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Re: [Latex-access-devel] question about preprocessor when having unicode string as input

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Hi

Make sure you are using the latest version, reload jaws and 
re-initialise the object.  If it still doesn't work I'll have another 
look at it, but your example definitly worked for me.

Alastair




On 22/09/2014 13:27, Velegi István wrote:
> Hi Alastair,
>
> I tried the preprocessor with the updated latex_acess_com.py but the
> problem is still the same. I know about the custom speech table option
> but for me it is more difficult to set the table each time than loading
> a preprocessor file. I don't mind the braille output change.
>
> Greetings,
> Istvan
>
> 2014/09/22 1:58 keltezéssel, Alastair Irving írta:
>> Hi
>>
>> I've just made a commit to SVN which hopefully fixes this.  Hopefully it
>> hasn't broken anything else.
>>
>> Please note that your example is a bad use of the preprocessor because
>> the translation would also be shown in braille.  It would be better to
>> use a custom speech table, (I can tell you how to set one up if you
>> don't know).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21/09/2014 17:40, Velegi István wrote:
>>> Dear developers,
>>>
>>> I ran into a problem when I wanted to add a newcommand definition to the
>>> preprocessor containing special hungarian characters which can be found
>>> in the unicode utf-8 table.
>>> If I add a redefinition of a command, the preprocessor doesn't append it
>>> to its own dictionary I suppose because of the special characters.
>>> For example when I would like to redefine the \vert command to be read
>>> as "feltétel" through the Jaws script, it seems that my new entry is not
>>> recorded.
>>>
>>> If it helps for you, the appropriate html code of a special hungarian
>>> character is "é" which I used in my example above.
>>>
>>> What can be the problem? I tried to cast the variable called
>>> "translation_string" in the preprocessor.py file to utf-8 like this.
>>> trs=translation_string.decode("utf-8")
>>> But it didn't help.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Istvan
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] question about preprocessor when having unicode string as input

[Velegi I. <iv...@gm...>]

Hi Alastair,

I tried the preprocessor with the updated latex_acess_com.py but the 
problem is still the same. I know about the custom speech table option 
but for me it is more difficult to set the table each time than loading 
a preprocessor file. I don't mind the braille output change.

Greetings,
Istvan

2014/09/22 1:58 keltezéssel, Alastair Irving írta:
> Hi
>
> I've just made a commit to SVN which hopefully fixes this.  Hopefully it
> hasn't broken anything else.
>
> Please note that your example is a bad use of the preprocessor because
> the translation would also be shown in braille.  It would be better to
> use a custom speech table, (I can tell you how to set one up if you
> don't know).
>
>
>
>
> Alastair
>
>
>
> On 21/09/2014 17:40, Velegi István wrote:
>> Dear developers,
>>
>> I ran into a problem when I wanted to add a newcommand definition to the
>> preprocessor containing special hungarian characters which can be found
>> in the unicode utf-8 table.
>> If I add a redefinition of a command, the preprocessor doesn't append it
>> to its own dictionary I suppose because of the special characters.
>> For example when I would like to redefine the \vert command to be read
>> as "feltétel" through the Jaws script, it seems that my new entry is not
>> recorded.
>>
>> If it helps for you, the appropriate html code of a special hungarian
>> character is "é" which I used in my example above.
>>
>> What can be the problem? I tried to cast the variable called
>> "translation_string" in the preprocessor.py file to utf-8 like this.
>> trs=translation_string.decode("utf-8")
>> But it didn't help.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Istvan
>>
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] question about preprocessor when having unicode string as input

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Hi

I've just made a commit to SVN which hopefully fixes this.  Hopefully it 
hasn't broken anything else.

Please note that your example is a bad use of the preprocessor because 
the translation would also be shown in braille.  It would be better to 
use a custom speech table, (I can tell you how to set one up if you 
don't know).




Alastair



On 21/09/2014 17:40, Velegi István wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> I ran into a problem when I wanted to add a newcommand definition to the
> preprocessor containing special hungarian characters which can be found
> in the unicode utf-8 table.
> If I add a redefinition of a command, the preprocessor doesn't append it
> to its own dictionary I suppose because of the special characters.
> For example when I would like to redefine the \vert command to be read
> as "feltétel" through the Jaws script, it seems that my new entry is not
> recorded.
>
> If it helps for you, the appropriate html code of a special hungarian
> character is "é" which I used in my example above.
>
> What can be the problem? I tried to cast the variable called
> "translation_string" in the preprocessor.py file to utf-8 like this.
> trs=translation_string.decode("utf-8")
> But it didn't help.
>
> Greetings,
> Istvan
>
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[Latex-access-devel] SF.net SVN: latex-access:[480] latex_access/latex_access_com.py

[<ala...@us...>]

Revision: 480
          http://sourceforge.net/p/latex-access/code/480
Author:   alastair-irving
Date:     2014-09-21 23:53:59 +0000 (Sun, 21 Sep 2014)
Log Message:
-----------
Removed a conversion to string from the preprocessor_add in latex_access_com.py

This means unicode strings can now be added to the preprocessor from Jaws.  Hopefully there wasn't a reason for the conversion to be there!

Modified Paths:
--------------
    latex_access/latex_access_com.py

Modified: latex_access/latex_access_com.py
===================================================================
--- latex_access/latex_access_com.py	2014-08-18 16:36:39 UTC (rev 479)
+++ latex_access/latex_access_com.py	2014-09-21 23:53:59 UTC (rev 480)
@@ -57,7 +57,7 @@
     def preprocessor_add(self,command,args,translation_string):
         '''A function to add entries to the preprocessor'''
 
-        self.preprocessor.add_from_string(str(command),args,str(translation_string))
+        self.preprocessor.add_from_string(command,args,translation_string)
 
     def preprocessor_from_string(self,input):
         '''Adds preprocessor entries from a LaTeX string containing \newcommand.'''

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[Latex-access-devel] question about preprocessor when having unicode string as input

[Velegi I. <iv...@gm...>]

Dear developers,

I ran into a problem when I wanted to add a newcommand definition to the 
preprocessor containing special hungarian characters which can be found 
in the unicode utf-8 table.
If I add a redefinition of a command, the preprocessor doesn't append it 
to its own dictionary I suppose because of the special characters.
For example when I would like to redefine the \vert command to be read 
as "feltétel" through the Jaws script, it seems that my new entry is not 
recorded.

