From: Ingo M. <mi...@el...> - 2007-10-30 07:19:39
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* Ian Pratt <Ian...@cl...> wrote: > > > Sigh, I don't really want to have this fight again. > > > > i dont remember us having discussed this before, ever. If there's any > > "fight" about monotonicity and SMP then it would be a pretty onesided > > affair, with you being beaten up seriously ;-) > > Actually, it is possible, even for NUMA systems with CPUs running off > completely different oscillators, and in the presence of CPU frequency > changes, power management, and even in the presence of thermal > throttling (though the latter introduces temporary inaccuracies it > doesn't affect monotonicity or rate). > > Take a look at the Xen code to see how each physical CPU is > independently calibrated on an ongoing basis, how movement of VCPUs > between physical CPUs is tracked, and how shared variables are used to > ensure montonicity if a guest requires it. I think that's wishful thinking. Check out: http://people.redhat.com/mingo/time-warp-test/time-warp-test.c change TEST_TSC to 0, run it on an SMP guest (on a reasonably fast machine) and let me know whether you can make SMP guests not come up with monotonicity violations in the CLOCK tests. Ingo |