues,  upgrading linux require just a
>>> recompile of my utilities, stability, reliability, abundance of
>>> programming/scripting tools   so, the users can use my utilities
>>> within any programming environment they are comfortable with. Like
>>> octave, shells,c, C++, Ruby, Perl, Pascal adn as a command line.
>>
>> OK, but you are intentionally overlooking the very important point that
>> YOUR USERS ARE ALREADY RUNNING WINDOWS.  You said this yourself.  They
>> already have licenses.  They already have virus checkers.  They already
>> know how to launch programs and interact.  They do not know Octave,
>> bash, Ruby, Perl, or Pascal.  You are asking them to run an additional
>> rather intrusive tool (VirtualBox) so they can run an entirely
>> unfamiliar environment just so you can feel religiously pure in your
>> development.
>>
>> Your upgrade argument is also silly.  An upgrade of Windows doesn't
>> require ANY recompiling of your tools and utilities.  The old binaries
>> just keep on working.  Microsoft has spent a vast fortune to ensure that
>> the Fortune 100 companies don't have to do any work on their
>> line-of-business tools to slip in an operating system upgrade.  Linux
>> developers, on the other hand, tend to favor purity over compatibility.
>>
>>
>>> Working remotely is a plus...  etc ..    Stuff I wrote in 2002/03 in
>>> my former company is still in use today, 12 years later. It was
>>> written for RedHat 8 2012 and just recompiled on CentOS 6.
>>
>> You're just making stuff up that doesn't have any basis in fact.  The
>> Windows remote access tools are just as good or better than the remote
>> access tools on Linux.  I'm still running Windows tools that I wrote and
>> last compiled in 1995.  Now that I'm running a 64-bit Windows, my
>> 25-year-old 16-bit tools no longer run, but I've known that was coming
>> for 10 years.
>>
>> It's interesting that you tried to use backwards compatibility as an
>> argument.  As a driver writer, I know that Windows has the best
>> backwards compatibility behavior of ANY of the major operating systems.
>> The video capture driver BINARIES that I wrote for Windows 98SE way back
>> in the 20th Century still run in Windows 8.  With a Linux kernel driver,
>> you often don't even get SOURCE compatibility between version x.y.z and
>> x.y.z+1.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Roberts, ti...@pr...
>> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>>
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