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[lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

Hi I would like to get started with lcd4linux but I am having trouble  
finding a howto guide for users in english.  There seems to be (in  
addition to ample pharm spam) a German lang PDG at the projects  
homepage, but didn't see much else.  Where can I download drivers,  
etc?  Thanks!

Robert

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

I did find the tarball on sourceforge but I still am not seeing any  
documentaion.  There are a few things I love to know.  The first and  
foremost is:

Is there a Fedora binary in the works, if not, I would love to help  
someone make one (although I have not RPM'd tarballs before).

Also, I am about to install lcd4linux on Fedora Core 4, if anyone has  
done so in the past and can give me some pointers, that would be  
terrific.

Lastly, I am trying to maintain a very minimal FC4 build, thus if we  
could determine which packages are required for install and doc that  
here that would be quite good too.

Thanks!

On Sep 27, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Robert Denton wrote:

> Hi I would like to get started with lcd4linux but I am having trouble
> finding a howto guide for users in english.  There seems to be (in
> addition to ample pharm spam) a German lang PDG at the projects
> homepage, but didn't see much else.  Where can I download drivers,
> etc?  Thanks!
>
> Robert
>
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Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Robert,

> I did find the tarball on sourceforge but I still am not seeing any 
> documentaion.
Please don't use the SF pages, instead go to http://lcd4linux.bulix.org.
I think there's pretty much docs available there in the wiki....

> Is there a Fedora binary in the works, if not, I would love to help 
> someone make one (although I have not RPM'd tarballs before).
I'm afraid there is none, at least none that I know of.

> Lastly, I am trying to maintain a very minimal FC4 build, thus if we 
> could determine which packages are required for install and doc that 
> here that would be quite good too.
Well, this depends on what display you want to use. But 'configure'
should find out most of it. There are only a few dependencies...

>> There seems to be (in addition to ample pharm spam)
what spam are you talking about? I wanna know and remove it :-)


bye, Michael

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Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

Thanks for the response Michael.  As it turns out I think the pharm  
spam is gone now so you must have found it. At one point there was  
nothing at all in the trac pages except links I was not interested in  
following, offering free [insert drug here].  Thanks for cleaning  
that up.

I got the .10 tarball and did a quick ./configure and a quick make,  
bu the make terminated quickly with this:

[root@localhost lcd4linux-0.10.0]# make
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.    -D_GNU_SOURCE -Wall -W -g -O2 -c  
drv_generic_i2c.c
In file included from drv_generic_i2c.c:76:
lcd4linux_i2c.h:81: error: array type has incomplete element type
make: *** [drv_generic_i2c.o] Error 1


Looks like I have some work to do ;)  As it happens I just got the  
unit with the LCD (20x4 Crystalfontz CFA-635) and I through Fedora on  
it very quickly with little thought to my eventual production  
environment.  I just wanted to see what cool things I could do with  
it.  Alas...

I will rebuild the unit in my typical gui-less build and try it again.

I am still interested in working with someone on putting together a  
Fedora RPM for lcd4linux, so if anyone wants to collaborate on that  
please let me know. More shortly.



On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Michael Reinelt wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
>> I did find the tarball on sourceforge but I still am not seeing any
>> documentaion.
> Please don't use the SF pages, instead go to http:// 
> lcd4linux.bulix.org.
> I think there's pretty much docs available there in the wiki....
>
>> Is there a Fedora binary in the works, if not, I would love to help
>> someone make one (although I have not RPM'd tarballs before).
> I'm afraid there is none, at least none that I know of.
>
>> Lastly, I am trying to maintain a very minimal FC4 build, thus if we
>> could determine which packages are required for install and doc that
>> here that would be quite good too.
> Well, this depends on what display you want to use. But 'configure'
> should find out most of it. There are only a few dependencies...
>
>>> There seems to be (in addition to ample pharm spam)
> what spam are you talking about? I wanna know and remove it :-)
>
>
> bye, Michael
>
> -- 
> Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
> http://home.pages.at/reinelt
> GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
> ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Robert,

> Thanks for the response Michael.  As it turns out I think the pharm  
> spam is gone now so you must have found it. At one point there was  
> nothing at all in the trac pages except links I was not interested in  
> following, offering free [insert drug here].  Thanks for cleaning  
> that up.

Ah, yes, I remember. The title page has been spammed yesterday...

> lcd4linux_i2c.h:81: error: array type has incomplete element type

This is a known bug, which is fixed in CVS. I'd recommend you to use the
CVS version anyway, cause some 635 issues have been solved there IIRC.

> I am still interested in working with someone on putting together a  
> Fedora RPM for lcd4linux, so if anyone wants to collaborate on that  
> please let me know. More shortly.

