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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-17 16:52:14
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Ok, didn't realize liveice was so console oriented - makes a whole ton of sense now. ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:54 AM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: Re: [ldj-devel] Knoppix 3.12 > > > > I'm short on my imagination pills today, but how would you mix multiple > > streams in realtime via a CLI environment? Do you canadians have extra > > fingers or something (j/k ;). I think we may be able to snag > the Mandrake > > liveice does it by having volume control mapped to keys for each > stream (but > there's only 2 in liveice). So, I'd usually do something like hitting > zmzmzmzmzmzm if 'z' was volume-up on one stream, and 'm' was volume down > on the second. > > For our stuff, I was thinking more like a fader control... you > have a slider, > that controls the volume of 1 or 2 streams like so: > > <==================[]==================> > sound 1 100% sound 1 0% > sound 2 0% sound 2 100% > > and you choose (mixed or unmixed) streams (or nothing) to 'assign' to > sound 1 vs. sound 2. This way you can fade between one track and another, > between one track and a microphone stream, or just fade out one stream. > > As a complex example: > > Stream A: drum track > Stream B: bass track > Stream C: hihat > Stream D: microphone > > start fading in bass: > > sound 1 = bass > sound 2 = null > slide slowly to bass=80% > > start fading in drums: > > sound 1 = drums > sound 2 = null still > slide slowly to drums=80% (volume of bass > stays at 80%) > > fade out drums to hihat: > sound 1 = drums > sound 2 = hihat > slide slowly to drums=0%,hihat=100% > > fade out whole mix to mike: > sound 1 = drums+bass+hihat > sound 2 = mike > slide to sound2=100% > > That's a rather unneccesarily complex example, since even the djs will > generally mix between 2 tracks at any given time... so we can start with > just 2 (and no 'mixed' streams allowed to be assigned to the slider') > > If you know any djs, just go watch 'em work. This is directly modeled > after a mixing board. > > -- > Andy Berdan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-17 14:56:09
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> I'm short on my imagination pills today, but how would you mix multiple > streams in realtime via a CLI environment? Do you canadians have extra > fingers or something (j/k ;). I think we may be able to snag the Mandrake liveice does it by having volume control mapped to keys for each stream (but there's only 2 in liveice). So, I'd usually do something like hitting zmzmzmzmzmzm if 'z' was volume-up on one stream, and 'm' was volume down on the second. For our stuff, I was thinking more like a fader control... you have a slider, that controls the volume of 1 or 2 streams like so: <==================[]==================> sound 1 100% sound 1 0% sound 2 0% sound 2 100% and you choose (mixed or unmixed) streams (or nothing) to 'assign' to sound 1 vs. sound 2. This way you can fade between one track and another, between one track and a microphone stream, or just fade out one stream. As a complex example: Stream A: drum track Stream B: bass track Stream C: hihat Stream D: microphone start fading in bass: sound 1 = bass sound 2 = null slide slowly to bass=80% start fading in drums: sound 1 = drums sound 2 = null still slide slowly to drums=80% (volume of bass stays at 80%) fade out drums to hihat: sound 1 = drums sound 2 = hihat slide slowly to drums=0%,hihat=100% fade out whole mix to mike: sound 1 = drums+bass+hihat sound 2 = mike slide to sound2=100% That's a rather unneccesarily complex example, since even the djs will generally mix between 2 tracks at any given time... so we can start with just 2 (and no 'mixed' streams allowed to be assigned to the slider') If you know any djs, just go watch 'em work. This is directly modeled after a mixing board. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-17 14:44:13
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> I'm going to try and get liveice running tonite - how console friendly is > it? Or is it totally a console app? Totally console.. there is an X frontend, but it's a nasty hack, and I could never get it to work. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-16 23:14:04
