lcd4linux-devel

[Lcd4linux-devel] new website desing ?

[Xavier V. <xav...@fr...>]

Hi Michael, hi list !

First, I decided to cut the thread because it grew too big, and finally
changed of topic.

> > But the better would be that I code a preliminary version, and we
may
> > > decide then. The claim is that I don't have any webspace with mysql. Can
> > > anyone help me for this ? Michael, can I host this test in
> > > http://lcd4linux.sf.net/test ?
> > Of course you can!
> > I hope you won't face any permission problems. If so, let me know.
- I created a test directory, it works ! I uploaded PhpMyAdmin in
test/pma to manage the database then, SF doesn't provide it.

- One of things I would like to do was coding a little GUI to manage
menus, news and others with a Gtk2-perl interface, but the mysql server
doesn't accept external requests :/ You'll have to deal with a
web-based administration interface

- Michael : Please ask for a DB, I tried but I don't have the right,
only project admins can. It's in the admin page, near to web space
requesting.

Bye !
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Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...>

Re: [Lcd4linux-devel] new website desing ?

[Xavier V. <xav...@fr...>]

Hi list !

I'm coding a test for the new website, but I'm really stuck on the
webdesing and style part. In fact, I know I should keep the LCD style
for this site to keep in sync with the soft itself, but I'm not inspired
at all :/

Michael, did you receive the examples I sent you the 02/03 ? Do you like
one ? Do you really want to keep the LCD style ?

IMHO, I don't like to go in a "nerd" way and always prefer simple and
"sober" desing than web pages with 500KB of images for a menu. A friend
told me to really go in LCD style, with an lcd patern in backgroud and
really horrible things, I dislike that.

What do you all think about this issue ? Do you think having a "sober"
website would make lcd4linux loose less attractive ?
Bye !
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Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...>

Re: [Lcd4linux-devel] new website desing ?

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Xavier,

> Michael, did you receive the examples I sent you the 02/03 ? Do you like
> one ? Do you really want to keep the LCD style ?
I had a quick look. I don't like style2, the others look good to me. But 
I'm not a designer...

> IMHO, I don't like to go in a "nerd" way and always prefer simple and
> "sober" desing than web pages with 500KB of images for a menu. A friend
> told me to really go in LCD style, with an lcd patern in backgroud and
> really horrible things, I dislike that.

I think the answer should be somewhere in the middle. I too don't like a 
"nerd" style, but too "sober" would be bad, too.

I'd like to keep some of the LCD style. As for the size, these images 
are quite optimized, the main menu entries on the left side are about 
200 bytes each (bytes, not kB!)

I'm a bit biassed here because the original web layout was made by my 
girlfriend :-)


bye, Michael

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Re: [Lcd4linux-devel] new website desing ?

[Xavier V. <xav...@fr...>]

Hello list !

Here's a tar.bz2 of a static xhtml/css page which is a desing test for
the new website. All the explanations are writen in the page itself.

Mail comments and impressions here please.

Bye !
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Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...>

PS: this has been tested only on gecko-based browsers (mozilla 1.4 and epiphany), but it should
work with konqueror and others too.

Re: [Lcd4linux-devel] new website desing ?

[Michael R. <re...@eu...>]

Hi Xavier,

> Here's a tar.bz2 of a static xhtml/css page which is a desing test for
> the new website. All the explanations are writen in the page itself.

For the future, it would be better to put that stuff into a 'test' 
subdir of sourceforge? Would be much easier to test...

Now for my comments:

- I don't like the background
- the overlapping frames look like an rendering error to me :-(
- If we don't go for the old "LCD"-style menu images, I'm not shure if 
this very green background is good...

bye, Michael

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Geisslergasse 4                                   Fax: +43 316  692343
A-8045 Graz, Austria                          e-mail: re...@eu...

Re: [Lcd4linux-devel] new website desing ?

[Xavier V. <xav...@fr...>]

Hi Michael, hi all !

> For the future, it would be better to put that stuff into a 'test' 
> subdir of sourceforge? Would be much easier to test...
The problem is that I can't use scp with a gsm    connection (think
  ssh :/ ). If you prefer, I can send you the tgz so you put them on  
 the server

> Now for my comments:
> - I don't like the background
I know, I don't like it too :/ I'll redesing a lot of the CSS soon.

> - the overlapping frames look like an rendering error to me :-(
Err... this is a feature. This is one thing I really like with CSS.
Everything is calculated with pixel size and so on. IMHO I prefer a menu
overlapping just a little the main div than separating them, it's more
'cosmetical'.

> - If we don't go for the old "LCD"-style menu images, I'm not shure if 
> this very green background is good...
In fact, I was thinking about using LCD-style text for the menus. There
 are three solutions :
- generate the images once, but we'll have problems with dynamic menus
(doc, ...)
- write the images in the server, with a PHP script, it's something very
doable, but maybe it would be slow.
- create one image for each 'character'

We can merge two types (eg: static images for top menu, then character
images for dynamic ones).

Bye !
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Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...>