Re: [Libusb-devel] USB VID/PID for open source projects

[Тихомиров В. <int...@ya...>]

>  I believe that intent is the key. The particular intent to sell PIDs
>  is disallowed, because it would create a messy gray market. But if
>  the intent is to sell chips then assigning PIDs is fine, as long as
>  all parties are aware that the VID still is directly connected to the
>  VID assignee.

Any market is "messy", you know. Being unpredictable is its main feature. This is opposite to "planned economy". The planned economy will always have the gray market, the symptom of its inefficiency, as the dominating market ideology teaches us. Single authority cannot efficiently distribute the goods. You must liberate the economy, permit illegal operations, to make it "not gray". Permitting the "free of charge" distribution does not improve the control over the distributions. 

>  In my communication with USB-IF it has been confirmed that it's
>  perfectly fine to assign PIDs to a third party.

For this reason they deny selling PIDs to third parties.

>  Have you actually read the agreements? They cover revocation as well.
>>   If VID holder satisfies too many users, that could be the clients
>>   of USB-IF, his activity becomes illegal.
>  That's not how it works. Please stop ranting and do more thorough
>  research.

Even those who sign them, Texas Instruments, do not read. I see that USB-IF forces us to purchase unnecessarily large address spaces. What should I learn to think otherwise?


Val



25.03.2011, 16:40, "Peter Stuge" <pe...@st...>;:

>  Тихомиров Валентин wrote:
>>   The capitalistic profit maximization makes the life on the Earth
>>   incredibly difficult,
>  This is of course another discussion completely. Not what we are
>  talking about.
>>   The profit-hungry standard owner even does not hesitate to revoke
>>   his signed agreements.
>  Have you actually read the agreements? They cover revocation as well.
>>   I wonder how Microchip and Free Foundation have the nerve to
>>   operate.
>  I believe that intent is the key. The particular intent to sell PIDs
>  is disallowed, because it would create a messy gray market. But if
>  the intent is to sell chips then assigning PIDs is fine, as long as
>  all parties are aware that the VID still is directly connected to the
>  VID assignee.
>
>  In my communication with USB-IF it has been confirmed that it's
>  perfectly fine to assign PIDs to a third party.
>>>   http://www.mcselec.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=92&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=1
>>   Many health to this company.
>  I disagree. I don't think the company is really doing anything good.
>>   USB-IF go f****!
>  You may want to consider that were it not for the USB-IF there would
>  be no USB as we know it at all.
>
>  //Peter
>
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