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> -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:28 PM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: Re: [ldj-devel] Knoppix 3.12 > > > > I would think a web interface would be best, assuming the sound > configuration > > stuff seems to work well. I would think I would run it > headless on a box for > > playing tunes?? > > That's fine for a jukebox-style system, but one of the things I was > interested in using the system for was real-time dj mixing, with multiple > source streams and stuff. A web interface has too much latency for that, > Either a custom client-server system, an X11 app, or a console app with > some sort of ssh/telnet/remotesomething access would be needed. Each have > their own pros and cons. I'm short on my imagination pills today, but how would you mix multiple streams in realtime via a CLI environment? Do you canadians have extra fingers or something (j/k ;). I think we may be able to snag the Mandrake or Redhat install environment (the X server that works on most any video card automatically) - is that what Knoppix uses? - and run an X app ontop of it. That's /way/ out of my ballpark as far as development goes though - I hear coding for X is a bitch no matter how long you've been doing it? I was about to suggest a java applet or something, but irrc, the JVM can't directly access any hardware (like, say, the sound card? :) - it could always front end a bunch of shell scripts for stuff like volume changes or mixes? An applet would be the one 'client' that would be hte most multiplatform of anything that could handle 'real time' mixing. > > I'm more inclined to start with a console version, then move to a custom > client-server model (which can support multiple platforms for the client). > > > the FAQ has docs for copyin' the install to the harddisk. I > haven't tried it > > but it doesn't look to difficult just copy /KNOPPIX directory > to a mounted ext2 > > partition, edit fstab and lilo.conf and reboot. > > Do you (or anyone else) have enough free time to take a crack at it, then? > Then all we have to do is figure out how to remaster the CD. A system > for applying system-wide diffs would be nice too, for sharing changes > between ourselves--but I think that'd be pretty easy. CVS can only track text, right? As far as tracking changes, what did you have in mind? A 'uge 'diff' run after every setup? We definitely need to keep the posted changes down to patches or <1 or 2M gzips - I don't wanna have to download 700+M everytime we make a config file change ;) |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-16 23:06:21
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> > How 'featurefull' do we want to make this? SSH, apache, icecast, samba? > > Um. Yes, yes, yes and yes. :) > > And liveice too. But of course - I thought it ws part of icecast (my bad). > > Initially, we could skip some features, such as the web interface, unless > someone is pretty gung-ho about implementing it now. I'm definitely not. > My web development skills are low to non-existant. :) > > > Should we even enable interactive console access? > > For liveice, yes. I'm going to try and get liveice running tonite - how console friendly is it? Or is it totally a console app? > > > Set the only user shell > > to the ldj-ncurses interface of something (at least, when it 'ships')? > > That's not a bad idea, but perhaps allow some way of breaking out of it... > Just so anyone who wants to play with the system can do so... > > Dunno how, though. Any ideas? Use the Novell patented Many-Finger-Salute (for those who have never used Netware, to break the system into 'debug mode' - only way to restart a frozen system safely, you simultaneously press "Ctrl-left shift-right shift-alt-Esc" - which is harder than it looks on most keyboards (esp. if you have little hands ;). Seriously though, why not just make it a menu option or something? We're not trying to FORCE an interface on our users (obviously ;), and if they fux0r something up, just powercycle, and they'll be back where they started - after all, it's running off a CD ;) > > > As far as a fork or 'patch' - I don't really think the Knoppix > guy(s) would > > care for a patch that knocked hundreds of megs off their image > - kinda goes > > against the grain of what they look like their trying to do? > > I def. think we can use htem as a platform, with full credit as > such, but I > > don't think building our stuff into theirs is going to really > go off well > > (unless we can add a few hundred K to their image for our scripts? :). > > I was kind of leaning towards a fork rather than a patch. Just gauging > other people's reactions. Sounds like forking is the decision, then? > > Mmmm... fork... Spoon! |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-16 19:40:17
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> I'm more inclined to start with a console version, then move to a custom > client-server model (which can support multiple platforms for the client). addendum: Theses are not to replace the web interface, though. A parallel interface. I still think a web interface is a great idea for users who only want a jukebox-style system. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-16 19:38:39