I'm a debian user, so I can't be of much help here.... but there's a
SuSE RPM (don't know if Fedora and SuSE RPM's are compatible) Don't know
if there are some "RPM sources" available in CVS....



bye, Michael


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Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

Hi Michael,

When you say use the CVS version, what do you mean?  I looked in the  
SVN repo in yout trac page and it seems empty, also the tarball I got  
was from sourceforge as I recall and you mentioned not to use that  
site, right?  Would you be so kind as to provide a link to the best  
tarball to use?

The last I looked, the SuSE RPM was for lcd4linux .9 and not the  
newer .10.  Thanks!

Robert Denton
Network Administrator
Headsprout
800.401.5062 x1305
www.headsprout.com

On Sep 28, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Michael Reinelt wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
>> Thanks for the response Michael.  As it turns out I think the pharm
>> spam is gone now so you must have found it. At one point there was
>> nothing at all in the trac pages except links I was not interested in
>> following, offering free [insert drug here].  Thanks for cleaning
>> that up.
>
> Ah, yes, I remember. The title page has been spammed yesterday...
>
>> lcd4linux_i2c.h:81: error: array type has incomplete element type
>
> This is a known bug, which is fixed in CVS. I'd recommend you to  
> use the
> CVS version anyway, cause some 635 issues have been solved there IIRC.
>
>> I am still interested in working with someone on putting together a
>> Fedora RPM for lcd4linux, so if anyone wants to collaborate on that
>> please let me know. More shortly.
>
> I'm a debian user, so I can't be of much help here.... but there's a
> SuSE RPM (don't know if Fedora and SuSE RPM's are compatible) Don't  
> know
> if there are some "RPM sources" available in CVS....
>
>
>
> bye, Michael
>
>
> -- 
> Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
> http://home.pages.at/reinelt
> GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
> ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

Hi,

Looking through the CVS repos on sf.net, I see that there are many  
many files that have been updated in the last few weeks, and last few  
months. I am curious why you are not including all of this stuff in  
the subversion repo in your trac pages?  I work with svn on a daily  
basis and it would be a simple matter for me to tarball all of the  
current files (for anyone's benefit not just mine) if they were all  
in there.

I am not as adept with CVS, indeed I don't even have an CVS client  
handy.  Any plans to put your project in subversion?  And how  
troublesome would it be for you to tarball the current working set  
for me to use?

Thanks!

On Sep 28, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Michael Reinelt wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
>> Thanks for the response Michael.  As it turns out I think the pharm
>> spam is gone now so you must have found it. At one point there was
>> nothing at all in the trac pages except links I was not interested in
>> following, offering free [insert drug here].  Thanks for cleaning
>> that up.
>
> Ah, yes, I remember. The title page has been spammed yesterday...
>
>> lcd4linux_i2c.h:81: error: array type has incomplete element type
>
> This is a known bug, which is fixed in CVS. I'd recommend you to  
> use the
> CVS version anyway, cause some 635 issues have been solved there IIRC.
>
>> I am still interested in working with someone on putting together a
>> Fedora RPM for lcd4linux, so if anyone wants to collaborate on that
>> please let me know. More shortly.
>
> I'm a debian user, so I can't be of much help here.... but there's a
> SuSE RPM (don't know if Fedora and SuSE RPM's are compatible) Don't  
> know
> if there are some "RPM sources" available in CVS....
>
>
>
> bye, Michael
>
>
> -- 
> Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
> http://home.pages.at/reinelt
> GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
> ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Robert,

> Looking through the CVS repos on sf.net, I see that there are many  
> many files that have been updated in the last few weeks, and last few  
> months. I am curious why you are not including all of this stuff in  
> the subversion repo in your trac pages?  I work with svn on a daily  
> basis and it would be a simple matter for me to tarball all of the  
> current files (for anyone's benefit not just mine) if they were all  
> in there.

We are planning to switch to SVN on trac, but I couldn't find the time
to migrate the repository yet.

> I am not as adept with CVS, indeed I don't even have an CVS client  
> handy.  Any plans to put your project in subversion?  And how  
> troublesome would it be for you to tarball the current working set  
> for me to use?

Well, I don't like the idea of tarballs, because they're out of date as
soon as they are created :-)

Please get yourself a CVS client and use the CVS repo. Basic CVS
handling should be the same as with svn.



bye, Michael

-- 
Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
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GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

Understood on the no time to migrate thing.  It is difficult and time  
consuming to migrate repos I know.  I tried using the command line  
cvs client but kept running into password prompts. sf.net offers anon  
access but I couldn't quite work that out so... For the sake of this  
list and future googlers here is what I did:

rsync -av rsync://lcd4linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/lcd4linux/* .

