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From: Michael R. <re...@eu...> - 2004-02-23 06:46:36
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Hi Xavier, Hi Sam and Luk, Hi List, again, please use the list for such discussions! Xavier VELLO wrote: > lcd4linux 0.9.12 will be released soon, when Michael will have finished > namespace rewrite. Huh? How did you know... I thinks it will take some time until NextGeneration is ready for release. There are some Todo's which are not finished by now (Xavier, you had this great planning sheet, is it up to date?) Furter, I'm afraid the current code will contain very lots of bugs. Especially the Evaluator does lots of dynamic allocations, I'm really shure there are tons of memory leaks. I already added a "--with-dmalloc" option, we should do lots of debugging and testing here... I think we should release something like a "pre" or "beta" or whatever you want to call it. What do you think? In the meantime we could take care of another point: Update all the documentation on SourceForge. This will be lots of work....But I don't want to "officially" release lcd4linux without proper documentation. bye, Michael -- Michael Reinelt Tel: +43 676 3079941 Geisslergasse 4 Fax: +43 316 692343 A-8045 Graz, Austria e-mail: re...@eu... |
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From: Xavier V. <xav...@fr...> - 2004-02-26 16:32:06
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Hello Luk, hello all ! > > - postinst script crashes. I think it'd be better to remove the dialog I > > put, it's not worth the price. > Yes, we should avoid user interaction at the install stage if possible. > We should however document the configuration file (README?, pointer in > manpage?). I think too we should remove the dialog. > > - there is still a permission problem with /etc/lcd4linux.conf. It must > > be owned by root.root and be 0600, we must modify debian/rules for this. > Shouldn't be hard to take care of. Yes, a chmod in debian/rules would be enough. > > - who will be the maintainer ? I definitively can't as I'll go in a > > boarding school, with certainly no regular net access. > If we find nobody to maintain the package we can start by a 'Request To > Package' (see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp). Okay. Can't you be the maintainer ? I'll try to ask other friends from debian "french connection" it someone would like to maintain it. Then, we'll send a request. -- Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...> |
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From: Xavier V. <xav...@fr...> - 2004-02-23 18:41:47
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Hi Michael, Luk, Sam and others ! > again, please use the list for such discussions! Luk, Sam, are you really reading the ML ? > > lcd4linux 0.9.12 will be released soon, when Michael will have finished > > namespace rewrite. > Huh? How did you know... I quote you : > Here's my plan: prepare the parser, rewrite all plugins so that ne > namespace is used, but DO NOT IMPLEMENT DYNAMIC LOADING! > Why? I want to release 0.9.12 as soon as possible... I thinked 0.9.12 would be released soon. Moreover, there are big problems to solve for debian, so I prefer beginning this talk now. > I thinks it will take some time until NextGeneration is ready for > release. There are some Todo's which are not finished by now (Xavier, > you had this great planning sheet, is it up to date?) Err... I dropped it to write one in plain text, but it's not up to date (in fact, there are just displays). Do you want me to actualize it ? > I think we should release something like a "pre" or "beta" or whatever > you want to call it. What do you think? maybe lcd4linux-0.9.12-RC1, then lcd4linux-0.9.12.RC2, ... BTW: it's a total rewrite of lcd4linux, I don't think a minor version reflects it ! Maybe 0.10.0 ? I don't vote for 1.0.0, as there are still bugs and ToDo. > In the meantime we could take care of another point: Update all the > documentation on SourceForge. This will be lots of work....But I don't > want to "officially" release lcd4linux without proper documentation. See my post "Re: [Lcd4linux-devel] manpage for lcd4linux" about docbook. Bye ! -- Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...> |
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From: Xavier V. <xav...@fr...> - 2004-02-23 18:42:03
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Hi all ! Now, let's talk about what to do for debian, he're the claim : A lot of lcd4linux plugins (and soon drivers) do (or will) rely on external libraries, system calls, ... how to handle it ? - make one big lcd4linx package which depends on libx11, libncurses, ... and don't please to embedded systems. - make separate package for each plugin and driver, but I talked to debian devs and they won't accept 50 different packages for one program. - put libx11, libncurses and others in "suggested" or "recommended", but this isn't clean. What about it ? Bye ! -- Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...> |
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From: <Mar...@t-...> - 2004-02-23 19:13:11