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> How 'featurefull' do we want to make this? SSH, apache, icecast, samba? Um. Yes, yes, yes and yes. :) And liveice too. Initially, we could skip some features, such as the web interface, unless someone is pretty gung-ho about implementing it now. I'm definitely not. My web development skills are low to non-existant. :) > Should we even enable interactive console access? For liveice, yes. > Set the only user shell > to the ldj-ncurses interface of something (at least, when it 'ships')? That's not a bad idea, but perhaps allow some way of breaking out of it... Just so anyone who wants to play with the system can do so... Dunno how, though. Any ideas? > As far as a fork or 'patch' - I don't really think the Knoppix guy(s) would > care for a patch that knocked hundreds of megs off their image - kinda goes > against the grain of what they look like their trying to do? > I def. think we can use htem as a platform, with full credit as such, but I > don't think building our stuff into theirs is going to really go off well > (unless we can add a few hundred K to their image for our scripts? :). I was kind of leaning towards a fork rather than a patch. Just gauging other people's reactions. Sounds like forking is the decision, then? Mmmm... fork... -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-16 19:30:51
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> I would think a web interface would be best, assuming the sound configuration > stuff seems to work well. I would think I would run it headless on a box for > playing tunes?? That's fine for a jukebox-style system, but one of the things I was interested in using the system for was real-time dj mixing, with multiple source streams and stuff. A web interface has too much latency for that, Either a custom client-server system, an X11 app, or a console app with some sort of ssh/telnet/remotesomething access would be needed. Each have their own pros and cons. I'm more inclined to start with a console version, then move to a custom client-server model (which can support multiple platforms for the client). > the FAQ has docs for copyin' the install to the harddisk. I haven't tried it > but it doesn't look to difficult just copy /KNOPPIX directory to a mounted ext2 > partition, edit fstab and lilo.conf and reboot. Do you (or anyone else) have enough free time to take a crack at it, then? Then all we have to do is figure out how to remaster the CD. A system for applying system-wide diffs would be nice too, for sharing changes between ourselves--but I think that'd be pretty easy. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-14 22:52:03
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How 'featurefull' do we want to make this? SSH, apache, icecast, samba? Should we even enable interactive console access? Set the only user shell to the ldj-ncurses interface of something (at least, when it 'ships')? As far as a fork or 'patch' - I don't really think the Knoppix guy(s) would care for a patch that knocked hundreds of megs off their image - kinda goes against the grain of what they look like their trying to do? I def. think we can use htem as a platform, with full credit as such, but I don't think building our stuff into theirs is going to really go off well (unless we can add a few hundred K to their image for our scripts? :). > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Sheldon > Mustard > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:01 PM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: Re: [ldj-devel] Knoppix 3.12 > > > Quoting Andy Berdan <an...@bi...>: > > But, for the most part, it's probably the best distro I've seen so far > > for figuring out everything (though I haven't really checked many out). > > I have tested several (note: i use them to admin windows boxes > around work, dd > new images is a better description then admin but that is another story). > Anyways it is the best one i have seen, one thing I plan to > change when I get > some time is to enable ssh by default so I can just throw the CD in a box > somewhere on our network and shell into it. > > > The no passwords by default is fine if logins are restricted to > > the console. I don't know what would be a good idea for our system. > > Maybe even restrict people to either use a keypair for ssh > authentication, > > or log into the console. > > I would think a web interface would be best, assuming the sound > configuration > stuff seems to work well. I would think I would run it headless > on a box for > playing tunes?? > > > Probably the first step for us would be to create a script or something > > for installing knoppix to the hard drive, and another for reimaging it > > and possibly burning it. (with options for 650M/700M?). > > the FAQ has docs for copyin' the install to the harddisk. I > haven't tried it > but it doesn't look to difficult just copy /KNOPPIX directory to > a mounted ext2 > partition, edit fstab and lilo.conf and reboot. > > later, > > SJM > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel |
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From: Sheldon M. <sjm...@uw...> - 2002-08-14 18:01:11
