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[Knobot-devel] scripting documentation

[muriel <mu...@me...>]

dear knobot-developers,

I wanted to try out the knobot scripting tool (which I believe is a
great addition to knobot, so thanks for developing it!), but I have some
difficulties to find my way through the code. is there any documentation
available? or could some one help with a few quick-start tricks? how,
for example, do I start  the scripting tool? in my case the unit tests
in org.wymiwyg.wrhapi.jetty.test fail. and, once started, where can I
place the jython/groovy scripts or probably rather: where can I define
where the scripts can be found?

any help is really appreciated!

muriel




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Re: [Knobot-devel] Can't start knobot: scripting related exception

[<re...@gm...>]

the problem was the arq.jar, I just removed this classpath entry.

I found that KnoBot wasn't running after building it with ant, I added

<fileset dir=3D"scripting/lib" includes=3D"**/*.jar"/>

to rwcf-tools/build.xml. testing now, committing after.

We were having to different bsf.jar, one in wymiwyg-commons/lib-endorsed
and the other in the rwcf-tools/scripting. The one in lib-endorsed came
with xalan-j and is needed to write xslt extensions in a language other
than java, my guess is that nobody is doing this so I'll remove it (if
somebody cries we'll have to move bsf.jar from scripting to the
lib-endorsed).

Reto Bachmann-Gm=C3=BCr wrote:
> It seems that it is now referencing files in the build-directory. The
> eclipse targets should be independent of the build directories, the
> build-dirs are for ant only and one should be able to checkout out
> knobot in eclipse and run it right away without ever having to run the
> ant-script.
>
> I'll try to fix this.
>
> reto
>
> Danny Ayers wrote:
>  =20
>> On 10/10/06, Reto Bachmann-Gm=C3=BCr <re...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>  =20
>>    =20
>>> I assume you either forgot to commit
>>> http://knobot.cvs.sourceforge.net/knobot/knobot/KnoBot.launch
>>>    =20
>>>      =20
>> No doubt. I'll check & commit in a minute.
>>
>>
>>  =20
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Re: [Knobot-devel] Can't start knobot: scripting related exception

[<re...@gm...>]

It seems that it is now referencing files in the build-directory. The
eclipse targets should be independent of the build directories, the
build-dirs are for ant only and one should be able to checkout out
knobot in eclipse and run it right away without ever having to run the
ant-script.

I'll try to fix this.

reto

Danny Ayers wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Reto Bachmann-Gm=C3=BCr <re...@gm...> wrote:
>
>  =20
>> I assume you either forgot to commit
>> http://knobot.cvs.sourceforge.net/knobot/knobot/KnoBot.launch
>>    =20
>
> No doubt. I'll check & commit in a minute.
>
>
>  =20

Re: [Knobot-devel] Can't start knobot: scripting related exception

[Danny A. <dan...@gm...>]

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[Knobot-devel] Can't start knobot: scripting related exception

[<re...@gm...>]

hi danny,

trying to start KnoBot with the default eclipse target I get the
following exception:

Exception in thread "Thread-2" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/bsf/BSFException
    at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
    at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:164)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerDescriptor.prepareHandler(HandlerDescriptor.=
java:269)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerDescriptor.<init>(HandlerDescriptor.java:123=
)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.TypeChainFilter.getHandlerDescriptors(TypeChainFilt=
er.java:125)
    at org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.TypeChainFilter.init(TypeChainFilter.java:34=
7)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerDescriptor.prepareHandler(HandlerDescriptor.=
java:277)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerDescriptor.<init>(HandlerDescriptor.java:123=
)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerContextImpl.getHandlerDescriptors(HandlerCon=
textImpl.java:176)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerContextImpl.<init>(HandlerContextImpl.java:1=
62)
    at org.wymiwyg.rwcf.j2ee.impl.ModelerFilter.init(ModelerFilter.java:1=
26)
    at org.wymiwyg.rwcf.j2ee.impl.FilterHolder.<init>(FilterHolder.java:1=
02)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.j2ee.impl.RDFFilterInvoker.getFilterSeq(RDFFilterInvoker=
=2Ejava:339)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.j2ee.impl.RDFFilterInvoker.access$1(RDFFilterInvoker.jav=
a:329)
    at
org.wymiwyg.rwcf.j2ee.impl.RDFFilterInvoker$InitThread.run(RDFFilterInvok=
er.java:158)

I assume you either forgot to commit
http://knobot.cvs.sourceforge.net/knobot/knobot/KnoBot.launch or you are
using another eclipse-start target and didn't put the changes to the
main-launch file.

reto

Re: [Knobot-devel] [Knobot-cvs] fckeditor vs tinymce

[<re...@gm...>]

muriel bowie wrote:
> dear list,
>
> I am not sure if this is the right place to discuss these matters, but =

> I've seen that the knobot developer's list (knobot-devel) hasn't been=20
> very active lately.
>  =20
just seeing now that this thread was on knobot-cvs. I don't think that's
the right place. I think it is best to have KnoBot-cvs just for
cvs-commit-infos, usually this lists requieres and expects less
attention than the other one.