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Am 23.02.2004 19:32:03 schrieb(en) Xavier VELLO: > Hi all ! > > Now, let's talk about what to do for debian, he're the claim : > A lot of lcd4linux plugins (and soon drivers) do (or will) rely on > external libraries, system calls, ... how to handle it ? > > - make one big lcd4linx package which depends on libx11, libncurses, > ... > and don't please to embedded systems. > - make separate package for each plugin and driver, but I talked to > debian devs and they won't accept 50 different packages for one > program. > - put libx11, libncurses and others in "suggested" or "recommended", > but > this isn't clean. > > What about it ? > > Bye ! > -- > Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...> > Hi Xavier! I am also a Debian user. I think it's a good idea to put similar Plugins together. e.g. all plugins who connects to the Internet, or all Multimedia-Plugins like XMMS in one Package. Markus |
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From: Michael R. <re...@eu...> - 2004-02-23 19:49:19
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Hi Xavier, > Now, let's talk about what to do for debian, he're the claim : > A lot of lcd4linux plugins (and soon drivers) do (or will) rely on > external libraries, system calls, ... how to handle it ? Good question! An another point that votes for dynamic loading! > - make one big lcd4linx package which depends on libx11, libncurses, ... > and don't please to embedded systems. Not so good. > - make separate package for each plugin and driver, but I talked to > debian devs and they won't accept 50 different packages for one program. Hmm... who writes the 44 plugins left? :-) > - put libx11, libncurses and others in "suggested" or "recommended", but > this isn't clean. No, it isn't. Definitely not. You should ask debian guys again, how they prefer things handled in such a case. Luk, are you listening? Your opinion? -- Michael Reinelt Tel: +43 676 3079941 Geisslergasse 4 Fax: +43 316 692343 A-8045 Graz, Austria e-mail: re...@eu... |
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From: Michael R. <re...@eu...> - 2004-02-23 19:35:52
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Hi Xavier, > I quote you : > >>Here's my plan: prepare the parser, rewrite all plugins so that ne >>namespace is used, but DO NOT IMPLEMENT DYNAMIC LOADING! >>Why? I want to release 0.9.12 as soon as possible... > > I thinked 0.9.12 would be released soon. Moreover, there are big > problems to solve for debian, so I prefer beginning this talk now. I want to release it as soon as possible, and implement the dynamic loading stuff later. But 'as soon as possible' does not mean 'soon', but 'when all problems are solved' >>(Xavier, >>you had this great planning sheet, is it up to date?) > > Err... I dropped it to write one in plain text, but it's not up to date > (in fact, there are just displays). Do you want me to actualize it ? Yes, that would be great. As my real-life job takes a lot of time at the moment, I can never remember what I've been working on yesterday :-) >>I think we should release something like a "pre" or "beta" or whatever >>you want to call it. What do you think? > > maybe lcd4linux-0.9.12-RC1, then lcd4linux-0.9.12.RC2, ... good ideas. > BTW: it's a total rewrite of lcd4linux, I don't think a minor version > reflects it ! Maybe 0.10.0 ? I don't vote for 1.0.0, as there are still > bugs and ToDo. Even better idea. So NextGeneration will be 0.10.0 bye, Michael -- Michael Reinelt Tel: +43 676 3079941 Geisslergasse 4 Fax: +43 316 692343 A-8045 Graz, Austria e-mail: re...@eu... |
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From: Xavier V. <xav...@fr...> - 2004-02-23 22:00:01
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Hello list. > >>(Xavier, > >>you had this great planning sheet, is it up to date?) > > > > Err... I dropped it to write one in plain text, but it's not up to date > > (in fact, there are just displays). Do you want me to actualize it ? > > Yes, that would be great. As my real-life job takes a lot of time at the > moment, I can never remember what I've been working on yesterday :-) It's in a separate post. > >>I think we should release something like a "pre" or "beta" or whatever > >>you want to call it. What do you think? > > > > maybe lcd4linux-0.9.12-RC1, then lcd4linux-0.9.12.RC2, ... > good ideas. Thanks. > > BTW: it's a total rewrite of lcd4linux, I don't think a minor version > > reflects it ! Maybe 0.10.0 ? I don't vote for 1.0.0, as there are still > > bugs and ToDo. > Even better idea. So NextGeneration will be 0.10.0 I won \o/ :D Bye ;) -- Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...> |
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From: Xavier V. <xav...@fr...> - 2004-02-23 21:43:45
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> I thinks it will take some time until NextGeneration is ready for
> release. There are some Todo's which are not finished by now (Xavier,
> you had this great planning sheet, is it up to date?)
Here is the plain text one, mostly up to date.
In fact I didn't check if new features were added to displays (CZ, MO,
...), so read it and correct it before putting it on CVS.
BTW: here's the ToDo section, so everyone can discuss it :
TODO : task {assigned to}
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* namespace support for plugins (with ::) {Michael}
- support visible attribute for widgets other than icons
- time-based bars for graphic displays
- dynamic loading of plugins/displays/input
>> after next release it seems ?
- add support for input (display keypads, gamepads, socket, ...)
>> gamepad and socket were suggested to me by french debian stuff ;)
* finish debian package {Xavier, Luk, Samuel}
>> see another thread on the ML
Bye !
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Xavier VELLO <xav...@fr...>
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