If it helps for you, the appropriate html code of a special hungarian 
character is "é" which I used in my example above.

What can be the problem? I tried to cast the variable called 
"translation_string" in the preprocessor.py file to utf-8 like this.
trs=translation_string.decode("utf-8")
But it didn't help.

Greetings,
Istvan

Re: [Latex-access-devel] jaws scripts breaks things in word 2010

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Hi

The problem is that when installing latex-access for a given application 
any existing jaws scripts for it might be ignored.  As dan said, it 
would be better to use a text editor, unless you have a very good reason 
for using Word.

Alastair



On 06/09/2014 03:02, Victorious wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I’ve just discovered this project, and having to do math on the
> computer, this has made the experience much more pleasant. However, it
> breaks things when I install the jaws scripts and attempt to use them in
> Microsoft word 2010.
>
> When I press jaws key + v to go into quick settings, I get many error
> messages:
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> getSchemeInfo
>
> getSchemeInfo
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> getExtraHelpIndicationInfo
>
> getExtraHelpIndicationInfo
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> getHeadingsDetectionInfo
>
> getHeadingsDetectionInfo
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> GetDesiredUnitsOfMeasureInfo
>
> GetDesiredUnitsOfMeasureInfo
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> GetShadingDetectionInfo
>
> GetShadingDetectionInfo
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> getStyleDetectionInfo
>
> getStyleDetectionInfo
>
> unknown function call to:
>
> getSpellingErrorDetectionInfo
>
> getSpellingErrorDetectionInfo
>
> And so on...
>
> After that whole list of errors, this box comes up:
>
> QuickSettings Validation Error word
>
> Error parsing settings
>
> OK
>
> The other thing that I noticed is that jaws will no longer give any
> indication of what page or section number of a document you’re on when
> this is installed.
>
> I suspect that doing word=latex in the config names.ini broke some
> word-specific scripts. Any help in making the scripts work properly in
> word would be much appreciated.
>
> Best regards
>
> Victorious
>
>
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] jaws scripts breaks things in word 2010

[Daniel D. <dan...@gm...>]

On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 03:02:19PM +0800, Victorious wrote:
>    when I install the jaws scripts and attempt to use them in Microsoft word
>    2010.

Can't help with the problem, but you probably don't want to be using
them in ms word. Try a text editor. Unless you have some funky latex
input system for Ms word and its rendered in raw latex, but I doubt
it. We all use text editors here to write our latex - notepad would work
or something more advanced like emacs is even better. 

Daniel 

[Latex-access-devel] jaws scripts breaks things in word 2010

[Victorious <dtv...@gm...>]

Hi All

 

I've just discovered this project, and having to do math on the computer,
this has made the experience much more pleasant. However, it breaks things
when I install the jaws scripts and attempt to use them in Microsoft word
2010.

 

When I press jaws key + v to go into quick settings, I get many error
messages:

 

unknown function call to:

getSchemeInfo

getSchemeInfo

unknown function call to:

getExtraHelpIndicationInfo

getExtraHelpIndicationInfo

unknown function call to:

getHeadingsDetectionInfo

getHeadingsDetectionInfo

unknown function call to:

GetDesiredUnitsOfMeasureInfo

GetDesiredUnitsOfMeasureInfo

unknown function call to:

GetShadingDetectionInfo

GetShadingDetectionInfo

unknown function call to:

getStyleDetectionInfo

getStyleDetectionInfo

unknown function call to:

getSpellingErrorDetectionInfo

getSpellingErrorDetectionInfo

 

And so on...

 

After that whole list of errors, this box comes up:

 

QuickSettings Validation Error word

Error parsing settings

OK

 

The other thing that I noticed is that jaws will no longer give any
indication of what page or section number of a document you're on when this
is installed.

 

I suspect that doing word=latex in the config names.ini broke some
word-specific scripts. Any help in making the scripts work properly in word
would be much appreciated.

 

Best regards

Victorious

Re: [Latex-access-devel] Latex_record

[Daniel D. <dan...@gm...>]

Thanks for fixing that up  mate
Yes at present its only realy a prototype

To be honest its not something I plan to work on at the moment   happy to
help out what I can though_//,.

Its great to see interest in this.

Thanks,
Daniel
On Aug 19, 2014 2:49 AM, "Alastair Irving" <ala...@sj...>
wrote:

> Hi All
>
> There have been a couple of questions recently about latex_record on
> windows.  I tested it earlier and discovered that it didn't work.  This
> is hopefully now fixed.  To use it you need Espeak to be installed and
> the location of espeak.exe must be in your path.
>
> Currently its extremely basic and can really only be considered a proof
> of concept rather than something actually useful.  If sufficiently many
> people want to use it seriously then I will have to consider improving it.
>
>
>
> Alastair
>
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[Latex-access-devel] Latex_record

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Hi All

There have been a couple of questions recently about latex_record on 
windows.  I tested it earlier and discovered that it didn't work.  This 
is hopefully now fixed.  To use it you need Espeak to be installed and 
the location of espeak.exe must be in your path.

Currently its extremely basic and can really only be considered a proof 
of concept rather than something actually useful.  If sufficiently many 
people want to use it seriously then I will have to consider improving it.



Alastair

[Latex-access-devel] SF.net SVN: latex-access:[479] latex_record.py

[<ala...@us...>]

Revision: 479
          http://sourceforge.net/p/latex-access/code/479
Author:   alastair-irving
Date:     2014-08-18 16:36:39 +0000 (Mon, 18 Aug 2014)
Log Message:
-----------
In latex_record use subprocess.call rather than os.system as this should be much better.

Modified Paths:
--------------
    latex_record.py

Modified: latex_record.py
===================================================================
--- latex_record.py	2014-08-18 16:12:55 UTC (rev 478)
+++ latex_record.py	2014-08-18 16:36:39 UTC (rev 479)
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
 import os
 import sys
 import wave
+import subprocess
 
 if len (sys.argv) < 2:
   print "Usage: %s <path-to-latex-document.text>" % (sys.argv[0])
@@ -73,9 +74,8 @@
   startRecording = True
   if line == '' or line.isspace ():
     continue # ignore blank lines which produce no audio 
-  os.system("espeak -w temp%s -s 225 '%s'" % (str(count),s.translate(line)))
+  subprocess.call(["espeak","-w", "temp%s" % str(count), "-s","225", s.translate(line)])
   count+=1
-  os.system ("espeak -s 500 -p 95 'newline' -w temp%s" % str(count))
-  count+=1  
 
+
 compileFiles (count)

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Re: [Latex-access-devel] SF.net SVN: latex-access:[478] latex_record.py

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Please note the below commit hasn't actually fixed everything, I'm still 
looking at it.