If you didn't already, please subscribe to knobot-devel.

Of cource it would be nicer to have a KnoBot-Forum for the discussions,
a missing peace is email-notification when an article gets added to a top=
ic.

reto

Re: [Knobot-devel] testing

[Reto Bachmann-G. <re...@gm...>]

actually they do!
Am Dienstag, den 14.06.2005, 18:30 +0200 schrieb Reto Bachmann-Gmuer:
> mails send from KnoBot do not show up on the list. Is ist because they
> are html only? without plain-text version?

[Knobot-devel] testing

[Reto Bachmann-G. <re...@gm...>]

mails send from KnoBot do not show up on the list. Is ist because they
are html only? without plain-text version?

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[Knobot-devel] Re: mod_link: feature request

[Reto Bachmann-G. <re...@gm...>]

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>> 1) i think the link should also be a Resource (Link) rather than just 
>> a predicate, at least the property l:type is not a properties of the 
>> linked resource but of the link itself .
>
> l:type is going to go away in favor of real RDF...
>
> <l:permalink>
>
>> 2) i think it would be great to have something like l:links which 
>> contains channel related links in an ordered fashion.
>> here an example:
>
> you can have an rdf:ID and an rdf:resource on the same element..   or 
> maybe it is rdf:about... I forget.
>
> Anyway... You can put channel level links.
>
Using rdf:type for the link type is certainly a good idea and solves 
the problem for the type. however i think that title is also a property 
of the link rather than of the linked page. content-type and language 
are in fact properties of the page but why should they be defined in 
mod_link?

I think using rdf:ID on the property and thus reifing the corresponding 
statement is indeed a good design alternative to having a resource 
"Link" as i proposed. l:title should then have "Statement" as domain.

I know you can put channel level-links, however I think it is useful 
when the links can (optionally) be put in a certain order. you cannot 
do this at the moment so I'd like to have a property "links" with 
domain rss:channel and range rdf:sequence (of reified linking 
statements).

Reto

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[Knobot-devel] Re: mod_link: feature request

[Kevin A. B. <bu...@ne...>]

Reto Bachmann-Gmuer wrote:

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> hi kevin,
>
> I'd like to propose two enhancements for mod_link
>
> 1) i think the link should also be a Resource (Link) rather than just 
> a predicate, at least the property l:type is not a properties of the 
> linked resource but of the link itself . 

l:type is going to go away in favor of real RDF...

<l:permalink>

> 2) i think it would be great to have something like l:links which 
> contains channel related links in an ordered fashion.
> here an example: 

you can have an rdf:ID and an rdf:resource on the same element..   or 
maybe it is rdf:about... I forget.

Anyway... You can put channel level links.

Kevin

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[Knobot-devel] mod_link: feature request

[Reto Bachmann-G. <re...@gm...>]

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hi kevin,

I'd like to propose two enhancements for mod_link

1) i think the link should also be a Resource (Link) rather than just a 
predicate, at least the property l:type is not a properties of the 
linked resource but of the link itself .
2) i think it would be great to have something like l:links which 
contains channel related links in an ordered fashion.

here an example:

<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
          xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
          xmlns:l="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/link/"
          xmlns="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/">

<channel rdf:about="http://example.org/rss.rdf">
         <title>Example Feed</title>
         <link>http://www.example.org</link>
         <description>Simply for the purpose of 
demonstration.</description>

         <items>
             <rdf:Seq>
                 <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://example.org/item/"/>
             </rdf:Seq>
         </items>
         <l:links>
	   <rdf:Seq>
		<rdf:li rdf:resource="#linux"/>
		<rdf:li rdf:resource="#freebsd"/>
	   </rdf:Seq>
          </l:links>
</channel>

             <l:Link rdf:ID="linux"  
l:rel="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/link/#topic"
                 l:type="application/rss+xml"
                 l:title="Linux"
                 l:lang="en">
                 <l:target  
rdf:resource="http://www.peerfear.org/rss/index-linux.rss"/>
	   </l:Link>
	
	
	   <l:Link rdf:ID="freebsd" 
l:rel="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/link/#topic"
                 l:type="application/rss+xml"
                 l:title="Linux"
                 l:lang="en">
                 <l:target  
rdf:resource="http://www.peerfear.org/rss/index-freebsd.rss"/>
              </l:Link>

</rdf:RDF>

curios on what you think.

reto

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