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Quoting Andy Berdan <an...@bi...>: > But, for the most part, it's probably the best distro I've seen so far > for figuring out everything (though I haven't really checked many out). I have tested several (note: i use them to admin windows boxes around work, dd new images is a better description then admin but that is another story). Anyways it is the best one i have seen, one thing I plan to change when I get some time is to enable ssh by default so I can just throw the CD in a box somewhere on our network and shell into it. > The no passwords by default is fine if logins are restricted to > the console. I don't know what would be a good idea for our system. > Maybe even restrict people to either use a keypair for ssh authentication, > or log into the console. I would think a web interface would be best, assuming the sound configuration stuff seems to work well. I would think I would run it headless on a box for playing tunes?? > Probably the first step for us would be to create a script or something > for installing knoppix to the hard drive, and another for reimaging it > and possibly burning it. (with options for 650M/700M?). the FAQ has docs for copyin' the install to the harddisk. I haven't tried it but it doesn't look to difficult just copy /KNOPPIX directory to a mounted ext2 partition, edit fstab and lilo.conf and reboot. later, SJM |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-14 15:45:05
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> i booted it in console with no X and everything worked great. It had some framebuffer issues with my laptop (had to force it to 800x600), and it didn't autodetect a netcard on another box.. as I said before, the dos swap file thing had some issues, as did the /dev/audio symlink. But, for the most part, it's probably the best distro I've seen so far for figuring out everything (though I haven't really checked many out). > one thing is it takes forever to boot so we will probably want to speed > that up, oh and the no passwords by default too :). The no passwords by default is fine if logins are restricted to the console. I don't know what would be a good idea for our system. Maybe even restrict people to either use a keypair for ssh authentication, or log into the console. > all the code is GPL'ed correct?? I'd imagine so. I haven't really plumbed the depth of the CD to find the source, or even determined if it's on the CD, or a source-by-request thing. Probably the first step for us would be to create a script or something for installing knoppix to the hard drive, and another for reimaging it and possibly burning it. (with options for 650M/700M?). This is probably something that we can do in concert with knopper. Which brings up another question... should we just add our junk to knoppix, or fork knoppix to a seperate distro? -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Sheldon M. <sjm...@uw...> - 2002-08-14 14:59:28
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Andy Berdan wrote: > There's craploads of stuff in there that we can rip out... OpenOffice, > gimp, games, window managers, and probably lots of other stuff. i booted it in console with no X and everything worked great. i will do it again today sometime and see the kind of space it takes up. one thing is it takes forever to boot so we will probably want to speed that up, oh and the no passwords by default too :). > I sent a bugfix off to the author yesterday, and also asked if there was a > possibility of getting the distro as a 650M image. No replies yet. all the code is GPL'ed correct?? later, SJM |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-14 13:55:26
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> Soon as I get a chance to burn it (gotta have the overburn drive ;), I'll > take a look at it. Do you see very much in there that can be just > completely ripped out? Like, no need for a LARGE number of 'normal' > utilities - just our 'interface' software and drivers, right? I can't > imagine that being ANYWHERE near 600M - but then again, I haven't seen > what's in Knoppix yet. Glad to see that not everyone died out there ;) There's craploads of stuff in there that we can rip out... OpenOffice, gimp, games, window managers, and probably lots of other stuff. It is using cloop (compressed loopback, probably) for the system, so there's actually ~1.6G of space to deal with crammed into 700M. I sent a bugfix off to the author yesterday, and also asked if there was a possibility of getting the distro as a 650M image. No replies yet. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-14 05:27:26