Alastair


On 18/08/2014 17:12, ala...@us... wrote:
> Revision: 478
>            http://sourceforge.net/p/latex-access/code/478
> Author:   alastair-irving
> Date:     2014-08-18 16:12:55 +0000 (Mon, 18 Aug 2014)
> Log Message:
> -----------
> Some changes to latex_record to hopefully make it work on Windows.
>
> Modified Paths:
> --------------
>      latex_record.py
>
> Modified: latex_record.py
> ===================================================================
> --- latex_record.py	2014-05-03 20:16:15 UTC (rev 477)
> +++ latex_record.py	2014-08-18 16:12:55 UTC (rev 478)
> @@ -73,9 +73,9 @@
>     startRecording = True
>     if line == '' or line.isspace ():
>       continue # ignore blank lines which produce no audio
> -  os.system('espeak -s 225 "'+s.translate(line.replace("$","\\$"))+'" -w temp'+str(count))
> +  os.system("espeak -w temp%s -s 225 '%s'" % (str(count),s.translate(line)))
>     count+=1
> -  os.system ('espeak -s 500 -p 95 "newline" -w temp'+str(count))
> +  os.system ("espeak -s 500 -p 95 'newline' -w temp%s" % str(count))
>     count+=1
>
>   compileFiles (count)
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[Latex-access-devel] SF.net SVN: latex-access:[478] latex_record.py

[<ala...@us...>]

Revision: 478
          http://sourceforge.net/p/latex-access/code/478
Author:   alastair-irving
Date:     2014-08-18 16:12:55 +0000 (Mon, 18 Aug 2014)
Log Message:
-----------
Some changes to latex_record to hopefully make it work on Windows.

Modified Paths:
--------------
    latex_record.py

Modified: latex_record.py
===================================================================
--- latex_record.py	2014-05-03 20:16:15 UTC (rev 477)
+++ latex_record.py	2014-08-18 16:12:55 UTC (rev 478)
@@ -73,9 +73,9 @@
   startRecording = True
   if line == '' or line.isspace ():
     continue # ignore blank lines which produce no audio 
-  os.system('espeak -s 225 "'+s.translate(line.replace("$","\\$"))+'" -w temp'+str(count))
+  os.system("espeak -w temp%s -s 225 '%s'" % (str(count),s.translate(line)))
   count+=1
-  os.system ('espeak -s 500 -p 95 "newline" -w temp'+str(count))
+  os.system ("espeak -s 500 -p 95 'newline' -w temp%s" % str(count))
   count+=1  
 
 compileFiles (count)

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[Latex-access-devel] latex_record

[Devanshu A. <agr...@go...>]

Hi,

I am interested in using latex_record.py. I use JAWS on a Windows machine.
I understand that I need to install eSpeak on my computer, is this right?
What else do I need to do before I use latex_record.py?

Devanshu

Re: [Latex-access-devel] Implementation of hungarian developments into the english version

[Daniel D. <dan...@gm...>]

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:28:11AM +0200, Dániel Hajas wrote:
> 1. The project should be able to satisfy users using a great range of
> editors both advanced and beginner such as, from notepad to a version of
> EMacs or other.

Jaws, nvda and brltty should not be impacted on what editor you choose
to use. Emacspeak is a different case of course. 

So I don't think this is a problem?

> 2. Should satisfy all supported screen readers and braille systems, not only
> a preferred one.

It will work with whatever screenreaders it has been implemented for. If
someone has the time and inclination to implement for another
screenreader that would be great!

> 3. The current choice of functions were made based on checking what are the
> available functions in advanced editor. Obviously there is no point of
> dealing with functions such as, inserting code blocks for lists, arrays,
> tables, images etc, since most editors offer a template code for that. The
> recent development tries to focus on 'missing' but often occuring sintags
> e.g. scientific notation (powers of ten) or manipulation of vector calculus.

Emacs can do all of that. 

Better to extend the editor though than latex-access.. Just my
thoughts. 

> 
> As it is a fairly new idea, just for experimental reasons it was first coded
> as a JAWS script for simplicity but as you said worth finding a general
> solution. Ways of accessing functions e.g. list, text entry, or intelitype
> are also considered.

Can't think of a general way to do that off the top of my head, an
editor by editor basis makes sense to me though. 

Keep up the good work. 

Cheers, 
Daniel 

Re: [Latex-access-devel] Implementation of hungarian developments into the english version

[Velegi I. <iv...@gm...>]