This worked out much better for me than CVS, and I got all of the  
files in the repo without complaint, except... All files were  
downloaded with ',v' appended to the filenames!  So here is the one- 
liner I used to deal with that:

perl -e 'foreach $old (glob "*,v"){$new = $old, $new =~ s/,v 
$//;rename $old, $new;}'

Getting it to configure is a different story.  I am still working on  
that.  Right now I am getting errors indicating my 'missing script is  
either too old or missing'.

Any ideas what that means?



On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Michael Reinelt wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
>> Looking through the CVS repos on sf.net, I see that there are many
>> many files that have been updated in the last few weeks, and last few
>> months. I am curious why you are not including all of this stuff in
>> the subversion repo in your trac pages?  I work with svn on a daily
>> basis and it would be a simple matter for me to tarball all of the
>> current files (for anyone's benefit not just mine) if they were all
>> in there.
>
> We are planning to switch to SVN on trac, but I couldn't find the time
> to migrate the repository yet.
>
>> I am not as adept with CVS, indeed I don't even have an CVS client
>> handy.  Any plans to put your project in subversion?  And how
>> troublesome would it be for you to tarball the current working set
>> for me to use?
>
> Well, I don't like the idea of tarballs, because they're out of  
> date as
> soon as they are created :-)
>
> Please get yourself a CVS client and use the CVS repo. Basic CVS
> handling should be the same as with svn.
>
>
>
> bye, Michael
>
> -- 
> Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
> http://home.pages.at/reinelt
> GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
> ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Robert,

> I tried using the command line
> cvs client but kept running into password prompts. sf.net offers anon  
> access but I couldn't quite work that out so...

just press <Enter> on the password prompt. I think this should be
documented quite well in the wiki, download section.

> For the sake of this  
> list and future googlers here is what I did:
> 
> rsync -av rsync://lcd4linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/lcd4linux/* .

Well, I don't think this was a good ideas... this way you've been
mirroring the whole CVS repository...

> This worked out much better for me than CVS, and I got all of the  
> files in the repo without complaint, except... All files were  
> downloaded with ',v' appended to the filenames!  So here is the one- 
> liner I used to deal with that:
> 
> perl -e 'foreach $old (glob "*,v"){$new = $old, $new =~ s/,v 
> $//;rename $old, $new;}'

these ',v' files are versioned files from the repository. YOu shall not
try to compile'em!



-- 
Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
http://home.pages.at/reinelt
GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Robert D. <ro...@he...>]

Okay, on your advice I abandoned the rsync approach and just sorted  
out the cvs command.  Here it is:

  cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@lc...:/cvsroot/ 
lcd4linux co -P lcd4linx

I was not prompted for the password.



On Sep 30, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Michael Reinelt wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
>> I tried using the command line
>> cvs client but kept running into password prompts. sf.net offers anon
>> access but I couldn't quite work that out so...
>
> just press <Enter> on the password prompt. I think this should be
> documented quite well in the wiki, download section.
>
>> For the sake of this
>> list and future googlers here is what I did:
>>
>> rsync -av rsync://lcd4linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/lcd4linux/* .
>
> Well, I don't think this was a good ideas... this way you've been
> mirroring the whole CVS repository...
>
>> This worked out much better for me than CVS, and I got all of the
>> files in the repo without complaint, except... All files were
>> downloaded with ',v' appended to the filenames!  So here is the one-
>> liner I used to deal with that:
>>
>> perl -e 'foreach $old (glob "*,v"){$new = $old, $new =~ s/,v
>> $//;rename $old, $new;}'
>
> these ',v' files are versioned files from the repository. YOu shall  
> not
> try to compile'em!
>
>
>
> -- 
> Michael Reinelt <re...@eu...>
> http://home.pages.at/reinelt
> GPG-Key 0xDF13BA50
> ICQ #288386781

Re: [lcd4linux] How to get started with lcd4linux

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Robert,


Robert Denton schrieb:
> Okay, on your advice I abandoned the rsync approach and just sorted  
> out the cvs command.  Here it is:
> 
>   cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@lc...:/cvsroot/ 
> lcd4linux co -P lcd4linx
> 
> I was not prompted for the password.

Right, because the 'co' command will never ask for a passwort, but the
'login' command will.

The documentation on the wiki says:

LCD4Linux's CVS repository can be checked out through anonymous
(pserver) CVS with the following instruction set:

cvs
-d:pserver:ano...@lc...:/cvsroot/lcd4linux login

cvs -z9
-d:pserver:ano...@lc...:/cvsroot/lcd4linux co
lcd4linux

When prompted for a password for anonymous, simply press the Enter key.


So you have to issue the 'login' command first.


HTH, Michael

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