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Soon as I get a chance to burn it (gotta have the overburn drive ;), I'll take a look at it. Do you see very much in there that can be just completely ripped out? Like, no need for a LARGE number of 'normal' utilities - just our 'interface' software and drivers, right? I can't imagine that being ANYWHERE near 600M - but then again, I haven't seen what's in Knoppix yet. Glad to see that not everyone died out there ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:32 AM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: [ldj-devel] Knoppix 3.12 > > > I got a copy of Knoppix 3.12 burnt at work today. > > Very very impressive. I'd suggest anyone take a look at it. > It autoconfigured my soundcard, and the /dev/dsp device worked fine > right off the bat. > > The /dev/audio device, however, didn't... probably something with the > SBLive! driver or something. Redirecting /dev/audio to /dev/dsp fixed > things, so I could play a stream via XMMS perfectly. > > I think it'll make a good starting point for ldj, once we can figure out > how to remaster the thing (preferably as a 650M image). > > -- > Andy Berdan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel > |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-14 04:35:38
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I got a copy of Knoppix 3.12 burnt at work today. Very very impressive. I'd suggest anyone take a look at it. It autoconfigured my soundcard, and the /dev/dsp device worked fine right off the bat. The /dev/audio device, however, didn't... probably something with the SBLive! driver or something. Redirecting /dev/audio to /dev/dsp fixed things, so I could play a stream via XMMS perfectly. I think it'll make a good starting point for ldj, once we can figure out how to remaster the thing (preferably as a 650M image). -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-11 21:40:46
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1.6G? Jesus - is it the whole debian distro on one cd? Hrm, I'll check into it. > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 4:43 PM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: Re: [ldj-devel] (no subject) > > > > Cool - I've got access to an overburning burner, I'll d/l the > ISO, and see > > if I can't rip anything out of it. You could always mount the ISO in > > loopback mode, right? I'm sure there's a gazillion things in the image > > itself we can dump. > > It might be tricky. I believe I read that it uses a compressed live > filesystem (cloop, maybe? -- started with a 'c' anyways) to get ~1.6G > on the cd. > > -- > Andy Berdan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-11 20:46:25
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> Cool - I've got access to an overburning burner, I'll d/l the ISO, and see > if I can't rip anything out of it. You could always mount the ISO in > loopback mode, right? I'm sure there's a gazillion things in the image > itself we can dump. It might be tricky. I believe I read that it uses a compressed live filesystem (cloop, maybe? -- started with a 'c' anyways) to get ~1.6G on the cd. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-11 17:15:39
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I've been looking at the sources for some knoppix stuff - despite being a debian distro, they've ripped off some sweet looking detector code for various sound cards (by sweet, I mean it has a lot of cards) - we might be able to use this, maybe as a base for figuring out which modules we need to include with out setup? The files are @ http://www.knopper.net/download/knoppix/ grab the 'sndconfig-knoppix' tarball (I was looking at .057-7), and there are some .c and .h files in the archive. Did we ever come to consensus as to what kind of interface we'd want (web, or cli / ncurses?) |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-11 17:10:18
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Cool - I've got access to an overburning burner, I'll d/l the ISO, and see if I can't rip anything out of it. You could always mount the ISO in loopback mode, right? I'm sure there's a gazillion things in the image itself we can dump. > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:38 AM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: Re: [ldj-devel] (no subject) > > > > It looks like we may be able to just hijack their bootable CD, > and stick our > > own apps on it. I'd like to pick back up on LDJ, as I still > think it'd be a > > neat thing to get done - but I can't go it alone (don't know > nearly enough > > about some stuff to handle it by myself!!). > > Let us know how the ISO works out, and if we're gonna continue this? > > I've also readded your to the proj. Andy, so everything should > be good to > > go. > > One problem. Knoppix is on an overburnt cd, and my burner doesn't > support overburning. > > I did, however, find a number of other sites that have a similar > system, most > notably demolinux.org. I'm trying to d/l an image now, but it's > a bit slow. > > -- > Andy Berdan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel > |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-11 14:41:30