> Hi all,
>
> Maybe you remember me, I am the developer of the Hungarian version 
> what Daniel wrote about.
> Before I'd upload anything to the official repo, I'd like to ask 
> something:
> As Dan studies in England, we planned to translate all of our 
> development into English. Can we upload speech.py and speech.table 
> along with the hungarian version if we are ready? We left speech.py 
> and speech.table in English respectively, and added "hungarian" 
> notation to our language-specific files like "hungarian_speech.table".
>
> One more important thing:
> In our Jaws script, we made a laTeX environment generally which must 
> be loaded with a keystroke before the user is able to toggle maths, 
> and run other laTeX commands in Jaws. It is done because we plan to 
> integrate the laTeX functionality in Jaws generally so it would be 
> possible to use this environment in browsers as well.
> What's your opinion about this method? We have a ready English version 
> of this script package yet so if you accept it as a new version we can 
> upload this too.
>
> Greetings,
> Istvan
>
>
>
>
> 2014.07.31. 14:29 keltezéssel, Alastair Irving írta:
>> Hi
>>
>> This sounds like very good work so I'll be happy to include it in the
>> project. Have I already given you SVN access? If not then please tell
>> me your sourceforge username and I'll add you. I agree with Dan about
>> 5, I think such things are very useful but they're better as part of an
>> editor. The Auctex package for Emacs already has functions like the
>> ones you describe.
>>
>> The article is included in
>> http://www.mathcentre.ac.uk/resources/uploaded/inclusivecurricula.pdf
>> its called
>> On the accessibility of mathematics to visually impaired students in
>> higher education
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/07/2014 10:34, Dániel Hajas wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Ont he first place, I would like to say a word or two toward the
>>> developers of the project:
>>>
>>> Just as a heads up, the hungarian developer team, beyond translating 
>>> the
>>> project’s great percentage into their own language, many further
>>> developments were made. These add-ons were created mainly in the
>>> hungarian subversion at the beginning; however, as the number of new
>>> features reached a certain point the team has started to translate new
>>> functionalities into english, enbed it into the appropriate english
>>> files and is testing them recently. Some of the new features are for
>>> example:
>>>
>>> 1.not only square roots are translated but any n-th roots can be
>>> interpreted by the project using the optional argument of the \sqrt 
>>> command.
>>>
>>> 2. vector notation (\vec{}) is translated now
>>>
>>> 3.various integral signs are interpreted verbally such as, \oint for
>>> loop integral, double and triple integrals.
>>>
>>> 4.summation notation is translated correctly.
>>>
>>> 5.A number of JAWS scripts/functions were written and added to the 
>>> Latex
>>> JAWS script files, which make the typing of mathematical and other
>>> scientific documents quicker and easier to use/familiarise for new
>>> users. The script allows selection of functions from a list or 
>>> offers an
>>> input boksz for fast access of functions.
>>>
>>> 6.if variables such as x and y are written without space, now JAWS is
>>> able to read it as x y instead of xy, similarly to dx and dy.
>>>
>>> 7.if an integral has only one argument that is the subscript, it is 
>>> read
>>> as a subscript correctly and does not interpret it as a lower limit
>>>
>>> The hungarian translations coming from older english versions include
>>> for instance, the translation of the help file, the JAWS scripts,
>>> creating reading schemes for the hungarian tts engine and few other
>>> modifications. Also the JAWS folder of the project is split into two
>>> subfolders ’ENU’ and ’Hun’ respectively.
>>>
>>> These are just a few of the developments done and also couple of others
>>> should be done during the rest of the summer, time permitting.
>>>
>>> Our question/request is, wether you can check all these 
>>> modifications in
>>> the project and enbed them in the official version of the project 
>>> hosted
>>> ont he parent svn server, so anyone can have access to these new
>>> features. We would like to commit all the developments near the end of
>>> summer.
>>>
>>> Secondly to Alastair:
>>>
>>> Did you perhaps have the chance to look up the article written by you
>>> and Robin? I would be happy to be able to read it.
>>>
>>> Bests,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] Implementation of hungarian developments into the english version

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Hi

This sounds like very good work so I'll be happy to include it in the 
project.  Have I already given you SVN access?  If not then please tell 
me your sourceforge username and I'll add you.  I agree with Dan about 
5, I think such things are very useful but they're better as part of an 
editor.  The Auctex package for Emacs already has functions like the 
ones you describe.

The article is included in
http://www.mathcentre.ac.uk/resources/uploaded/inclusivecurricula.pdf
its called
On the accessibility of mathematics to visually impaired students in 
higher education

Best wishes

Alastair



On 30/07/2014 10:34, Dániel Hajas wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Ont he first place, I would like to say a word or two toward the
> developers of the project:
>
> Just as a heads up, the hungarian developer team, beyond translating the
> project’s great percentage into their own language, many further
> developments were made. These add-ons were created mainly in the
> hungarian subversion at the beginning; however, as the number of new
> features reached a certain point the team has started to translate new
> functionalities into english, enbed it into the appropriate english
> files and is testing them recently. Some of the new features are for
> example:
>
> 1.not only square roots are translated but any n-th roots can be
> interpreted by the project using the optional argument of the \sqrt command.
>
> 2. vector notation (\vec{}) is translated now
>
> 3.various integral signs are interpreted verbally such as, \oint for
> loop integral, double and triple integrals.
>
> 4.summation notation is translated correctly.
>
> 5.A number of JAWS scripts/functions were written and added to the Latex
> JAWS script files, which make the typing of mathematical and other
> scientific documents quicker and easier to use/familiarise for new
> users. The script allows selection of functions from a list or offers an
> input boksz for fast access of functions.
>
> 6.if variables such as x and y are written without space, now JAWS is
> able to read it  as x y instead of xy, similarly to dx and dy.
>
> 7.if an integral has only one argument that is the subscript, it is read
> as a subscript correctly and does not interpret it as a lower limit
>
> The hungarian translations coming from older english versions include
> for instance, the translation of the help file, the JAWS scripts,
> creating reading schemes for the hungarian tts engine and few other
> modifications. Also the JAWS folder of the project is split into two
> subfolders ’ENU’ and ’Hun’ respectively.
>
> These are just a few of the developments done and also couple of others
> should be done during the rest of the summer, time permitting.
>
> Our question/request is, wether you can check all these modifications in
> the project and enbed them in the official version of the project hosted
> ont he parent svn server, so anyone can have access to these new
> features. We would like to commit all the developments near the end of
> summer.
>
> Secondly to Alastair:
>
> Did you perhaps have the chance to look up the article written by you
> and Robin? I would be happy to be able to read it.
>
> Bests,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] Implementation of hungarian developments into the english version

[Daniel D. <dan...@gm...>]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:34:32AM +0200, Dániel Hajas wrote:
>    5.       A number of JAWS scripts/functions were written and added to
>    the Latex JAWS script files, which make the typing of mathematical and
>    other scientific documents quicker and easier to use/familiarise for
>    new users. The script allows selection of functions from a list or
>    offers an input boksz for fast access of functions.

These are all good features. I would argue that this one (5) should not
be a jaws script feature though. Rather it is useful for everyone not
just screenreader users, and should be implemented inside the editor. 

A lot of good editors already have this functionality eg. auctex emacs,
and latex-math-mode emacs. They have autocomplete and insert functions
as well as syntax checking etc. 

Just something to think about.

