[libdb-develop] Re: On Naming A Person and The Cultural And Familiar Divide

[Bruce D'A. <bd...@fa...>]

On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Morbus Iff wrote:

>  >This isn't a problem though.  Just attach an xml:lang attribute to 
> such
>  >names.  This is part of the reason to use family and given rather 
> than
>
> But, still: in my head, it's not that easy. If my client (a movie
> rental store) is adding in cast information, it assumes a great deal
> of knowledge for him: that he's going to know what nationality a name
> is coming from (he has roughly 2000 foreign films), as well as how
> to properly split the given and family depending on that nationality
> (as well as being able to spot errors from people who don't and have
> placed it on the box cover wrong, in IMDB wrong, etc., etc., which
> happens very, very frequently).

OK, fair enough; it's not exactly "easy" ;-)

Part of what you're observing, though, is not a data issue, but an 
interface issue  Of course they're related, but not so closely that we 
can't disentangle them (perhaps?).

> Likewise, it also assumes that extra information is out there 
> somewhere for me to aggregate: basing some data entry from IMDB or 
> Amazon would be impossible.

I know nothing about the formats of either of these.  What's the 
problem that makes it "impossible"?  Maybe there are library sources of 
MARC records you could source?

I just looked in my library catalog for the Blade Runner video, which 
returned this MARC record.  Seems key names are parsed (see the 700 
fields), and other names (e.g. cast) are not:

001    15494415
005    19971103080721.0
007    vfucbaho-
008    870406s1986    cau122 g          vleng dcgmIa
040    IJC|cIJC|dDLM
049    MIBN
090    PN1997|b.B592 1986
245 00 Blade runner|h[videorecording] /|cThe Ladd Company
260    Los Angeles :|bEmbassy Home Entertainment,|cc1986
300    1 videocassette (122 min.) :|bsd., col. ;|c1/2 in
500    VHS format
500    "VHS hi-fi stereo 1380."
500    "Mono compatible". --- container
500    Based on the novel Do androids dream of electric sheep? by
        Philip K. Dick
500    Winner of: Los Angeles film critic's award, RIAA and ITA
        video awards, 3 British academy awards, 2 academy award
        nominations
500    Videocassette release of the 1982 motion picture by The
        Ladd Company, originally rated R
500    Miami University's MCIS video collection
508    Producer, Michael Deeley : director, Ridley Scott ;
        screenplay, Hampton Fancher and David Peoples ; visual
        effects, Douglas Trumbull ; original music, Vangelis ;
        photography, Jordan Cronenweth ; editor, Terry Rawlings
511 1  Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young, Edward James
        Olmos, Daryl Hannah
520    A futuristic tale set in the Los Angeles of 2020
520    Directed by Ridley Scott with Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer,
        Sean Young and Edward James Olmos. Harrison Ford is at his
        suspenseful best as he takes you on a frightening,
        futuristic detective mission to track down and eliminate
        four renegade "replicants", genetically engineered humans
        of superior strength and intelligence. Riveting visual
        effects reflect the bleakness of a world winding down.
        It's like nothing you've ever seen. (Tamarelle) 1982 R
650  0 Science fiction films
650  0 Feature films
700 1  Ford, Harrison,|d1942-
700 1  Hauer, Rutger,|d1944-
700 1  Dick, Philip K.|tDo androids dream of electric sheep?
        |h[videorecording]
700 10 Scott, Ridley
710 2  Ladd Company
710 2  Embassy Home Entertainment (Firm)
830  0 MCIS video collection ;|vFS-9
947    upd  df

Bruce