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> It looks like we may be able to just hijack their bootable CD, and stick our > own apps on it. I'd like to pick back up on LDJ, as I still think it'd be a > neat thing to get done - but I can't go it alone (don't know nearly enough > about some stuff to handle it by myself!!). > Let us know how the ISO works out, and if we're gonna continue this? > I've also readded your to the proj. Andy, so everything should be good to > go. One problem. Knoppix is on an overburnt cd, and my burner doesn't support overburning. I did, however, find a number of other sites that have a similar system, most notably demolinux.org. I'm trying to d/l an image now, but it's a bit slow. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-11 07:46:18
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It looks like we may be able to just hijack their bootable CD, and stick our own apps on it. I'd like to pick back up on LDJ, as I still think it'd be a neat thing to get done - but I can't go it alone (don't know nearly enough about some stuff to handle it by myself!!). Let us know how the ISO works out, and if we're gonna continue this? I've also readded your to the proj. Andy, so everything should be good to go. > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:36 PM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: [ldj-devel] (no subject) > > > I imagine many of you have seen this, but it's reminded me of ldj, > at the very least. I'm downloading an iso now. > > From the (skimpy) pre-install documentation, it seems that there > isn't very decent support for using this system as a install disk, > like our concept. However, it does have some good ideas (depending on > point-of-view), like having boot-time options for configuring user-space > apps at the LILO-prompt. > > 'course, this means putting something in the kernel that takes > boot-time stuff and writes out a settings file or some junk... (hence > the point-of-view remark). > > What's the status of things in general? > > Oh, Adam... since my magus.[dyn.]dhs.org domain tanked, I've lost my > password for sourceforge... I'll need my new account (berdandy) set up > as a member/admin/whatever of ldj. > > -- > Andy Berdan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel > |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-08-11 07:40:15
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Sorry it took so long for me to respond, I didn't even notice the new message indicator for this folder, it's been so quite for so long. I'll set you up ASAP. > -----Original Message----- > From: ldj...@li... > [mailto:ldj...@li...]On Behalf Of Andy Berdan > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:36 PM > To: ldj...@li... > Subject: [ldj-devel] (no subject) > > > I imagine many of you have seen this, but it's reminded me of ldj, > at the very least. I'm downloading an iso now. > > From the (skimpy) pre-install documentation, it seems that there > isn't very decent support for using this system as a install disk, > like our concept. However, it does have some good ideas (depending on > point-of-view), like having boot-time options for configuring user-space > apps at the LILO-prompt. > > 'course, this means putting something in the kernel that takes > boot-time stuff and writes out a settings file or some junk... (hence > the point-of-view remark). > > What's the status of things in general? > > Oh, Adam... since my magus.[dyn.]dhs.org domain tanked, I've lost my > password for sourceforge... I'll need my new account (berdandy) set up > as a member/admin/whatever of ldj. > > -- > Andy Berdan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > ldj-devel mailing list > ldj...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ldj-devel > |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-10 17:56:11
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Meant to include this in the subject line: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Andy B. <an...@bi...> - 2002-08-10 17:39:02
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I imagine many of you have seen this, but it's reminded me of ldj, at the very least. I'm downloading an iso now. From the (skimpy) pre-install documentation, it seems that there isn't very decent support for using this system as a install disk, like our concept. However, it does have some good ideas (depending on point-of-view), like having boot-time options for configuring user-space apps at the LILO-prompt. 'course, this means putting something in the kernel that takes boot-time stuff and writes out a settings file or some junk... (hence the point-of-view remark). What's the status of things in general? Oh, Adam... since my magus.[dyn.]dhs.org domain tanked, I've lost my password for sourceforge... I'll need my new account (berdandy) set up as a member/admin/whatever of ldj. -- Andy Berdan |
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From: Adam C. <ac...@am...> - 2002-07-28 06:09:10
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Anybody still out there? Did everyone unsubscribe? |