[Latex-access-devel] Implementation of hungarian developments into the english version

[Dániel H. <haj...@fr...>]

Hi All,

 

Ont he first place, I would like to say a word or two toward the developers
of the project:

Just as a heads up, the hungarian developer team, beyond translating the
project's great percentage into their own language, many further
developments were made. These add-ons were created mainly in the hungarian
subversion at the beginning; however, as the number of new features reached
a certain point the team has started to translate new functionalities into
english, enbed it into the appropriate english files and is testing them
recently. Some of the new features are for example:

1.       not only square roots are translated but any n-th roots can be
interpreted by the project using the optional argument of the \sqrt command.

2.        vector notation (\vec{}) is translated now

3.       various integral signs are interpreted verbally such as, \oint for
loop integral, double and triple integrals.

4.       summation notation is translated correctly.

5.       A number of JAWS scripts/functions were written and added to the
Latex JAWS script files, which make the typing of mathematical and other
scientific documents quicker and easier to use/familiarise for new users.
The script allows selection of functions from a list or offers an input
boksz for fast access of functions.

6.       if variables such as x and y are written without space, now JAWS is
able to read it  as x y instead of xy, similarly to dx and dy.

7.       if an integral has only one argument that is the subscript, it is
read as a subscript correctly and does not interpret it as a lower limit

 

The hungarian translations coming from older english versions include for
instance, the translation of the help file, the JAWS scripts, creating
reading schemes for the hungarian tts engine and few other modifications.
Also the JAWS folder of the project is split into two subfolders 'ENU' and
'Hun' respectively.

 

These are just a few of the developments done and also couple of others
should be done during the rest of the summer, time permitting.

 

Our question/request is, wether you can check all these modifications in the
project and enbed them in the official version of the project hosted ont he
parent svn server, so anyone can have access to these new features. We would
like to commit all the developments near the end of summer.

 

Secondly to Alastair:

Did you perhaps have the chance to look up the article written by you and
Robin? I would be happy to be able to read it.

 

Bests,

Dan

Re: [Latex-access-devel] latex access help

[Dániel H. <haj...@fr...>]

Glad the project makes you happy! Feel free to ask.
Don't think you can change the rate of reading between text and math mode. This is something JAWS controls regardless of the context.

Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Devanshu Agrawal [mailto:agr...@go...] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:21 PM
To: Hajas Dániel
Cc: Alastair Irving; lat...@li...
Subject: Re: [Latex-access-devel] latex access help

Hi,

I restarted JAWS, and I performed the keystroke ctrl + shift + alt + r.

And it worked! It's reading the math verbally! This is really exciting!

Thank you so much! I am very happy!

I will keep in touch. Later on, I might have other questions (e.g., can you adjust the rate at which JAWS reads the math without affecting the rate at which normal text is read?) I'll contact you guys whenever I need help.

Again, thank you!

Devanshu

On 7/16/14, Hajas Dániel <haj...@fr...> wrote:
> Hi both,
> I think as well that everything is fine with the installation. The 
> steps are perfect, everything was registered and scripts are in place.
> So if I understand correctly, in verbal mode when you move the cursor 
> up and down JAWS does not read anything, or just blank lines. If so... 
> this happens to me occasionally. Try restarting JAWS (sometimes even 
> more than once) or the key stroke suggested.
> Let us know how it worked.
> Bests,
> Dan
>
> Az iPhone készülékemről küldve/Sent from my iPhone.
>
> 2014.07.16. dátummal, 8:10 időpontban Alastair Irving 
> <ala...@sj...> írta:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> It sounds like you've done everything you need, so I'm not  sure why 
>> its not working.  When in notepad, try pressing ctrl+alt+shift+r 
>> which will reload the connection of Jaws to latex-access.  Once 
>> you've done that press ctrl+m until processing is turned on.  Try 
>> this a couple of times as it sometimes helps.
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16/07/2014 04:30, Devanshu Agrawal wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for your help. I followed your instructions, but I 
>>> cannot get Latex-Access to work perfectly. Let me tell you exactly 
>>> what I did with all the details.
>>>
>>> I already had Python 2.7.5 installed through the Anaconda package.
>>> Following the link in the Latex-Access manual, I installed the 
>>> appropriate pywin32 package. According to the post-installation text 
>>> file, pywin32 was successfully installed. But is there any other way 
>>> to really make sure pywin32 is installed in the right place?
>>>
>>> I installed Tortoise svm. At first, I was not sure how to use it. So 
>>> I just opened Tortoise svm and entered the URL you gave me:
>>>
>>> https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access
>>>
>>> I could see all the folders in the repository. But since I was not 
>>> sure what to do, I closed it out. I then googled about Tortoise svm 
>>> and learned how to use it. This is what I did: I created the
>>> directory:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\owner\latexaccess
>>>
>>> I right-clicked on the "latexaccess" folder I created, and I 
>>> selected "svm check out." This time, there was already a list of 
>>> URLs available for me to choose. I chose the URL:
>>>
>>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/latex_access
>>>
>>> Doing this, my "latexaccess" folder filled up with about 20 or so 
>>> files. Please note that no zipped folders were involved. Does this 
>>> mean I did something wrong?
>>>
>>> In a similar way, I went to the directory:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Freedom 
>>> Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu
>>>
>>> (note the term "Roaming"). I right-clicked on this folder, selected 
>>> "svn check out," and chose the URL:
>>>
>>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/jaws
>>>
>>>  I noticed that all the transferred files from this URL were of the 
>>> form latex.j**, except ReadMe.txt.
>>>
>>> I then opened the command prompt. The prompt was initially:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\owner >>
>>>
>>> I then typed the following lines:
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] latex access help

[Devanshu A. <agr...@go...>]

Hi,

I restarted JAWS, and I performed the keystroke ctrl + shift + alt + r.

And it worked! It's reading the math verbally! This is really exciting!

Thank you so much! I am very happy!

I will keep in touch. Later on, I might have other questions (e.g.,
can you adjust the rate at which JAWS reads the math without affecting
the rate at which normal text is read?) I'll contact you guys whenever
I need help.

Again, thank you!

Devanshu

On 7/16/14, Hajas Dániel <haj...@fr...> wrote:
> Hi both,
> I think as well that everything is fine with the installation. The steps are
> perfect, everything was registered and scripts are in place.
> So if I understand correctly, in verbal mode when you move the cursor up and
> down JAWS does not read anything, or just blank lines. If so... this happens
> to me occasionally. Try restarting JAWS (sometimes even more than once) or
> the key stroke suggested.
> Let us know how it worked.
> Bests,
> Dan
>
> Az iPhone készülékemről küldve/Sent from my iPhone.
>
> 2014.07.16. dátummal, 8:10 időpontban Alastair Irving
> <ala...@sj...> írta:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> It sounds like you've done everything you need, so I'm not  sure why its
>> not working.  When in notepad, try pressing ctrl+alt+shift+r which will
>> reload the connection of Jaws to latex-access.  Once you've done that
>> press ctrl+m until processing is turned on.  Try this a couple of times
>> as it sometimes helps.
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16/07/2014 04:30, Devanshu Agrawal wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for your help. I followed your instructions, but I
>>> cannot get Latex-Access to work perfectly. Let me tell you exactly
>>> what I did with all the details.
>>>
>>> I already had Python 2.7.5 installed through the Anaconda package.
>>> Following the link in the Latex-Access manual, I installed the
>>> appropriate pywin32 package. According to the post-installation text
>>> file, pywin32 was successfully installed. But is there any other way
>>> to really make sure pywin32 is installed in the right place?
>>>
>>> I installed Tortoise svm. At first, I was not sure how to use it. So I
>>> just opened Tortoise svm and entered the URL you gave me:
>>>
>>> https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access
>>>
>>> I could see all the folders in the repository. But since I was not
>>> sure what to do, I closed it out. I then googled about Tortoise svm
>>> and learned how to use it. This is what I did: I created the
>>> directory:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\owner\latexaccess
>>>
>>> I right-clicked on the "latexaccess" folder I created, and I selected
>>> "svm check out." This time, there was already a list of URLs available
>>> for me to choose. I chose the URL:
>>>
>>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/latex_access
>>>
>>> Doing this, my "latexaccess" folder filled up with about 20 or so
>>> files. Please note that no zipped folders were involved. Does this
>>> mean I did something wrong?
>>>
>>> In a similar way, I went to the directory:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu
>>>
>>> (note the term "Roaming"). I right-clicked on this folder, selected
>>> "svn check out," and chose the URL:
>>>
>>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/jaws
>>>
>>>  I noticed that all the transferred files from this URL were of the
>>> form latex.j**, except ReadMe.txt.
>>>
>>> I then opened the command prompt. The prompt was initially:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\owner >>
>>>
>>> I then typed the following lines:
>
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Re: [Latex-access-devel] few questions

[Daniel D. <dan...@gm...>]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 01:40:42PM +0100, Alastair Irving wrote:
> > 1.I’ve encountered the latex_record.py script and really like the idea,
> > but could not figure out how does that actually work. Can you help with
> > that? How could I generate an audio file from a tex source using the script?
> 
> Its a very experimental piece of code written by Daniel Dalton.  I think 
> its only been tested on Linux but it should work on windows if setup 
> properly.  You will need to install espeak and have its main executable 
> in your path.  You can then try calling the latex_record.py with the 
> path to your file as an argument.  (I haven't tried it though so I might 
> be wrong).

Definitely runs on Linux and should run on windows I'd imagine if espeak
is in your path. 
The script has usage information. 

It is fairly basic, so probably isn't that useful eg. espeak options are
hard coded in the script and output is saved in a .wav format. 

Just tested now and it works ok, but don't expect anything special. 

I'm no longer actively developing latex-access so this recording stuff is up for someone
else to take over if they like the idea. 

> 
> >
> > 2.continuous reading and matrix processor: Would it be possible that
> > when using the continuous reading function of JAWS (insert down) that we
> > still get the translation in the more verbal form rather than just the
> > code itself?
> I think this is very difficult, probably impossible.  The say-all 
> function is built into Jaws so I don't think it would be possible to 
> modify it to call the translator.

Not a jaws expert, but why not remap the binding to your own sayAll and
handle it ourselves? 

Re: [Latex-access-devel] latex access help

[Hajas D. <haj...@fr...>]

Hi both,
I think as well that everything is fine with the installation. The steps are perfect, everything was registered and scripts are in place.
So if I understand correctly, in verbal mode when you move the cursor up and down JAWS does not read anything, or just blank lines. If so... this happens to me occasionally. Try restarting JAWS (sometimes even more than once) or the key stroke suggested.
Let us know how it worked.
Bests,
Dan

Az iPhone készülékemről küldve/Sent from my iPhone. 

2014.07.16. dátummal, 8:10 időpontban Alastair Irving <ala...@sj...> írta:

> Hi
> 
> It sounds like you've done everything you need, so I'm not  sure why its 
> not working.  When in notepad, try pressing ctrl+alt+shift+r which will 
> reload the connection of Jaws to latex-access.  Once you've done that 
> press ctrl+m until processing is turned on.  Try this a couple of times 
> as it sometimes helps.
> 
> Alastair
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/07/2014 04:30, Devanshu Agrawal wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for your help. I followed your instructions, but I
>> cannot get Latex-Access to work perfectly. Let me tell you exactly
>> what I did with all the details.
>> 
>> I already had Python 2.7.5 installed through the Anaconda package.
>> Following the link in the Latex-Access manual, I installed the
>> appropriate pywin32 package. According to the post-installation text
>> file, pywin32 was successfully installed. But is there any other way
>> to really make sure pywin32 is installed in the right place?
>> 
>> I installed Tortoise svm. At first, I was not sure how to use it. So I
>> just opened Tortoise svm and entered the URL you gave me:
>> 
>> https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access
>> 
>> I could see all the folders in the repository. But since I was not
>> sure what to do, I closed it out. I then googled about Tortoise svm
>> and learned how to use it. This is what I did: I created the
>> directory:
>> 
>> C:\Users\owner\latexaccess
>> 
>> I right-clicked on the "latexaccess" folder I created, and I selected
>> "svm check out." This time, there was already a list of URLs available
>> for me to choose. I chose the URL:
>> 
>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/latex_access
>> 
>> Doing this, my "latexaccess" folder filled up with about 20 or so
>> files. Please note that no zipped folders were involved. Does this
>> mean I did something wrong?
>> 
>> In a similar way, I went to the directory:
>> 
>> C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu
>> 
>> (note the term "Roaming"). I right-clicked on this folder, selected
>> "svn check out," and chose the URL:
>> 
>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/jaws
>> 
>>  I noticed that all the transferred files from this URL were of the
>> form latex.j**, except ReadMe.txt.
>> 
>> I then opened the command prompt. The prompt was initially:
>> 
>> C:\Users\owner >>
>> 
>> I then typed the following lines:

Re: [Latex-access-devel] latex access help

[Alastair I. <ala...@sj...>]

Hi

It sounds like you've done everything you need, so I'm not  sure why its 
not working.  When in notepad, try pressing ctrl+alt+shift+r which will 
reload the connection of Jaws to latex-access.  Once you've done that 
press ctrl+m until processing is turned on.  Try this a couple of times 
as it sometimes helps.

Alastair



On 16/07/2014 04:30, Devanshu Agrawal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks so much for your help. I followed your instructions, but I
> cannot get Latex-Access to work perfectly. Let me tell you exactly
> what I did with all the details.
>
> I already had Python 2.7.5 installed through the Anaconda package.
> Following the link in the Latex-Access manual, I installed the
> appropriate pywin32 package. According to the post-installation text
> file, pywin32 was successfully installed. But is there any other way
> to really make sure pywin32 is installed in the right place?
>
> I installed Tortoise svm. At first, I was not sure how to use it. So I
> just opened Tortoise svm and entered the URL you gave me:
>
> https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access
>
> I could see all the folders in the repository. But since I was not
> sure what to do, I closed it out. I then googled about Tortoise svm
> and learned how to use it. This is what I did: I created the
> directory:
>
> C:\Users\owner\latexaccess
>
> I right-clicked on the "latexaccess" folder I created, and I selected
> "svm check out." This time, there was already a list of URLs available
> for me to choose. I chose the URL:
>
> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/latex_access
>
> Doing this, my "latexaccess" folder filled up with about 20 or so
> files. Please note that no zipped folders were involved. Does this
> mean I did something wrong?
>
> In a similar way, I went to the directory:
>
> C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu
>
> (note the term "Roaming"). I right-clicked on this folder, selected
> "svn check out," and chose the URL:
>
> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/jaws
>
>   I noticed that all the transferred files from this URL were of the
> form latex.j**, except ReadMe.txt.
>
> I then opened the command prompt. The prompt was initially:
>
> C:\Users\owner >>
>
> I then typed the following lines:
>
> cd latexaccess
> python latex_access_com.py
>
> When I typed the second line, I received a "User account control"
> message asking for permission for something. I said "yes." I then
> typed:
>
> python matrix_processor.py
>
> Again, I received the same "User account control" message, and again I
> said "yes." I then used the JAWS cursor to go back up and read the
> output of my commands. I saw the output lines:
>
> registered: latex_access_com.py
> registered: matrix_processor.py
>
> I closed the command prompt. For the last step, I found the file
> ConfigNames.ini in the directory
>
> C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu
>
> Note this directory is different from the one containing the latex.j**
> scripts. I opened ConfigNames.ini in notepad and added the line
> "notepad=latex" after "[confignames]." I tried to save the file but it
> would not let me override the original ConfigNames.ini file, saying
> "Access is denied." To get around this, I right-clicked on notepad in
> the start menu and selected "run as administrator." I was then able to
> add the line "notepad=latex" to the file and was able to save it.
>
> I believe the above were all the steps required to set up
> latex-access. So then I opened notepad and typed the following example
> code:
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{amsmath}
> \begin{document}
>
> Consider the equation
> \[ y = \sqrt{x}. \]
>
> \end{document}
>
> I saved this code as a .tex file. I then hit ctrl + m. JAWS then
> announced "maths to be processed to a more verbal mode." In this mode,
> however, JAWS did not read the math. Moving line by line, JAWS
> announced the blank lines as usual but said nothing on lines
> containing any kind of text. Moving letter by letter or word by word,
> JAWS read the code as plain text. Hitting ctrl + m again, JAWS
> announced "maths to be read as plain latex." In this plain mode,
> everything works as usual.
>
> I do not know why JAWS is not reading the math in verbal mode. Either
> I made a mistake in the above steps, or I am just using latex-access
> incorrectly in notepad. Please let me know what you think the problem
> could be.
>
> Again, thanks in advance!
>
> Devanshu
>
> On 7/15/14, Dániel Hajas <haj...@fr...> wrote:
>> Hi Devanshu,
>>
>>
>>
>> You will get better answers from the guys (especially regarding Edsharp)
>> but
>> may be this might help until then.
>>
>> So can't help you with the editor you were trying but here are tipps on
>> your
>> other questions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.     How do I transfer copies of the necessary scripts onto my laptop?
>>
>> The project is hosted at a svn server. Clicking ont he link below you
>> should
>> be able to pull down the latest  release with a svn client.
>>
>> https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access.
>>
>> This should be a zipped folder. You will fin dall the necessary files in
>> it.
>>
>> 2.     How do I install these scripts on my laptop?
>>
>> Briefly:
>>
>> a)      Make a folder in a directory according to your liking, such as
>> c:\latexaccess
>>
>> b)      then copy the context of the unzipped folder into the newly created
>> folder.
>>
>> c)      at the beginning you should be concerned with only two subfolders
>> i.e. JAWS and latex_access.
>>
>> d)      Open JAWS folder and copy the JAWS scripts into your JAWS shared or
>> personal folder, where all your personal or default scripts are. Are you
>> familiar with this?
>>
>> e)      after that open command line and change directory to the place
>> where
>> your latex_access subfolder is e.g. c:\program
>> files\latexaccess\latex_access.
>>
>> f)        hit enter to open it and register two files. one is the
>> latex_access_com.py file and the other is matrix_processor.py file.By
>> registering I mean run the python files.
>>
>> g)      a last thing: choose an editor you want to use for latex editing
>> tasks. Say notepad for simplicity. Go to your JAWS shared or personal
>> folder, wherever you put the latex jaws scripts and open a file called
>> confignames.ini. Here you need to define in the block [confignames] section
>> the editor you want to use with latex e.g. notepad=latex or winedt=latex.
>>
>>
>>
>> That should be it roughly.Obviously, you need to have a python 2.x version
>> installed and also an extra python add-on.
>>
>> 3.     Once installed and ready to go, how do I actually use LaTeX-Access?
>>
>> Open the editor you have chosen. Using ctrl M you can toggle between verbal
>> mode and plane latex code mode. Also you can use all other features and
>> hotkeys defined within the JAWS scripts. toggle dollar signs, reading the
>> parts of a matrix etc.
>>
>>              4. Are there step-by-step instructions available to help with
>> the above?
>>
>>   I know my description is not very detailed, so here is the link I learnt
>> from:
>>
>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/docs/manual-latex-access.txt
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course if need any further help with JAWS scripts, registering the com
>> objects or have further questions, feel free to ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Latex-access-devel] latex access help

[Devanshu A. <agr...@go...>]

Hi,

Thanks so much for your help. I followed your instructions, but I
cannot get Latex-Access to work perfectly. Let me tell you exactly
what I did with all the details.

I already had Python 2.7.5 installed through the Anaconda package.
Following the link in the Latex-Access manual, I installed the
appropriate pywin32 package. According to the post-installation text
file, pywin32 was successfully installed. But is there any other way
to really make sure pywin32 is installed in the right place?

I installed Tortoise svm. At first, I was not sure how to use it. So I
just opened Tortoise svm and entered the URL you gave me:

https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access

I could see all the folders in the repository. But since I was not
sure what to do, I closed it out. I then googled about Tortoise svm
and learned how to use it. This is what I did: I created the
directory:

C:\Users\owner\latexaccess

I right-clicked on the "latexaccess" folder I created, and I selected
"svm check out." This time, there was already a list of URLs available
for me to choose. I chose the URL:

https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/latex_access

Doing this, my "latexaccess" folder filled up with about 20 or so
files. Please note that no zipped folders were involved. Does this
mean I did something wrong?

In a similar way, I went to the directory:

C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu

(note the term "Roaming"). I right-clicked on this folder, selected
"svn check out," and chose the URL:

https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/jaws

 I noticed that all the transferred files from this URL were of the
form latex.j**, except ReadMe.txt.

I then opened the command prompt. The prompt was initially:

C:\Users\owner >>

I then typed the following lines:

cd latexaccess
python latex_access_com.py

When I typed the second line, I received a "User account control"
message asking for permission for something. I said "yes." I then
typed:

python matrix_processor.py

Again, I received the same "User account control" message, and again I
said "yes." I then used the JAWS cursor to go back up and read the
output of my commands. I saw the output lines:

registered: latex_access_com.py
registered: matrix_processor.py

I closed the command prompt. For the last step, I found the file
ConfigNames.ini in the directory

C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu

Note this directory is different from the one containing the latex.j**
scripts. I opened ConfigNames.ini in notepad and added the line
"notepad=latex" after "[confignames]." I tried to save the file but it
would not let me override the original ConfigNames.ini file, saying
"Access is denied." To get around this, I right-clicked on notepad in
the start menu and selected "run as administrator." I was then able to
add the line "notepad=latex" to the file and was able to save it.

I believe the above were all the steps required to set up
latex-access. So then I opened notepad and typed the following example
code:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\begin{document}

Consider the equation
\[ y = \sqrt{x}. \]

\end{document}

I saved this code as a .tex file. I then hit ctrl + m. JAWS then
announced "maths to be processed to a more verbal mode." In this mode,
however, JAWS did not read the math. Moving line by line, JAWS
announced the blank lines as usual but said nothing on lines
containing any kind of text. Moving letter by letter or word by word,
JAWS read the code as plain text. Hitting ctrl + m again, JAWS
announced "maths to be read as plain latex." In this plain mode,
everything works as usual.

I do not know why JAWS is not reading the math in verbal mode. Either
I made a mistake in the above steps, or I am just using latex-access
incorrectly in notepad. Please let me know what you think the problem
could be.

Again, thanks in advance!

Devanshu

On 7/15/14, Dániel Hajas <haj...@fr...> wrote:
> Hi Devanshu,
>
>
>
> You will get better answers from the guys (especially regarding Edsharp)
> but
> may be this might help until then.
>
> So can't help you with the editor you were trying but here are tipps on
> your
> other questions:
>
>
>
> 1.     How do I transfer copies of the necessary scripts onto my laptop?
>
> The project is hosted at a svn server. Clicking ont he link below you
> should
> be able to pull down the latest  release with a svn client.
>
> https://latex-access.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/latex-access.
>
> This should be a zipped folder. You will fin dall the necessary files in
> it.
>
> 2.     How do I install these scripts on my laptop?
>
> Briefly:
>
> a)      Make a folder in a directory according to your liking, such as
> c:\latexaccess
>
> b)      then copy the context of the unzipped folder into the newly created
> folder.
>
> c)      at the beginning you should be concerned with only two subfolders
> i.e. JAWS and latex_access.
>
> d)      Open JAWS folder and copy the JAWS scripts into your JAWS shared or
> personal folder, where all your personal or default scripts are. Are you
> familiar with this?
>
> e)      after that open command line and change directory to the place
> where
> your latex_access subfolder is e.g. c:\program
> files\latexaccess\latex_access.
>
> f)        hit enter to open it and register two files. one is the
> latex_access_com.py file and the other is matrix_processor.py file.By
> registering I mean run the python files.
>
> g)      a last thing: choose an editor you want to use for latex editing
> tasks. Say notepad for simplicity. Go to your JAWS shared or personal
> folder, wherever you put the latex jaws scripts and open a file called
> confignames.ini. Here you need to define in the block [confignames] section
> the editor you want to use with latex e.g. notepad=latex or winedt=latex.
>
>
>
> That should be it roughly.Obviously, you need to have a python 2.x version
> installed and also an extra python add-on.
>
> 3.     Once installed and ready to go, how do I actually use LaTeX-Access?
>
> Open the editor you have chosen. Using ctrl M you can toggle between verbal
> mode and plane latex code mode. Also you can use all other features and
> hotkeys defined within the JAWS scripts. toggle dollar signs, reading the
> parts of a matrix etc.
>
>             4. Are there step-by-step instructions available to help with
> the above?
>
>  I know my description is not very detailed, so here is the link I learnt
> from:
>
> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/latex-access/code/docs/manual-latex-access.txt
>
>
>
> Of course if need any further help with JAWS scripts, registering the com
> objects or have further questions, feel free to ask.
>
>
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Dan
>
>


-- 
Devanshu